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RfC for moving Hors d'oeuvre > Appetizer which may be of interest to this project. Valereee (talk) 16:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Daily Dozen Doughnut Company

Daily Dozen Doughnut Company is at AfD. Discussion participation welcome. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Minneapolis has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. SusanLesch (talk) 15:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tag at Owamni

Would other editors care to weigh in at Talk:Owamni regarding the notability tag? ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:53, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Howl at the Moon (piano bar)#Requested move 22 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 00:14, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Taco rosa

Mexican restaurant near Newport Beach 2600:8802:4507:B4E0:59D6:EE35:8E7:7485 (talk) 22:02, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proposed split of Apium graveolens and celery

Please see Talk:Celery#Split proposal (again) for a proposed split. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Input requested

There is a discussion in the thread Talk:Turkish coffee#Revert. Your input is welcome. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wong's King

While another editor insists on tagging the article, I'm actually interested in promoting Wong's King to Good article status. I've fleshed out the article, but there's one area where I'm slightly confused and that's about the restaurant chain's establishment. As noted here, I'm not sure how the chain was founded in 2004 but a source says the Estacada location opened in 1998.

Would anyone care to join me in finalizing this entry and co-nominating for Good article status? I've done the heavy lifting, I just need a bit of help with the early history. Please hit me up if you are interested. @ and SounderBruce: Pinging for your consideration, based on your work on restaurant entries. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unreviewed Featured articles year-end summary

Restoring older Featured articles to standard:
year-end 2022 summary

Unreviewed featured articles/2020 (URFA/2020) is a systematic approach to reviewing older Featured articles (FAs) to ensure they still meet the FA standards. A January 2022 Signpost article called "Forgotten Featured" explored the effort.

Progress is recorded at the monthly stats page. Through 2022, with 4,526 very old (from the 2004–2009 period) and old (2010–2015) FAs initially needing review:

  • 357 FAs were delisted at Featured article review (FAR).
  • 222 FAs were kept at FAR or deemed "satisfactory" by three URFA reviewers, with hundreds more being marked as "satisfactory", but awaiting three reviews.
  • FAs needing review were reduced from 77% of total FAs at the end of 2020 to 64% at the end of 2022.

Of the FAs kept, deemed satisfactory by three reviewers, or delisted, about 60% had prior review between 2004 and 2007; another 20% dated to the period from 2008–2009; and another 20% to 2010–2015. Roughly two-thirds of the old FAs reviewed have retained FA status or been marked "satisfactory", while two-thirds of the very old FAs have been defeatured.

Entering its third year, URFA is working to help maintain FA standards; FAs are being restored not only via FAR, but also via improvements initiated after articles are reviewed and talk pages are noticed. Since the Featured Article Save Award (FASA) was added to the FAR process a year ago, 38 FAs were restored to FA status by editors other than the original FAC nominator. Ten FAs restored to status have been listed at WP:MILLION, recognizing articles with annual readership over a million pageviews, and many have been rerun as Today's featured article, helping increase mainpage diversity.

Examples of 2022 "FAR saves" of very old featured articles
All received a Million Award

But there remain almost 4,000 old and very old FAs to be reviewed. Some topic areas and WikiProjects have been more proactive than others in restoring or maintaining their old FAs. As seen in the chart below, the following have very high ratios of FAs kept to those delisted (ordered from highest ratio):

  • Biology
  • Physics and astronomy
  • Warfare
  • Video gaming

and others have a good ratio of kept to delisted FAs:

  • Literature and theatre
  • Engineering and technology
  • Religion, mysticism and mythology
  • Media
  • Geology and geophysics

... so kudos to those editors who pitched in to help maintain older FAs !

FAs reviewed at URFA/2020 through 2022 by content area
FAs reviewed at URFA/2020 from November 21, 2020 to December 31, 2022 (VO, O)
Topic area Delisted Kept Total
Reviewed
Ratio
Kept to
Delisted
(overall 0.62)
Remaining to review
for
2004–7 promotions
Art, architecture and archaeology 10 6 16 0.60 19
Biology 13 41 54 3.15 67
Business, economics and finance 6 1 7 0.17 2
Chemistry and mineralogy 2 1 3 0.50 7
Computing 4 1 5 0.25 0
Culture and society 9 1 10 0.11 8
Education 22 1 23 0.05 3
Engineering and technology 3 3 6 1.00 5
Food and drink 2 0 2 0.00 3
Geography and places 40 6 46 0.15 22
Geology and geophysics 3 2 5 0.67 1
Health and medicine 8 3 11 0.38 5
Heraldry, honors, and vexillology 11 1 12 0.09 6
History 27 14 41 0.52 38
Language and linguistics 3 0 3 0.00 3
Law 11 1 12 0.09 3
Literature and theatre 13 14 27 1.08 24
Mathematics 1 2 3 2.00 3
Media 14 10 24 0.71 40
Meteorology 15 6 21 0.40 31
Music 27 8 35 0.30 55
Philosophy and psychology 0 1 1 2
Physics and astronomy 3 7 10 2.33 24
Politics and government 19 4 23 0.21 9
Religion, mysticism and mythology 14 14 28 1.00 8
Royalty and nobility 10 6 16 0.60 44
Sport and recreation 32 12 44 0.38 39
Transport 8 2 10 0.25 11
Video gaming 3 5 8 1.67 23
Warfare 26 49 75 1.88 31
Total 359 Note A 222 Note B 581 0.62 536

Noting some minor differences in tallies:

  • A URFA/2020 archives show 357, which does not include those delisted which were featured after 2015; FAR archives show 358, so tally is off by at least one, not worth looking for.
  • B FAR archives show 63 kept at FAR since URFA started at end of Nov 2020. URFA/2020 shows 61 Kept at FAR, meaning two kept were outside of scope of URFA/2020. Total URFA/2020 Keeps (Kept at FAR plus those with three Satisfactory marks) is 150 + 72 = 222.

But looking only at the oldest FAs (from the 2004–2007 period), there are 12 content areas with more than 20 FAs still needing review: Biology, Music, Royalty and nobility, Media, Sport and recreation, History, Warfare, Meteorology, Physics and astronomy, Literature and theatre, Video gaming, and Geography and places. In the coming weeks, URFA/2020 editors will be posting lists to individual WikiProjects with the goal of getting these oldest-of-the-old FAs reviewed during 2023.

Ideas for how you can help are listed below and at the Signpost article.

  • Review a 2004 to 2007 FA. With three "Satisfactory" marks, article can be moved to the FAR not needed section.
  • Review "your" articles: Did you nominate a featured article between 2004 and 2015 that you have continuously maintained? Check these articles, update as needed, and mark them as 'Satisfactory' at URFA/2020. A continuously maintained FA is a good predictor that standards are still met, and with two more "Satisfactory" marks, "your" articles can be listed as "FAR not needed". If they no longer meet the FA standards, please begin the FAR process by posting your concerns on the article's talk page.
  • Review articles that already have one "Satisfactory" mark: more FAs can be indicated as "FAR not needed" if other reviewers will have a look at those already indicated as maintained by the original nominator. If you find issues, you can enter them at the talk page.
  • Fix an existing featured article: Choose an article at URFA/2020 or FAR and bring it back to FA standards. Enlist the help of the original nominator, frequent FA reviewers, WikiProjects listed on the talk page, or editors that have written similar topics. When the article returns to FA standards, please mark it as 'Satisfactory' at URFA/2020 or note your progress in the article's FAR.
  • Review and nominate an article to FAR that has been 'noticed' of a FAR needed but issues raised on talk have not been addressed. Sometimes nominating at FAR draws additional editors to help improve the article that would otherwise not look at it.

More regular URFA and FAR reviewers will help assure that FAs continue to represent examples of Wikipedia's best work. If you have any questions or feedback, please visit Wikipedia talk:Unreviewed featured articles/2020/4Q2022.

FAs last reviewed from 2004 to 2007 of interest to this WikiProject

If you review an article on this list, please add commentary at the article talk page, with a section heading == [[URFA/2020]] review== and also add either Notes or Noticed to WP:URFA/2020A, per the instructions at WP:URFA/2020. If comments are not entered on the article talk page, they may be swept up in archives here and lost. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:36, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  1. George Washington (inventor)
  2. Maraba coffee
  3. Medieval cuisine

James Beard nominations, 2023

Time to start updating (and possibly creating some new) articles!

https://www.jamesbeard.org/blog/the-2023-james-beard-awards-semifinalists

---Another Believer (Talk) 18:22, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Ben's Chili Bowl

Ben's Chili Bowl has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.

Good article reassessment for Cuisine of the Thirteen Colonies

Cuisine of the Thirteen Colonies has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:33, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for French cuisine

French cuisine has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Israeli cuisine

Israeli cuisine has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:13, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pinot noir#Requested move 31 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 11:41, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Radish

Radish has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Hot chocolate

Hot chocolate has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Riesling

Riesling has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Meetup notice

Happy editing, ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notability tags at restaurant lists

An editor has added notability tags to:

These lists are similar to those Wikipedia has for many types of cuisine. I don't see the tags as necessary, but another editor keeps trying to interfere with restaurant articles I've worked on. Would other editors take a look and determine if the tags are necessary? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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