User talk:Nehme1499/Archive 3

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It is definitely lacking in sources, and in my opinion isn't worthy of a B class rating even if it did have them, but have you found in the past that adding literally 40 'citation needed' tags to an article has a positive outcome? I really don't see its current state as encouraging editors to fix it, which is the whole point of tagging. Crowsus (talk) 01:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Crowsus: I don't expect all tags to be replaced, but at least a handful. It's more of a "blunt statement", to show that every sentence should be sourced. Leaving things as they were made it seem as if the state of the article was acceptable, which it wasn't. Nehme1499 01:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Please see WP:Citation needed#When to use this tag bullet point 1: Tag thoughtfully. Avoid "hit-and-run" or pointed tagging.;
and WP:Citation needed#When not to use this tag bullet point 8: A reference at the end of a paragraph typically refers to the whole paragraph, and similarly a reference at the end of a sentence may almost always be taken as referring to the whole sentence. If a particular part of a sentence or paragraph seems to require a separate citation, or looks as if it may have been inserted into the text at a sentence or paragraph level, try to check the original reference rather than adding tags to text that may already be well referenced.;
and WP:CITEFOOT: If a word or phrase is particularly contentious, an inline citation may be added next to that word or phrase within the sentence, but it is usually sufficient to add the citation to the end of the clause, sentence, or paragraph, so long as it's clear which source supports which part of the text;
and WP:MINREF, which restricts the requirement for inline citation to contentious BLP, direct quotations, and material (likely to be) challenged, bearing in mind that drive-by blanking or tagbombing doesn't tend to be seen as genuine challenging;
and its subsection WP:CITEDENSE: Wikipedia does not have a "one inline citation per sentence" or "one citation per paragraph" rule, even for featured articles.
What that lot comes down to is, no, there is nothing in Wikipedia policy or guidelines that requires every sentence to be inline-sourced. And Crowsus is right that tagbombing is more likely to discourage than encourage other editors to "help" add sources, and it certainly spoils the experience for the reader. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:29, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@Struway2: I've been made aware here that every sentence needs to be sourced (Always try to ensure that a paragraph ends with a source, even if the source is included further on in the text. Otherwise it appears to the reader as though the information is unsourced). Also, what's your alternative? Keeping the article as it is, without correct sourcing? Plus, since I've added the tags, multiple people have added sources to the unsourced sentences, so if anything it does help. Nehme1499 15:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
"Here" is a peer review prior to nominating for FA. Even for FA, it isn't a requirement to source every sentence, so long as it's clear what the source is for any given sentence. Successive sentences in a paragraph, followed by an appropriate source that verifies them all, is explicitly what your talk-quote permits. My alternative, if I was interested enough in a particular article, would be to start off by using the online sources already present to inline-cite what was verifiable from those, which I'm guessing would be quite a lot of this particular article, before asking for help from others. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:01, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Need help

Hi there! I wanted to know what is the standard template used for a national football team page's results section? The template on Indian national football team has been edited saying that it's the new template, but according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/National teams it's still the old one.

Footy2000 (talk) 04:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Reference on Italy National Team Article

Reference was required by Tbhotch who claimed that calling Italy "reigning" champions wasn't NPOV without a reference by a reliable source using that language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.111.153 (talkcontribs) 15:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I disagree; the fact that Italy are reining champions is a fact, and a valid statement to add to the lead. Also, statements in the lead don't need sourcing if already sourced in the main body of the article. Nehme1499 15:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
I completely agree with you, I'm just letting you know why the reference is there in the first place. If you look there's been a bit of an edit war over it, so I included the reference to put an end to it. 24.178.111.153 (talk) 15:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Some assistance with information

Hi Nehme1499, I am creating the roster pages for the squads of the football 5-a-side in the current Paralympics, and for some players I can't find their position. I was wondering if you could have a look in Arabic to see if you can find the positions for the players missing it on Template:2020 Summer Paralympics Morocco football 5-a-side team roster (the info is from here but I can't find positions on the site). Thanks, --SuperJew (talk) 17:48, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

@SuperJew: I'm finding it a bit difficult to understand the positions. The Olympics use GK and B1, shouldn't we also be using those? Nehme1499 18:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
The B1 is the disability classification (there is also B2 and B3 but they aren't used in 5-a-side football, but you can see it in goalball for example). --SuperJew (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
@SuperJew: The best I could find are these two articles ([1], [2]), which just list the players without positions. There doesn't seem to be good coverage on the topic. Nehme1499 18:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thank you so much for looking! Yes, unfortunately the Paralympics isn't covered nearly as well as the Olympics... --SuperJew (talk) 19:09, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi,

I saw that you removed the key to the Recent Call-ups and wanted to know why you believe recentism applies? The key indicates the reason that the player has been removed from the squad, not that the player is injured at this present moment - which would indeed violate recentism.

Cheers,

Felixsv7 (talk) 08:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Sahi

Hello Nehme! I saw the good work you did for finding out the real name of Fabrice Sambu. Could you do the same for Moise Dion Sahi? His name is also unclear. Thanks! Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: I think the way the info is presented works. Nehme1499 11:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Is it really necessary to write Serie A twice in the opening line? And also why should we add a sub-paragraph for his loan to Sampdoria? What if he will have four more loans, there shouldn’t a sub-paragraph everytime only to write a line saying he has been loaned, and no other info.8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 15:57, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

@8Dodo8: The subsection will obviously be expanded with time, as he makes more appearances. It's incorrect to put his Sampdoria career info under "Juventus" imo. Nehme1499 18:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
I respect your view on this, but from what I recall from other pages most of them either put the info in the same sub-paragraph with the parent club or add it as a sub-sub-paragraph (four equal symbols). He is a defender so I don t think there will be much info to add.8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 19:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
@8Dodo8: His debut, his first-minute debut, his first goal, his total apps, etc.. I think there is enough for one or two good paragraphs. Nehme1499 20:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Do you know somebody who could help me with IPA? Romanian pronunciation: [ˈradu maˈtej drəguʃjn] I’m not sure about two symbols and the stress in his family name.8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 11:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
@8Dodo8: There is an IPA website for Italian words (DiPI), maybe there is a similar website for Romanian? Nehme1499 13:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately there is not, :( but I’ll keep searching.8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 14:20, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Whats up bro, I saw you made 167 new Wikipedia's for football players. Would these footballers be 168 and 169? See you! BosnianBeast60 (talk) 22:27, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@BosnianBeast60: Done :) Nehme1499 13:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Football Barnstar
Thank you for helping go through the hoax footy userspace drafts I found at Category:Stale userspace drafts. Your help is greatly appreciated! Keep up the great work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

This is the kind of project that I am interested in. I do have a question. The article A.F.C. Bridgnorth appears to be notable and a start class in size, but are the sources used as references reliable? Are there any more reliable sources for non-league clubs? --dashiellx (talk) 13:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@Dashiellx: At a quick glance the sources seem ok. Make sure that all sentences are sourced. Nehme1499 15:05, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Awesome, thank you. --dashiellx (talk) 19:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

A player for you ;)

Just came across a player article calling your name ;) Manuel Pucciarelli recently joined Melbourne City in Australia. Seems his article is a stub, but you could probably make a good expansion (maybe even up to GA status imo), with information from the Italian page and Italian sources (as well as any Arabic sources about his time and stats at Dibba) --SuperJew (talk) 08:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Nice, I've added him to him to-do list. Nehme1499 22:16, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Why did you reverted my edit in the section of 2021 WAFF U-23 Championship? What was the wrong there? Saif SC 2016 (talk) 12:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

@Saif SC 2016: There is not need to add a "Venue" section. Nehme1499 12:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Why not? Is any prohibited to add venue? Saif SC 2016 (talk) 12:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
@Saif SC 2016: No, but the section was empty. Nehme1499 12:43, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Your revert on WP:FPL re: USL Super League

Thanks for WP:BRD; I've started a section at WT:FPL which you are more than welcome to contribute! Also wanted to briefly explain that I didn't start a discussion initially because the sources are so clear-cut in that specific case, and because the guidelines say that discussions are recommended but not necessary. However, happy to follow BRD since you disagreed. Seany91 (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Professional

Hello Nehme. On Pilar Khoury, I said that she was a "professional" footballer because that's what I was led to believe the consensus was on WT:FOOTY; a professional footballer is any footballer that has playing football as their actual job. Khoury also plays at a national level in France and for the national team of Lebanon. It's appropriate to write "professional", imo. But you can bring it up to the WikiProject if you wish. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:34, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: Take a look at my comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 137#When is a player considered "professional"?. Nehme1499 16:59, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
By the way, can you also give your opinion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Nationality in the lead? Nehme1499 17:00, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Grenoble women

Hello Nehme. Can you tag this with {{Db-g7}} so I can move Draft:Grenoble Foot 38 (women) to mainspace? I don't want to do AfC. Thanks! Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:45, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie:  Done. Nehme1499 01:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Italian club third kits

What's with Napoli [3] and Roma [4] calling their third kits, forth kits??? Govvy (talk) 15:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Govvy: Interesting, I have no idea. I'll ask on it.wiki. Nehme1499 15:24, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
@Govvy: Apparently, Roma's 3rd kit has yet to be presented. No info on Napoli though. Nehme1499 00:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
@Govvy: Napoli's third kit also hasn't yet been announced. Nehme1499 19:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
It's a weird one, but from what I understand they are calling their European kit their third kit, even know they are using it as their first kit!! Seems odd to me. Govvy (talk) 14:51, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Amad Diallo / MOS national cup note

Hi Nehme1499 - Not only did you start an edit war on Amad Diallo but you need to bring up a discussion on the wikiproject talk page before adding content to the MOS. The onus is not on me to start a discussion about it as I am the one following the approved MOS. You are trying to make a change so you need to bring it up for discussion. Furthermore, national cup and league cup columns are very self explanatory so do not require notes. Continental and Other columns are more vague so require in-line notes. Rupert1904 (talk) 17:18, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi again Nehme1499, please stop your disruptive edits and edit warring as you have exhibited on Al Ahed FC and Hassan Maatouk articles. You are purposefully going against the MOS and are unwilling to explain why. The ball is in your court if you are trying to change the MOS. I am simply following it. Rupert1904 (talk) 23:56, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Are you really just going to follow my edits, keep reverting and disregarding the MOS with no explanation? Rupert1904 (talk) 00:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
  1. Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players: This page provides a suggested layout for footballer biographies [...] nothing is set in stone.
  2. Are you really just going to follow my edits? Is this a joke or are you being purposefully stubborn? If anything, you editing three of the pages included in the "Top edited pages" table in my userpage is "following", not the other way around. A Lebanese editor having Lebanese clubs under their watchlist makes sense, whereas you making your first edits on those three pages is just you trying to prove a point with me. Nehme1499 00:22, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Help and need your guidance

Hello brother! I want to archive all references of a particular article at a time but don't know the process. Can you plz help me by letting me know — how to do this (i edit through mobile) 😇 stay safe Nehme1499. Billjones94 (talk) 15:53, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@Billjones94: Hi, you can use Wayback Machine to archive websites :) Nehme1499 16:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks buddy 🙏🏻 Billjones94 (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Don't put deprecated sources into Wikipedia

Interview, opinion, whatever - WP:ZEROHEDGE is so strongly an unreliable source we don't use it for anything like this. This includes reprints of Zero Hedge. It would especially apply on a BLP - David Gerard (talk) 23:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Special:Diff/1055077765 on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football - it would appear your username and talk page links are not visible by adding the extra ~ after saving the edit. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 14:10, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Mensur Dogan

Can you made some Wikipedia's for football managers? If you can how about Mensur Dogan. 109.237.43.87 (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Blocked, thanks. GiantSnowman 18:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Sudan women's national team players

Hi so i recently add 2 link from officiel tweeter and facebook of sudan federation mantioned the offcial squad for 2 match in arabic cup but in arabic just i think i can help you if yo wanna the name in english user:Amara94

Sudanese recreated articles

Hi Nehme, just thought I'd flag that Hala Zakaria Mostafi, Rania Babker Babo Amer, Najlaa Saleh and Nariman Lino Joseph were all recreated just now. Do the newly added sources now verify that they have international caps? From the passages that I could run through Google Translate, I couldn't locate their names but there are such images with Arabic text which may contain the answers. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:25, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone: The social media posts with the line-ups do include players such as "Hala" and "Najlaa", but they just say their first names. There is no way for us to confirm that "Hala" is Hala Zakaria Mostafi born on 31 July 1990 who plays as a midfielder. It's clear that the article creator knows the players personally, because their full names and dates of birth are not available online. Nehme1499 15:37, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Football nationality

Thanks for referring me to WT:FOOTY, it can all be a bit baffling how different projects on Wikipedia have different methods, espescially when there are inconsistencies. I'm going to fix those in the pages I mentioned. --TylerBurden (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Berber

Is 83.137.2.193 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) the right address? They haven't edited for nearly 2 months... GiantSnowman 08:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

thanks, I've warned them - if they keep it up then perhaps we should post at WP:ANI for a range block? GiantSnowman 13:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

team_appearances

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_World_Cup#Overall_team_records

dont remove usual format team_appearances.Who said that only the results of the champion teams should be brought? You can check all similar competitions. Your action is a matter of taste. Maybe because you were born in one of the six champion countries, but this is not an interesting argument to complete the table.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_UEFA_European_Championship#Overall_team_records — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al HASAWI9 (talkcontribs) 04:38, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

@Al HASAWI9: See FIFA World Cup#All-time table for champions. The full table is already available at FIFA Arab Cup records and statistics#Overall team records. Nehme1499 13:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Elvis Sadiković

Hi Nehme! Can you do Elvis's wikipedia if it's not a problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.237.35.27 (talk) 09:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Bosnian Beast

Current list of IPs I've seen at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of BosnianBeast60 - can you request a range block at ANI please? GiantSnowman 14:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!
I wish you Merry Christmas and happy New Year! Dr Salvus 17:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

RE: Hady Ghandour

It's in his programme notes in Chelmsford's programme, I can take a picture if you want? NouveauSarfas (Talk page) 18:55, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

No worries, uploaded the page to Imgur! NouveauSarfas (Talk page) 19:05, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Help finding sources

Hey Nehme1499, was wondering if you'd be able to help me with finding sources for Iran's women squad for the 2022 AFC Women's Asian Cup? The AFC released all the squads, but I prefer sourcing each one with their own annuoncement (also not to base on a single source). I didn't manage to find anything in English and was wondering if you'd have better luck in Arabic? Thanks, --SuperJew (talk) 09:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Here you go (irandaily, tehrantimes), no need for Arabic Farsi ;) (you were just a couple of hours early) Nehme1499 12:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
@Nehme1499: Fantastic! Thanks :) --SuperJew (talk) 13:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
What is the difference between Arabic and Farsi? Are they different languages or just dialect (like Lebanese and Egyptian Arabic)? --SuperJew (talk) 13:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
@SuperJew: Completely different language families. They just both use Arabic script, though Farsi has some "diacritics" for sounds that don't exist in Arabic, similar to how Croatian uses a modified Latin script. Nehme1499 13:15, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks :) --SuperJew (talk) 13:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

My article

Hi @Nehme1499,

I hope you're well. I've been searching the football side of Wikipedia and found your page, seeing you've been linked to football projects before. If you have any spare time, I'd like for you to review my article on Danny Lupano please. If you have no spare time, then no worries of course!

Thank you so much.

Ben. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talkcontribs) 17:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

@Benpring112:  Done Nehme1499 13:53, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much @Nehme1499. Did it take much editing on your part or did you just need to cut it down a tad?
Either way, thank you and kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talkcontribs) 19:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
@Benpring112: Didn't take too much time :) Nehme1499 00:56, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
@nehme1499 Thank you so much again. Would you be happy for me to ask you to check any further articles too?
Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talkcontribs) 15:55, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
@Benpring112: Unreviewed articles are listed in a specific list for reviewers to check them out; so don't worry, they'll be taken care of eventually. Nehme1499 16:25, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Nehme1499, thank you. I have just submitted another for review. If you have some spare time, I'd love for you to take a look please, seeing as you did such a brilliant job last time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talkcontribs) 22:49, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Al Ansar FC

Hello, Nehme1499. I was left a message by an unregistered user. He asks why his edits to the article Al Ansar FC are being reverted. — Vladlen Manilov / 09:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Владлен Манилов: WP:DENY, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Cross-wiki harassment from 93.143.73.189. Nehme1499 12:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Bhutan IP

 Done GiantSnowman 14:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

it's very uncommon to block IPs for lengthy periods of time. If you think it is merited then please raise at ANI. GiantSnowman 15:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
I think WP:OWH should cover it? GiantSnowman 16:38, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

blocked, thanks. GiantSnowman 12:32, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

The 93.137 and 93.143 range IP is in Croatia - not the same as the 109.237 range in Bosnia which is BosnianBeast60. Two different users I think? GiantSnowman 15:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
I think he's been range blocked now... GiantSnowman 15:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
I've blocked the IP, but we need a range block. GiantSnowman 18:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
I've hidden the edits that disclosed your name - I cannot rangeblock, it's too technical for me. Pinging other admins who have blocked this guy recently - @Ponyo and Number 57: - to see if they can assist with a range block. GiantSnowman 21:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
I've requested a range block at meta.wiki; I don't know if this is the correct procedure. The rangeblock should also last at least several months (if not 1 year), as this is only a repetition of last year's episode with MYS. Nehme1499 22:27, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

IP already blocked; I have removed the edit summaries. It would be easier for me if you provided diffs, and as I won't be around much over the weekend if it happens again please use WP:REVDELREQUEST. GiantSnowman 17:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Unfortunately I have no idea how a rangeblock is implemented. Would be interested to know if anyone could show me, as I occasionally need to request them too. Cheers, Number 57 22:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Since you speak Italian

@Nehme1499: could you be of assistance and help improve the Italian football coach article about Manlio Scopigno. Dwanyewest (talk) 11:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest:  Done Nehme1499 13:07, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Luka Stankovski

 Done GiantSnowman 18:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Stop Removing Notable Information in Lelo Sejean

What happened, friend? You don't like Paraguay ? Payaso — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro (talkcontribs) 19:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Spamming the WP:RFPP board

WP:RFPP is not for dispute resolution between you and a single IP address. Do not misuse the board again please. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: this is more than 'dispute resolution', this is widespread harassment by an IP user who has already forced one long standing editor to retire through his threats. GiantSnowman 22:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Apologies for mis-characterizing it as a "dispute"; at this time, however, rangeblocking seems like a better approach. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:36, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Croatian IP

 Done - edit summaries hidden and pages protected. However a few realities for you - this editor will probably just find ways to harass you on other pages; they are probably doing it because you are making a big deal out of it (and for what it's worth you can't easily tell it's your first name); you need to keep a track of all IPs used and request a wide range block; I am not probably not going to be around as much as I have been recently for the next few weeks/months so you will need to use other channels for help when I'm not around. It's very lucky I decided to pop back on tonight! GiantSnowman 22:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

for clarity - me saying you were making a "big" deal out of it was not a criticism! GiantSnowman 06:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Another Italian football article that be improved

Italy national under-23 football team I think could be improved what do you think? Dwanyewest (talk) 20:24, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest: I have no problem improving articles; however, since you are the one who created the article, I'm not sure I feel very comfortable with this behaviour. Essentially, you created a 1 line stub, and are delegating the "actual" creation of the article to someone else. I've cleaned up the article to a basic standard, though you can easily expand it using information present in the it.wiki article. Nehme1499 21:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Croatian IP

Do you know it's the same guy? He doesn't appear to use the usual edit summaries... GiantSnowman 12:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

the IP is blocked and I'm afraid there's not enough disruption to merit protection. GiantSnowman 12:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hady Ghandour

Such black and white rules don't always exist or are practical. However, in my view, the guide should be 'how would the player be described if they never played international football?' - if that is different to their sporting nationality, omit it (like Ghandour); if it's the same (Sterling and Haaland) include it. GiantSnowman 17:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Understood, but it's simply not the same as Sterling or Haaland. It's no different to one of the many English-born players who play from a young age for Wales/Scotland/Ireland... GiantSnowman 19:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Are you saying that if Ghandour had not played for Lebanon under-15s he now wouldn't be a professional at Charlton?! You've asked for a "black and white" rule - I have suggested one - you have rejected it. Why? GiantSnowman 19:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey mate,

Just thinking as we're now looking to close off international careers before a player's retirement, do you feel that we should amend the key to the following (or something to this effect):

Players in bold are still active with the national team.
Players in italics are still active at club level.

Let me know if you feel that it'd be worth a discussion.

Felixsv7 (talk) 15:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

@Felixsv7: I'm neither for nor against, though for us to determine whether a player is active at club level is OR, I think. We'd need to individually source each player to prove that they are still active, just not at the international level. Nehme1499 16:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Give you a few minutes

I'm going to give you a few minutes to revert yourself at Phonk so that you are not in violation of WP:3RR. Otherwise, I will write up a report about your reverts at WP:ANEW, which usually results in a block. Binksternet (talk) 20:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@Binksternet: WP:BRD: you were bold, I reverted, you should have opened a discussion, which you didn't. Instead, your decided approach was to template a regular editor, great. My reverts of the IP's edits were not "content dispute", as they were just adding unsourced information. I don't count those towards 3RR. Your constant removal of sourced information is baseless; you should have opened a discussion (either here or on the article talk page). Nehme1499 20:29, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Couple more minutes for you to consider your position... Binksternet (talk) 20:32, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Do you really think it's wise to add back exactly what you were blocked for edit warring over here? I'll give you a few minutes to revert yourself and start a discussion on the talk page to reach consensus. CUPIDICAE💕 13:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
@Praxidicae: I was blocked for a different set of edits, involving the Yokai YT channel (see the talk page). The rest has nothing to do with the discussion! I have already added my comment on the talk page… This is bordering on bullying. Nehme1499 13:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
No one is bullying you, I'm certainly not but you were blocked for edit warring on that article and making changes without reaching consensus including restoring 1.) unreliable sources 2.) questionable sources 3.) names of individuals that aren't notable. In any case, you need to start a discussion. If you choose not to, I'll request a block from the article itself until you can make a reasonable effort at discussion and consensus on the talk page. CUPIDICAE💕 13:33, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
The discussion is already there (see Talk:Phonk). Binksternet initially removed content on the basis that yokai is unreliable. Ok, great, I haven't added Yokai's stuff. However, the edit I made today has nothing to do with that! There are a different set of sources (all reliable). Also, just because there are red links, doesn't mean that the names should be completely removed from the article! If it's deemed that there is no basis for an article, then just unlink them; the names are still relevant to the topic of “phonk”, even if they don't have individual articles. Nehme1499 13:40, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
The guideline WP:LISTPEOPLE supports removal of non-notable names. It streamlines the prose.
If someone played a crucial role in a musical genre then they should have a Wikipedia article written about them because of their wide influence. Writing those articles (and having them survive WP:AFD) will get the disputed names back in. Binksternet (talk) 14:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

FIFA WC qualifiers

Well, we've butchered any chance of directly advancing, so we'll have to play-off against UAE or your lot. Think there's a chance of an Australia v Lebanon showdown? --SuperJew (talk) 13:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Given how our game is currently playing out, we're probably finishing in last place :) Nehme1499 13:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
oh boy :S SuperJew (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
@SuperJew: Anyway, the UAE are very beatable. The real concern for you is the CONMEBOL team... Nehme1499 13:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
the real concern for us is the Socceroos team and coach 😔 -- SuperJew (talk) 15:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
@SuperJew: I still have Italy tonight, hopefully they don't make it a double. Nehme1499 15:37, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
hope they get the job done against North Macedonia! Israel never had a chance so never had hope haha SuperJew (talk) 18:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
so sorry mate! SuperJew (talk) 22:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Today has been interesting... Nehme1499 22:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Not a bad chance for Iraq to swoop in and steal third place SuperJew (talk) 06:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, actually they’re probably the most likely now, as long as they beat Syria. Regardless, the UAE, Iraq and Lebanon have been the worst 3 countries to play for World Cup playoffs in history. All terribly inconsistent, and the gap with Iran and South Korea is huge. Nehme1499 06:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
No joke it's crazy how much of a difference it is SuperJew (talk) 12:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Levantine Arabic FAC

Hi Nehme1499, I nominated Levantine Article for FAC. As you contributed to this article in the past, I thought you could be interested in reviewing it. Thanks for any help you can provide. A455bcd9 (talk) 14:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Levantine template

Thanks a lot for the template! By the way I think you need to edit this to make your translations available across all Wikimedia projects. A455bcd9 (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I did it but it doesn't work because apc isn't enabled on TranslateWiki. On the other hand, ajp is. Also if you want to contribute, we're (re)starting the Shami Wikipedia: any contribution is more than welcome! A455bcd9 (talk) 13:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Nice work! Any reason why you preferred to use ajp rather than apc? NL has double the amount of speakers SL has. Also, "shami" is almost synonymous with Syrian (so, NL), as opposed to Palestinian. It's unfortunate Levantine doesn't have it's own code. Nehme1499 14:11, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
A455bcd9. Nehme1499 14:11, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
The idea would be to have both ajp and apc on the ajp Wikipedia, because the differences between the dialects, when written in the Arabic script, are not that important (like between European and Brazilian Portuguese). We chose the ajp code because... the ajp test Wikipedia was already there and looked nice. And there was a lot of technical work to do to enable the language code. And participants in the project are mostly Palestinians and Jordanians. In any case, all Levantine speakers are welcome to contribute in their own variety (rural, urban, Palestine, Lebanon, etc.).
Also, I submitted a proposal in December 2021 (together with 2 linguists, including one Palestinian native speaker) to the ISO standard to merge apc and ajp into a single "Levantine" language code. We'll see if they accept our proposal... It would simplify things a lot :) A455bcd9 (talk) 14:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
@A455bcd9: Hopefully the proposal goes through :) Nehme1499 15:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
@A455bcd9: While I think it's a very nice concept, I'm not sure how we can uniform the language. I agree that a lot of differences boil down to pronunciation (of a word written the same way in Arabic script), but there are quite a few other grammatical differences between speakers of the region: someone might say "ana ma akalet" (I didn't eat), others "ana akaltish". Some might say "shu" (what), others "esh", and so on. There's no need for me to lecture you, as I'm sure you know quite a lot about this. How do you think this issue should be dealt with? Nehme1499 15:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
What's your question: how can we deal with different varieties on the same Wikipedia? This will be up to contributors to decide (I don't speak well enough, I only set up things so that native speakers can contribute). If they think the differences are too important then different Wikipedia will be used. But because the written language is more formal and declarative I think there should be fewer problems. For instance "shu" and "esh" wouldn't appear anyway. Then some convention can be used. The problem also exists here to a certain extent btw (cf. MOS:ENGVAR) and people manage it reasonably well. If you want to contribute to a separate apc Wikipedia feel free to do so here! A455bcd9 (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

A.C. Monza

@Baffle gab1978: Thanks for your work, much appreciated! Nehme1499 10:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem; sorry it's taken so long to get around to it. Good luck with your planned GA nomination. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Happy Easter

Happy Easter!
I wish you a happy Easter! Dr Salvus 13:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Lebanese Romanization of the Little Prince

Hi, Apparently WP:TRANSCRIPTION is not considered original research. So if you could add the Arabizi (with numbers for instance) of the Little Prince text it would be awesome. [Then I could change that to the same Romanization scheme as the Palestinian version to better compare] A455bcd9 (talk) 13:04, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@A455bcd9: Done. Though, in the fourth paragraph, عزوبة (which in MSA is تسرح) doesn't make sense. It should be تصفن in dialect. Nehme1499 13:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! That's the word used in the source, but yes, Maurice Awwad's translation may be a bit weird... A455bcd9 (talk) 16:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Edit-warring over a comma?

So, you're edit-warring over a comma at Nuova Accademia di Belle Arti – a single comma! Do you really think that that is worthwhile? Is there really no other defect or lacuna anywhere in the encyclopaedia that you could work to correct? You cite MOS:DIGITS, but seem to have forgotten to read it yourself; here's the relevant bit: "Numbers with exactly four digits left of the decimal point may optionally be grouped (either 1,250 or 1250)". Isn't that clear enough? What you may not be aware of is that in Italian usage the comma is the decimal separator (a full-stop is the thousands separator), meaning that in a page most likely to be read by speakers of Italian, the fewer unnecessary such commas there are, the better. Would you kindly undo your mistaken revert? Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Maybe looking to improve the article, that has uncited sentences, a poor citation format and needs cleanup, along with generally needing expansion (possibly using the Italian Wikipedia article as a reference) are more pressing issues to take care of, I believe, rather than being offended by the addition of a comma. Also, please remember that this is the English Wikipedia, not the Italian one, so Italian convention regarding numbers is irrelevant here. Nehme1499 00:00, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your tireless contributions towards Lebanese football Prodrummer619 (talk) 05:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Well deserved! --SuperJew (talk) 05:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
@Prodrummer619 and SuperJew: Thanks guys :) Nehme1499 10:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Any help would be appreciated

If you think you could help La Domenica Sportiva be improved I would it would be appreciated. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:03, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Croatian guy

The next time he's back, then you should email the oversighters. Dr Salvus 19:02, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: I don't care, to be honest. He can waste his time as much as he wants. Nehme1499 19:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Another question, Compagnon scored the equaliser in the first leg of the play-offs against Renate. Is his goal notable enough to be inserted in the prose? (The U19s and the U23s are 100000 times better than the first team) Dr Salvus 09:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
@Dr Salvus: I don't think so, it's just a goal. Nehme1499 11:13, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi...

Hi how are you? Please help me the name of Goalscorers, match officials, and match report of 2022 CAFA U-16 Championship. Thanks. MD Hydrogen 123 (talk) 10:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Croatian guy

If you want your name shown by him to be hidden, you shouldn't be requesting admins. Somebody who mistakenly reads the page you've written will know how you're called. You should email the oversighters. In addition, oversighted edits can only be seen by oversighters, while any other admin would be able to see a non-oversighted hidden edit. Dr Salvus 11:04, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

I've emailed the oversighters for you. Dr Salvus 11:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but I don't intend to email oversighters every day. If admins don't know how to deal with the situation, then I guess there is not much to do other than to keep reverting him. Nehme1499 11:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Another thing, I hope you won't mind, if I follow your edits to see whether he's back. Dr Salvus 11:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
I've sent you an email. I preferred emailing you because I couldn't show its content on wiki for your and my privacy. Dr Salvus 15:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Status quo

I can't be bothered, but this edit summary is a contradiction. GiantSnowman 13:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: I still disagree with the notion that there is a status quo in the first place. A couple of editors saying "I have no preference" and one guy agreeing with you in a 13-year old discussion is nowhere close to consensus. Nehme1499 13:17, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
you sought - and failed - to gain consensus to change the status quo. you therefore cannot argue there is not one. GiantSnowman 14:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: I sought to establish a consensus. There is no status quo. Nehme1499 15:17, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

احتفالات الدومو

السلام عليكم لاحظت صورة وضعتها انت بصفحة ميلان لاحتفالات الدومو وقت تتويج ميلان وانا كنت حاضر يومها وكأني شفت نفسي بالصورة، هل ممكن نتواصل واتس اب او اي مكان اخر عشان ترسلي الصور وشكرا — Preceding unsigned comment added by FreePalestine1993 (talkcontribs) 01:54, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@FreePalestine1993: أهلاً. فيك تبعتلي ايميل، وببعتلك رقمي من هنيك. بفضل ما وزع رقمي ع Wikipedia Nehme1499 02:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Hey,

The changes that you've made to the columning on the Records section now bunch the two tables next to each other rather than separating them evenly on the page. Why do you think that this is an improvement on the previous col-?

Cheers,

Felixsv7 (talk) 13:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Felixsv7: Because col didn't account for the width of the device. On mobile view, you would be forced to scroll horizontally in order to view the table on the right. Now, if the two tables don't fix next to each other on a narrow screen, the second table goes below the first one, while they stay next to each other on wider screens (desktop for e.g.). Nehme1499 14:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there a way of more evenly spacing them for desktop viewing rather than having them immediately adjacent? Felixsv7 (talk) 14:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
@Felixsv7: Done. Nehme1499 14:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Paulo Dybala

Recently on Paulo Dybala's article you have reverted my edit that put the timespan of his career at 2015-2022, despite the fact that he confirmed that he's leaving the club. And if you check the view history, you can see that the user Dr Salvus was basically being a textbook warmonger. You'd do yourself a pleasure by self-reverting your edit. Fijipedia (talk) 22:24, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Fijipedia he can still renew (I hope so, knowing it won't happen). And that edit you'd pointed out at Paul Pogba (one I don't want to be at Juve) is wrong. And Dybala's contract is ending on 30 June. Wait for Inter to officialise him. Dr Salvus 22:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
@Dr Salvus It's not just Pogba. Players such as Tchouameni and Nunez (leaving for Real Madrid and Liverpool respectively) have their current club start shown as 2020 and end as 2022. No need to break Wikipedia norms. Also, why are you even here and a completely different user's talk page. Is this your second account or something? If that's the case, I think this account's revert on Dybala's article breaks Wikipedia policy. If not, you shouldn't even be here. Fijipedia (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
@Dr Salvus On top of that, it is said in the body of the article that "Dybala played his final home match for Juventus on 16 May 2022 against Lazio, being substituted by Martin Palumbo in the 78th minute, for which he received a standing ovation." What's the point of reverting my edits if the body directly supports my claim? Fijipedia (talk) 22:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia Nuñez and Tchouameni have arleady signed with their respective new teams, but Dybala hasn't yet. That's the rule and someone else would have reverted the edits. Then, you did ping me, so I knew your comment. The sentence about Dybala's last Juventus game may be notable for the standing ovation received, which no one can ever cancel. And no, we are not the same person at all.
To conclude, this talk page is no place to discuss about. Do something at Wt:footy instead. Dr Salvus 23:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia: Dybala will leave Juventus (future tense): ergo, he hasn't yet left. Wait until 1 July to make changes. Nehme1499 23:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Nehme, a thing which isn't related to this discussion. The next time you don't want to write "Dr Salvus", write "Doc" instead of "Dr". Dr Salvus 09:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
He will leave Juve in 2022, so what's wrong with my edit? He confirmed that he won't renew. Fijipedia (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia This is no place to talk about. Dr Salvus 11:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't think you decide that, I think Wikipedia policy does. User talk pages are all about discussing a user's edits. Fijipedia (talk) 11:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia you may get more responses there instead of here. Dr Salvus 11:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia: So if a player will leave in 2023, would you put 2023 in the infobox? Closing the year span implies that he currently isn't a player for that club. Not that he won't be in the future. Nehme1499 12:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
If a player confirmed that he would be leaving. It doesn't really imply anything. Fijipedia (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia: Again, future. Not present. Wait until 1 July. Nehme1499 13:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Pogba, Origi, and Dani Alves confirmed that they would be leaving, and their articles state 2016-2022, 2014-2022, and 2021-2022 respectively. So according to wikipedia norms, you don't really have an argument. Fijipedia (talk) 14:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
@Fijipedia You are being tedious: those edits are wrong! Dr Salvus 15:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Wrong if not officialized yet, like in Dybala's case. Dr Salvus 15:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Then, if you want a proper discussion: DO THAT AT WT:FOOTY. Dr Salvus 16:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
So you're saying that Wikipedia norms are wrong? Nope. Your argument is just wrong. I'll take this argument to WT:FOOTY, this conversation won't get anywhere. Fijipedia (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I do care a lot on this article. If he was to be gifted to Monza on loan (due to a trainer unable to valorise youngsters), please do keep this updated and maintain its quality. Dr Salvus 11:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing. Though, I don't really see the point in Monza taking him on a "prestito secco". If we don't have a right of purchase, I'd rather get someone else. Nehme1499 11:16, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

I have read your comments at COIN, but that was not why I was placing {{uw-coi}} here - it was to ensure that you are aware of what conflicts of interest are and when you are required to make disclosures. By removing the notice you are implicitly stating that you have read the notice and will abide by what it says. SmartSE (talk) 13:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Mustafa Saadoun

Hi Nehme, I hope you're well. Regarding Mustafa Saadoun, is there established consensus for whether playing for a club at youth level means the player is included in the players category for that club? I note, for example, that Harry Kane played for Arsenal at youth level but is not in the Arsenal F.C. players category. Likewise, Ryan Giggs played for Man City at youth level but is not in Manchester City F.C. players category. Thanks, Hashim-afc (talk) 02:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Hashim-afc, check this discussion. See comments such as:
  • I see no problems with including youth players in the parent category, which is what we currently do.
  • The main category has always been used for any player who is on the club's books, even at youth level.
  • As far as I am aware the current set-up is that we have a single category per club, and into that we put everyone who was with that club as a player, be that as a youth or an adult.
As far as I'm concerned, I would not put youth players in the senior category. But it seems to be the current status quo, so unless we have another discussion this is how I would procede for now. Nehme1499 11:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

FC LYON

Hello Nehme, I made that edit on the FC Lyon category because it’s a sports club with several sports, and I specified what “players” meant– specifically footballers. Ideally, the category should be renamed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:24, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: My bad, I think Wikipedia messed up on my end. When viewing the dif it showed me as if you had copied and pasted Marvin Tshibuabua's article onto the category page. Anyway, I would keep the template and request a rename into Category:FC Lyon footballers. Nehme1499 22:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Community Shield

Started off a new section on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football about the problem one of the registered editors does on multiple articles, I didn't realise an earlier edit started it off further up the page which was started by Daemonickangaroo2018. So thanks for merging my edit into the existing topic. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 17:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

A humble request

Hello Nehme, I hope you're well & contributing tremendously. Here on the page, Mohammedan SC (Kolkata), Mr. Debankan Mullick made a ton of edits, removing important data, records, file–images, citations and others, without mentioning edit summaries. According to me (who, within a year or more than that, contributed neutral data, references, and things related to the club), those edits (few of those, are acceptable; others are synonymous of vandalism) predominantly made the article poor, inappropriate, and "damaged". I'm requesting you, if possible, please take a look on those happenings, and fix/restore all necessary data and references, to make the article "healthy". Thanking you a lot at the end & keep smiling :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billjones94 (talkcontribs)

@Billjones94: I think you should contact them directly on their talk page, and explain your point of view. Nehme1499 20:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Ok, thank you :) Billjones94 (talk) 04:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning Juventus F.C. Youth Sector up. :) I had actually considered to do that but I had never wanted to. Also, happy 9th anniversary since your registration. Dr Salvus 00:08, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks :) Nehme1499 00:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
I may be foolish but shall we try to make it a GA? Dr Salvus 13:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
It's definitely not good enough. Nehme1499 14:13, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Tomorrow I'm going to a cruise until the 22nd and not always, will I have internet access. Would you take care of updating Juventus' minor transfers and those footballers' pages? Dr Salvus 10:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
@Dr Salvus: Sure, I'll try. Nehme1499 11:11, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your disponibilty :) Then, if you were to be courious to know where I go, I'll publish some pictures (which won't show me) here. I'm going to Palermo, Naples, Genoa, Marseille, Barcelona and Tunisi. Even though if I had internet access, I won't have my PC. Dr Salvus 11:20, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Good Article Reassessment

Nehme1499, the Sudan women's national football team article is currently undergoing a GA reassessment, which can be found at Talk:Sudan women's national football team/GA3. It seems likely that, absent someone knowledgeable who is able to work on the issues raised, the article will be delisted from being a Good Article in early August. If you are able to stop by and improve the article per the reassessment, it could retain its GA status. Thank you for your past work on the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Promotion of A.C. Monza

Congratulations, Nehme1499! The article you nominated, A.C. Monza, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 23 September 2022. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 2022 (or will be soon) , or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/September 2022. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Wehwalt: Heya, thanks for notifying me. How come the scheduling was moved from 1 to 23 September? Given that the club's founding was on 1 September, it would be a nice touch to showcase the article that day. Nehme1499 21:45, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I know. I know. I wanted to do it but I noticed Carlton Town F.C. is scheduled for the 31 August by another coordinator and if we schedule football clubs on consecutive days, there will be talk.----Wehwalt (talk) 22:53, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
@Wehwalt: I see. Can't Carlton Town be moved to September (since they were also founded on that month)? Anyways, it's not a huge deal. Nehme1499 22:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I could do the 20th, the anniversary of their first recorded win?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
@Wehwalt: I think if it's not 1 September, any day goes. Nehme1499 21:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
The 20th then.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

1963 Arab Cup squads

I know you reverted my edition because it was according to RSSSF. But that same source (RSSSF) also said "Note: it is possible that Samik Bechkejian played instead of Samik Sabkadjian.". KoreanDragon (talk) 08:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@KoreanDragon: True, but it says "it's possible". Both players exist, it's just that RSSSF isn't sure which one was at the Arab Cup. FA Lebanon doesn't have info on the 1963 Arab Cup so we can't use it to determine the names of the players at that competition. Nehme1499 10:45, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
FA Lebanon actually has data about the competition, but i had to check the single profiles of the players (where it says the competition they played), since it requires to log in for the tournament information. KoreanDragon (talk) 11:36, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
@KoreanDragon: FA Lebanon will migrate to a new website (relatively) soon, so I'd wait until then. Nehme1499 11:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

For over 100 article reviews during 2021. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:17, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

The Football Barnstar

The Football Barnstar
Brilliant work on cleaning up the Antigua and Barbuda national football team article. — NZFC(talk)(cont) 00:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
@NZFC: Grazie :) Nehme1499 00:35, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Changes?

I must have supposed that you could revert the edition... but what "established format" are you talking about? In the debate that you opened yourself (this) most of the editors agreed that this stupid color scheme could be avoided. Therefore don't cite "established format" when you are the only one that persist on using the unuseful light blue. Fma12 (talk) 16:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Fma12:
  • Kante4: Agree with the overkill with the icons and as a whole it's not an improvement, tbh
  • Lee Vilenski: I'm not a fan of either if I'm honest
  • Spike 'em: I prefer the before table, though could ditch the coloured rows
The consensus seems to be to keep the established format removing the colours, not to overhaul the whole format. Nehme1499 17:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Lee Vilenski: I'm not a fan of either if I'm honest (?)
Kante4: Agree with the overkill with the icons ... (but the current table depict both, an excessive amount of flag icons and the unncessary addition of light blue).
I don't see consensus has been so categorical, nevertheless I'm going to remove the pointless color scheme. Fma12 (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

The wp:BURDEN is on you to add a wp:inline citation. See help:referencing for beginners. Thank you Adakiko (talk) 19:49, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Adakiko: I've provided you with a reference, which is already present in the external links section. Nehme1499 19:50, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Juventus U23 new (horrendous) name

Why not doing what's being done at it.wiki? Dr Salvus 19:53, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: Because I don't agree. Regardless of what the FIGC says/does, Juventus officially announced the name change, and Lega Pro promptly updated their website. News articles will start using the new name from now on. Nehme1499 19:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Let's leave my puerile thoughts, what will we put in a player infobox if he played for Juventus U23 and for Juventus Next Gen? Dr Salvus 20:21, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
@Dr Salvus: We leave "Juventus Next Gen" and add an {{efn}} note saying "Juventus U23 changed their name to Juventus Next Gen in 2022." Nehme1499 20:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Would you move the Arabic and Persian (if you can) pages on Juventus U23 with its new name? I can't use the Arabic script. Dr Salvus 13:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Done for Arabic. Persian uses a slightly different alphabet so I'm not 100% sure how to write it that way. Nehme1499 13:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Monza–Juventus

Monza's first Serie A victory (but the players clearly boycotted Allegri) is always notable and will remain in Monza's history for ever. Don't understand why it could be a WP:RECENTISM.

Off topic question: who did you support beetween them? Despite the results, Stroppa's ball is not bad. Everyone can be better than acciuga. Dr Salvus 18:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: True, maybe recentism isn't the correct word I was looking for. In general, I don't like writing things as they happen time by time, as you risk to write a series of "on [date 1], this happened. on [date 2], this other thing happened, etc...". I'd rather wait until the end and write a better-flowing summary. Anyway, I've restored the mention of the win; I'll rewrite the section at the end of the season anyway.
Stroppa is an Allegri 0.5. Pass the ball from the GK to the CB, LB, CB, back to the GK and repeat. I think I lost the passion I had for Juve in the 2011–2017 period. Monza has kind of filled in that gap in the past 3-ish years. Nehme1499 18:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I am in the same situation. I too lost the passion I had for Juventus. I no more celebrate Juventus goals and have recently started supporting for the opponents to see Allegri sacked.
Hopefully, I have always had some interest for Juventus U23 which has grown with the time. However, I can never see their matches because they are not free-to-air.
I am obsessed with Juventus U19, trained divinely by Montero. In this season, I have seen every minute of Juventus U19 matches (except for a match). You do should watch their matches, they are the only team that can make me rejoice. I also try to be informed as much as possible on lower youth teams of Juventus and Italy. Dr Salvus 19:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Al-Bandari Mubarak

Hi, User:Nehme1499. You just reverted a change I made (no problem) - I just thought the lead should indicate she is a woman footballer. Best wishes. Paul W (talk) 11:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Paul W: I get what you mean, but since we don't do that for male footballers I don't see why we should do it for female players. Nehme1499 12:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

editing Draft:Hannah Keane

Hi Nehme1499 : i just got an edit conflict as i was doing some more copyediting here at the same time, which included some of your edits, and mainly some updates on the references. Are you now finished, so i can do a further update? Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

And i'm in Australia, and will otherwise shortly do to bed if you anser is no.Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:35, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
@Matilda Maniac: No worries, I'm done :) Nehme1499 12:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Cheers ! I'll be 5 minutes, as some of my changes are now already made. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:37, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you today for A.C. Monza, introduced: "After over a decade of financial troubles, in 2018 Italian football club A.C. Monza was purchased by media tycoon (and generally controversial figure) Silvio Berlusconi. After a lot of passion (and money) injected into the club, Monza gained promotion to the Serie A (the Italian top division) for the first time this year."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Precious

football in Lebanon and Italy

Thank you for quality articles around football such as A.C. Monza, list of international goals scored by Hassan Maatouk, Lebanon national football team, 1940 Mandatory Palestine v Lebanon football match, for adding articles to the Italian and Spanish Wikipedias, for "it would be a nice touch to showcase the article that day", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2762 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Wow, thanks! Really appreciate it :) Nehme1499 07:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
September songs
Thank you! - Wow, they come fast: today we thank you for 1940 Mandatory Palestine v Lebanon football match, "about an association football friendly match in 1940 between the Lebanon national team, and the Mandatory Palestine national team (the precursor to today's Israel national team). With this year marking the 80th anniversary of the match, I thought it was a good idea to push for a FA nomination."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

What do you think?

Since you are knowledgeable about things Italian what do you make of these articles List of foreign Serie A (women's football) players, Serie B (women's football), Serie C (women's football). Dwanyewest (talk) 11:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest: I think that List of foreign Serie A (women's football) players should be more similar to List of foreign Serie A players. See the individual player entries: they have the clubs and years. Serie B and C are fine, but need expanding from the Italian Wikipedia pages. Nehme1499 11:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

footnotes on Leonardo Cerri

Hey Nehme1499, my edit here still keeps the footnotes separate from the references. But it makes both footnotes appear, whereas currently there is a cite error at the bottom of the page.

Also I moved Notes above References per WP:LAYOUT. = paul2520 💬 23:21, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker), @Paul2520, I was about to undo your edit, then Nehme did that. The main problem is that you used Greek alphabet letters in the table when they are never used for it. You should've put a "normal efn" onto it, and a notelist under it. I can't do it now given I don't have my PC. Dr Salvus 05:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
@Paul2520: my bad, I didn't notice that. I fixed that now. Nehme1499 06:16, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022

Information icon Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. It looks to me like you and that IP have some sort of history. I'm very, very aware of how annoying it can be to deal with long-term-abuse, but the edit you made on that talk page was not acceptable for a variety of reasons, and it's always better to not feed the trolls. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Ranocchia and Juventus Next Gen

(I still keep watching the best loaned Juventus footballers pages), how do you get to encounter footballers as you did at Filippo Ranocchia? Then, to reduce that potential huge list at Juventus Next Gen, what about inserting the players who have had more than x first-team appearances? Dr Salvus 11:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: I just happened to bump into him in Monza after the game vs Milan. Looking at FC Barcelona Atlètic and Real Madrid Castilla, they seem to have fixed 100 top-division games and/or 1 national team game. Maybe we can re-add the list for now with 1 top-division/national team game, and then, in the future, restrict it further by increasing the games. Nehme1499 11:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

(Un)notable info

How do you distinguish notable info from non-notable info as you did at Samuel Iling-Junior? (I am so proud to have discovered him when he was in the Primavera and to have created that page in January 2021 before it was deleted.) Dr Salvus 15:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: Can you give me some examples? Nehme1499 16:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
How did you decide that x info was notable and that y info wasn't at that page? Dr Salvus 16:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Some stuff is not necessary. He moved to Turin, in a new country at 16 without his family in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. I mean, he moved for footballing reasons, of course he's without his family. And what does COVID have to do with anything? Or for example, [...] and two minutes after the Milik goal, he crossed for Matías Soulé, from which Weston McKennie scored the definitive 4–3: there's no need to go in such detail, just say that he provided a key pass. Some phrasing such as drew applause from the audience also violates WP:PUFFERY. Nehme1499 16:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, even in real life, I have a habit of saying too many useless things and to show my ego for futile reasons. This generates hatred from many towards me.... Perhaps, I should start with Wikipedia to improve. Dr Salvus 16:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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How do you write leads

Can I know how you write leads? Yesterday, I'd written the lead at Luka Romero but you said it was poor. I wonder why I have struggles in deciding whether a content is notable or not. Dr Salvus 10:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: As a bear minimum, there should be links in the lead. Then there are too many poorly-frased sentences, which anyway should not be in the lead. Romero had a trial to play with Barcelona but did not (unnecessary and weirdly phrased), having a goal ratio superior to 2 (Italian sentence structure). He made his Mallorca first-team manager in June 2020 (manager?). There is way too much detail, there is no need to talk about all the youth teams, or specify that he made his debut in June 2020 specifically. He's still 17: what will the lead look like when he's 30 if we continue like this? Nehme1499 10:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
I am more arrogant than I think. At school I don't even manage to get a mark superior to 8.5/10 in English. I should be reading more leads in young footballers' articles.
I even thought of adding something and nominating it for GA. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Dr Salvus 11:03, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Want to say I have access to Gazetta dello Sport's pay-per-view contents since I have DAZN Italy subscription. Tell me should you ever want me to use them for an article. Dr Salvus 22:38, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Amad Diallo

He made 8 senior appearances in 2020-21 season for Man Utd - having already spent 2 seasons with Atlanta's senior career. In what way was he a Man Utd youth player in 2021-22? GiantSnowman 21:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

He signed for Man Utd in January 2021. His article says "He was first called up to the senior team on 9 February [2021] [...] on 18 February [2021], Diallo made his first-team debut for United" - so immediately involved with the first team! GiantSnowman 21:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
No consensus per the 2020 RfC. Please maintain the stable version of the article. Fyi, Diallo played more youth games (5) for United than he did Premier League games (3). He also played the youth games as an 18-19 year old, not as a 30 year old coming back from injury. Nehme1499 22:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I don't like not considering him as a youth player either but think of minor nations (such as your Lebanon) in which not much information on youth careers is known. Dr Salvus 23:10, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
We include information based on reliable sources anyway. If sources are not available, we don't add the information. Nehme1499 23:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
How do you determine whether x has ended his youth career or not?
You can do it because the player was in England. How do you manage to know when an anonymous Lebanese player played his last non-senior match without using Trasfermarkt (does it even cover the Lebanese youth league?) Dr Salvus 23:40, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
I don't have to determine anything on my own. I just report what sources say. If they state that a given Lebanese player was a youth player for a certain club, without specifying the year range, I don't add years. Nehme1499 23:47, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes - and the sources say he began his senior career with Man Utd in February 2021, after signing for them in January 2021. the fact he might also have appeared for the youth team does not matter. Players of any age can appear for Premier League youth teams, see this. GiantSnowman 07:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Please refer to my comment above. Diallo was an 18-year old player, not an overage player recovering from injury. And as I (and countless others) have stated before: one does not exclude the other. A player can play both at youth and senior level at the same time. Same as someone playing internationally at both U21 and senior level, or someone playing for both Juventus F.C. and Juventus Next Gen. It doesn't make sense to say "once he makes his first minute of senior play, he automatically can not be considered a youth player". What about cases such as Jacopo Surricchio? According to you, he should be considered a Roma senior player, just because he played eight(!) minutes of third-division football aged 15, and was signed to Roma's under-17s (not even under-19s!). Nehme1499 11:57, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Would suggest this be discussed at WT:FOOTY. We may find other opinions. Dr Salvus 11:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
If anything, a second RfC should be opened. Nehme1499 11:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Surricchio seems to be able to make his Roma debut (he managed to play in Serie C at 15). What about Arnel Jakupović? Empoli gave him to Juventus on a six-month loan in January 2018. As far as I remember, he was never called up to Juventus first-team and played as a overage player for Juventus U19. He'd already debuted earlier in senior football but he can not be considered as a Juventus first-team player.
There are pros and cons with both ideas. Dr Salvus 12:21, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
"Seems able" and "played" are very different. He is nowhere near making his first-team debut for Roma in the Serie A. Calling him a senior player for Roma is ridiculous. And, if anything, your Jakupović further proves my point. Nehme1499 12:23, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
But I have to say that it is difficult to determine when a player ended his youth career in godforsaken countries or before the 1970s. Dr Salvus 13:05, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Per what I said above, just report what sources say. Nehme1499 13:21, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Can I ask you why you don't want to be a GA nominatior of the page? You have made a lot more edits than me and you are its creator. I've always had an interest towards Juventus' reserve and youth teams since 2018 but I wasn't registred that year. Dr Salvus 10:11, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: I'm not sure how I can add myself as co-nominator. Nehme1499 10:14, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
I'll do it for you. Dr Salvus 10:15, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Nehme1499, please don't edit the WP:GAN page directly. Any changes made there will just be overwritten by the bot that recreates the GAN page every 20 minutes. The way you update things is by editing the GA nominee template on the article's talk page. It's especially important not to edit the GAN page directly since we've just gotten a new bot, and direct edits might cause issues with the bot. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

You are not forced to reply here:
Might I ask why you no longer reply to my emails? I know my behaviour was wrong but this belongs to the past. I think I lost a friendship with you and wish this could be restored. I've never had many friendships in my real life... Dr Salvus 07:37, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Soony Saad

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DYK for Soony Saad

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Ayreb2akel 5arahon bro

Bass heik. Ya3tikel3affie el.ziade (talkallam) 23:00, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@Elias Ziade: 3an min 3am te7ke? Nehme1499 07:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Fi7adan ballagh 3annak w ba3den 3anne 3al-Coi. Aratoune ban w sa7abo menne sala7iyet. El shakhes li ballagh 3anna 3amala houwwe wma msajjal du5ul. Bas maw2a3o-ip-b ka nada bzon 3refet min el mosta5dem. el.ziade (talkallam) 08:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

New section

Hi Nehme, congratulations for your work so far and keep it up!! You've probably noticed that I'm making new pages for football players in the Premier League of BiH, but since I don't have time and a lot of them were sent to "Draft" for references, could you fix something a little because you really know about it. Of course if it's not a problem User:Elektrotehnicar07 (talk) 17:48, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Domanda

Ciao Nehme, volevo porti una domanda. Tempo fa avevamo discusso sui criteri di enciclopedicità dei giocatori qui su enwiki e dalla pagina che mi hai linkato (Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues) risulta che chiunque abbia fatto almeno una presenze in uno di quei campionati professionisti, può avere una pagina. Ora, per quanto riguarda coloro che fanno delle presenze nelle competizioni europee (Champions, Europa League, Conference e fasi preliminari delle prime tre) vale la stessa regola? Grazie in anticipo e buon wikilavoro. --SonoGrazy (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Ciao, ormai il paletto di una partita in un campionato professionistico è desueto. Non ci sono più criteri automatici di enciclopedicità, bisogna avere più fonti attendibili che parlino del soggetto (WP:GNG). Nehme1499 09:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Ok, grazie. Quindi ad esempio, io potrei anche creare una pagina su un calciatore di Serie D, su cui magari sono presenti diverse fonte attendibili su di lui? --SonoGrazy (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@SonoGrazy: Sì, esatto. Basta che soddisfi GNG. Nehme1499 14:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations, Nehme1499! The list you nominated, List of Lebanon international footballers born outside Lebanon, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
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https://w.wiki/_wJmZ

See this Abazizfahad (talk) 00:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Categories

You create the category first and then add articles to it second, not vice versa. I have no way of being able to read your mind, so I don't know if you're actually creating the category immediately or if you're planning to just leave the redlink illegally loitering there for hours and hours like you did with the redlink on Joya Maria Azzi — but I must never, ever, ever look at any page and see any redlinked categories on it at all, because redlinked categories are disruptive to Wikipedia. So you create the category first, so that it's not a redlink when you add it to the page, because it's not my job to be able to read your mind about what you do or don't intend. Bearcat (talk) 13:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Wow mate, calm down! -- SuperJew (talk) 14:55, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Need a help regarding deleted pages

Bothering again, since you are semi-retired I am hesitant always. I need a little help with deleted page data. A lot happened in different Indian football articles between 2020-2023, and I was unable to response or edit since I was inactive for 2 years. India women u17 results, India u20 results & India u17 results were deleted per AfD. That's fine that they were deleted per consensus. But as you know these are statistical articles, and as I work mostly on statistics, these results and information are gold to me, which I have created and arranged with lot of effort and foolishly I did not keep any copy of these anywhere with me. Can the data be recovered or can I find the history of the page, or any sister page anywhere on web, from where I can get back those results and statistics, if so can you or anyone mail me, because I really need those results. Was going to ask @GiantSnowman:, but it seems he is on vacation. It will be a great help if I get those results and stats. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

@Drat8sub: Take a look at WP:REFUND. Nehme1499 20:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, hopefully will get the contents from there. Drat8sub (talk) 08:11, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Any prediction for the match

Hi, sorry to bother, it does not happen often that my country is facing the country of fellow wikipedian with whom I worked in various articles. Though not appropriate but still...So...quite excited what would be your prediction for the match. 2-0 or 2-1 India winning for me Drat8sub (talk) 13:41, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

@Drat8sub: hey, no worries. I think India will have the upper hand in the two games, considering they're playing at home and all. I believe we'll draw one game, and India will win one. I'm not feeling super confident about our team, especially in attack. Hope they prove me wrong. Nehme1499 13:45, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Honestly saying, I just want to see India converts the chances they make. India always plays good in midfield but final third is worse. We are worried about the finishing. 2 shot on goal out of 23 chances in last match, not a good scenerio for Asia Cup. Check for the player Chhangte and Sahal while watching, or Mahesh Singh and Apuia if get in as substitute, good players. I think Lebanon is not on full strength so far I know but Matar and Darwaich, these two players are exceptionally well.Drat8sub (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
@Drat8sub: Exactly as predicted, well deserved. Nehme1499 16:10, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
That's an intense match, both the team, we were just little better today. Truly speaking this is one the best match India played in last 1 decade. We are facing 3 more match again against Lebanon. Waiting for more drama in the pitch. SAFF...Merdeka...KingsCup waiting.. :) Drat8sub (talk) 16:14, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
@Drat8sub: Honestly, I don't remember ever seeing poorer displays from Lebanon than what I've seen in this tournament. We are not ready at all for the Asian Cup. Hopefully we sack this coach in time. Nehme1499 16:25, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

But I think Lebanon can surely get better, have very quality players, but I think the likes of Haider, Zein, Mansour aremissing. If want to sack the coach, then its now, otherwise a new coach just before Asia Cup for Lebanon will be disastrous.Drat8sub (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Hey, just read this, check this out, not a good sign, lack of financial support from the fed and experienced players not willing to join the NTcamps. That's why those players are not in the team !? I want to see a full strength Lebanon team in the SAFF, hope these players join, want to see how India perform against that Lebanon team. Drat8sub (talk) 04:51, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

2023 SAFF Championship

Hi, you have to stop putting the name of the stadium in links : the rules of Wikipedia are simple 2023 SAFF Championship. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking : Read the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking : Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead. Repeating the name of the same stadium in the same city is useless. Pindrice (talk) 09:54, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

@Pindrice: You wrote it yourself: it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in tables. It's convention to repeat links to the cities and stadiums in templates/tables: see 2022 FIFA World Cup#Group A, or any other major tournament. Nehme1499 10:57, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
This article is not an example : the fact to repaet bilions of time the SAME links is not helpul for the readers. It is purely useless. Don't add it. It is the same stadium by the way, completely useless to multiple the same links. Read the rules, and learn them.! Pindrice (talk) 11:01, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
This is the first and final warning ! Don't add them or I will report you ti the administrators Pindrice (talk) 11:03, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Who the hell do you think you are? "you have to stop", "this is the first and final warning"... calm down! It's convention to keep the links, don't be disruptive. Nehme1499 11:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
You are disruptive and completely. You don't know the rules, and you bypass them. I will report your behaviour and your overpassing of the rules Pindrice (talk) 11:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
You seem to not know the conventions, read the rules before saying something completely nonsense Pindrice (talk) 11:06, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
I read the rules, and quoted the relevant part above. Nehme1499 11:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Read better Pindrice (talk) 11:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
It what way it is helpul to REPEAT the same link ? Pindrice (talk) 11:09, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Omar Bugiel nationality

Omar Bugiel is Lebanese from birth since his father holds Lebanese nationality. This is jus sanguinis. See Lebanese nationality law. In 2017 he obtained a Lebanese passport, not the Lebanese nationality. Frenchl (talk) 13:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@Frenchl: I reverted back to your version as it's clearer. Though, having been born abroad the father would have had to complete the necessary paperwork to make Omar a Lebanese citizen. Lots of people "recuperate" their jus sanguinis nationality later in life. Jus sanguinis just means that their are "eligible" for citizenship upon birth, not they they are automatically citizens. Nehme1499 13:36, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
No, it is automatic at birth, there is no paperwork. Nationality is not a document. Frenchl (talk) 13:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
I am telling you from experience, paperwork is needed if you are born with another nationality (such as Bugiel being born German). Nehme1499 13:42, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Yes I made a mistake. I've checked some official texts and in Lebanon registration is needed. Jus sanguinis differs from a country to another, sometimes it's automatic, sometimes paperwork is mandatory. I apologize. Best regards. Frenchl (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Saff squads

Why are you deleting everything i do? Adothaddad (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Card information in football box

Template:Football box don't have card info mentioned in it. However, Template:Football box collapsible have the scope for adding card info atleast red cards which are rare. I can understand World Cups main pages don't have these info since supposed to be summarised but the information is put in details in sub pages. However, for small event like SAFF where sub pages are highly unlikely, is it not ok to put red card info since rare incidents. What do you think? Drat8sub (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

There is no consensus by the community about this, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 149#Red cards in national cups. Nehme1499 07:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Hmm, I can see, both the discussions seem futile. But however, it seems only one of the users was opposing the exclusion and rest all seems likely agreeing for inclusion. Except FIFA World Cup and continental tournament, where huge no. of matches are played, and highly competitive, red cards in matches are expected but in friendly tournament and small tournament red is a rare occurrence, and I think if sourced properly can be included, noting that one of the template have the sent off parameter. The user at the 2023 SAFF edition removed the sourced info twice for which I am not re-adding the card info, don't want to go in edit war, they have a tendency of edit war, but I think adding the card info is not harming the article anyway rather giving more insight. Drat8sub (talk) 07:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Request for review of a FLC Nom

I have nominated a List article at FLC, AIFF Player of the Year Awards. However, reviews by other editors have been done including the director at FLC Giants2008, I would still like to see you comments there. If you find something to be fixed, I will love to do that. Please give a quick look if you get time. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 07:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Removal

If some articles have unsourced material, you can add the template:Citation needed to them instead of removing all the contents like you did here. I'm in the process of restoring that part and adding the respective sources. So please, don't remove that content again. Thank you. Fma12 (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

@Fma12: Don't call the content removal "unexplained", when I stated pretty clearly that it was unsourced. As long as the content is sourced, I won't remove anything. Next time, though, practice in your own sandbox before making the edit live. Nehme1499 14:49, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
The decission of practising in my own sandbox is on me, not you. I call my edit "unexplained" when the real word should have been "vandalism" but I did not want to be so though. The history section has a lot of wikiliks that prove themselves the content is reliable so such removal was, at least, misguided. Fma12 (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
@Fma12: Removing unsourced content is not vandalism, keeping it is. Also, see WP:CIRCULAR. Do whatever you want, as long as there isn't a block of unsourced content. Nehme1499 15:15, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
As I said you before, you should have put the "citation needed" tag and then (if nobody added a source in a specific amount of time) remove the content. But you chose the easiest option, which was on the verge of vandalism. WP:CIRCULAR does not apply here so the sources were indicated in the articles linked. Nevertheless, I added them to the history article.
Next time, be more careful. Fma12 (talk) 15:23, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
By the way, you're pretty active to be "semi-retired" as your sign indicates above. Fma12 (talk) 15:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Juventus Next Gen

On 28 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Juventus Next Gen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Juventus's reserve team, Juventus U23, won their first trophy after only two years in existence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Juventus Next Gen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Juventus Next Gen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Sock tagging

Can I ask why you're tagging an IP as a sock-blocked account when that IP isn't blocked, has never been blocked, and isn't an account? firefly ( t · c ) 20:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Firefly: See this. It's the same guy as all these IPs. Nehme1499 20:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Okay... but why are you tagging them? We don't tag IP user pages at all - see WP:SOCKTAG under "IP addresses". The template states This account is a suspected sockpuppet of <master> and has been blocked indefinitely. Neither bolded portion of that statement is correct here. Please stop tagging these. firefly ( t · c ) 20:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@Firefly: I have been doing so based on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 162#Croatian IP, in which @GiantSnowman: came up with the idea to create Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sportski recenzist. Nehme1499 20:54, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
That is… not the best solution. If we think these IPs are being used by this person, the best place to handle that is SPI - where rangeblocks, among other solutions, can be considered and we can build a log of sockpuppets without misapplying sock tags for the purpose. firefly ( t · c ) 21:06, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: what do you think? Nehme1499 21:25, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
IPs have been tagged for years, there used to be a dedicated template for it at {{IPsock}}. Logging IP addresses used by a sock master over time helps build a picture of the range for a range block. GiantSnowman 07:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman Logging IP addresses used by a sock master over time helps build a picture of the range for a range block. I completely agree, but the best way to do that is at SPI where evidence can be presented and a case history built. There was indeed an {{IPsock}} template, but it was deleted at MfD after a discussion at the SPI clerks' noticeboard precisely because it isn't particularly useful and was being misused, and the consensus was that there are much better ways to handle IP socking.
In this case we have IPs scattered all over a bunch of /16s, many of which haven't edited since 2020, some of which have one edit in something like 2017. They're mostly Hrvatski Telekom ranges with some A1 Hrvatska thrown in - I know nothing about that ISP, but they evidently have very dynamic assignment patterns, which makes tagging the individual IPs even less useful unfortunately.
I think the best plan is to file a pro-forma SPI with the various ranges (I'll do that) for record keeping and so we can see if there's any benefit to rangeblocks (given the large ranges involved I am sceptical but haven't take a proper look) and then clean out the category (I'll do that once I've filed the SPI). firefly ( t · c ) 11:03, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

The article Lebanon women's national under-20 football team you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lebanon women's national under-20 football team for comments about the article, and Talk:Lebanon women's national under-20 football team/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Alanna the Brave -- Alanna the Brave (talk) 02:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Christmas

May you spend a happy Christmas and a happy new year. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 21:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

May you have a happy new year as well. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 12:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia in Lebanese

Hello @Nehme1499! I know you are no longer very active here, but I was just wondering if you would be interested in contributing to a version of Wikipedia in Lebanese (Levantine Arabic), which is in the Wikimedia Incubator now. There is renewed interest in this project, and even a small number of edits per month would make a big difference. Here is a brief intro in English. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 23:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Lebanon v Australia

Hey mate, Whenever you happen to drop in and see this. I was wondering why Lebanon chose to "host" their "home" game against Australia in Canberra (and not say Qatar or UAE) as this seems to give Australia a massive advantage (and tbh it's already quite a mismatch). Any insight? --SuperJew (talk) 08:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Khadra

Listen here. How is EFL more reliable when that very source page is currently non-accessible? And there are many sites that confirm his full name. What is this? Rubenaf16 (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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