Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ass cancer

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete and redirect to Anal cancer. There is near-unanimous agreement here that this (disambiguation) page should not exist, and as such this has closed as delete. That being said, however, I will be creating this once again as a redirect to Anal cancer. Numerous folks below suggest it, and especially given the history of this page, it's a reasonable WP:ATD. Redirects need not be 100% clear, they need not even be correct, they need to be useful. Only a couple of folks suggest it wouldn't be useful, but I don't find that argument persuasive, especially given the support for redirecting, the RfD, and the redirect's existence for over seven years. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ass cancer

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WP is not censored, but I don't see any reason to give credence to use of the term "ass cancer." I can't find any reliable sources using the term, certainly. Used as an internet joke/meme, but not a serious term which should be given a DAB. Anyone wondering about ass cancer can certainly think of synonym for ass. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 22:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with nom. It seems to be and internet joke/meme but I don't see any mentions of it or at least not to an extent that it warrants an article of its own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Butch.labajo (talk • contribs)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 02:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 02:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as agreed with nom. It is not claiming to be an article about the joke etc, it is trying to be humourous via acting as a normal disambig. Nosebagbear (talk) 08:30, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt. PamD 12:25, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt, it is not a serious article. Birdsgeek (talk) 14:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to anal cancer. None of the rest apply and thus not a good disambig. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:41, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doc James, Ozzie10aaaa, and SSSB: - You all suggested a redirect without stating a plausible reason why. Redirecting does not solve the issue that no reliable sources (or even unreliable ones) use "ass cancer" to refer to anal cancer in any serious way. Why is a redirect suitable? Ass being a synonym for anus is not a grounds for having a redirect. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:29, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"being a synonym" is a reason for a redirect. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:08, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ass is a synonym for buttocks as well. And for donkey. I don't think that argument holds water. TompaDompa (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I burst out laughing when I saw the name of the article; But Wikipedia ain't for jokes (no matter how hilarious)💵Money💵emoji💵^Talk 17:23, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to anal cancer (SSSB (talk) 17:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)) as anal cancer is the only link on Ass cancer which could potentially apply. SSSB (talk) 14:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Is it? Why couldn't colorectal cancer apply (especially rectal cancer)? Why couldn't cancer of the buttocks (be it skin cancer on the buttocks or soft-tissue sarcoma in the buttocks) apply? TompaDompa (talk) 15:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
redirect to anal cancer--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and WP:SALT. As no WP:RELIABLE sources use the term, a case could be made that it violates WP:DEL6 as a WP:Neologism. It could similarly be argued that it violates WP:DEL6 as it is WP:Original research that the phrase refers to any of the listed types of malignancy – indeed, a better case (based on usage in sources) could be made that it's a humorous term for flatulence.
I would strongly oppose redirecting to any of the articles on the disambiguation page (as has been suggested above, specifically to anal cancer) on the grounds that "ass cancer" is a broad anatomical description of the location of the tumour, whereas the different articles on the disambiguation page vary both in tumour location within the larger anatomical region and histopathological characteristics of the malignant disease itself. It would be like redirecting "neck cancer" to "esophageal cancer" (whereas it could be glottic cancer, or hypopharyngeal cancer, or malignant melanoma, or something else). Or to use a non-medical analogy: it would be like redirecting "native American culture" to "Inca culture" (could be Aztec culture, or Maya culture, or Navajo culture, or Inuit culture, or Sioux culture, or something else). TompaDompa (talk) 00:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as not used that is, it lacks meaningful usage; with no redirect. I agree entirely with TompaDompa about the problems with imprecision, which undoubtedly contributes to its lack of meaningful usage. --Bejnar (talk) 07:29, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I have several friends who had ass cancer in real life, and this page was instrumental in saving their lives, except one of my friends who died anyway, due to cancer of the ass.Captain Breakfast (talk) 14:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

While we don't deal in anecdotal evidence, see WP:Verifiability, I am curious how this page was instrumental in saving their lives. It seeems highly unlikely. I assume that they did not have colon cancer, as that would be inapposite. --Bejnar (talk) 23:20, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This poor attempt at trolling should just be more evidence that "ass cancer" is part of some sick internet joke. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per common sense. This is a joke. Gargleafg (talk) 22:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Due to lack of evidence of its usage in reliable sources. Wikipedia cannot establish new term for anything not found in sources. This looks like censorship of vulgar words but it is not, because the people calling for redirecting fail to show us the reliable sources that use the term. So this is cleanup of unverifiable internet culture stuff –Ammarpad (talk) 03:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:HOAX. Kirbanzo (talk) 18:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I created the current disambiguation version of this page after Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_October_8#Ass_cancer closed with no consensus, feeling that, per TompaDompa, that a disambiguation page was preferable to a misleading redirect. I would not be opposed to deleting, but calling it a WP:HOAX is a bit strong when a targeted google search returns 80,000 results and there are media sources ([1][2][3][4]) that use the term to refer to anal or colorectal cancers. Do I think that means that it is a notable enough term for Wikipedia? Of course not. But it's not a hoax. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm going to ping the other participants on the RfD (those that voted on both sides): @CFCF, Steel1943, Kablammo, Thryduulf, and BDD:. --Ahecht (TALK
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Keep. In the RfD I wrote "Disambiguate. Although this is often used in a juvenile way, it isn't only used in that manner. It's not an easy term to search for (I've been using "ass cancer" -wikipedia -"kick ass" -"dumb ass" -"fat ass" -"bad ass" (which will be removing some results I do want as well as those I don't). My findings are that it is used almost equally to mean colorectal cancer and anal cancer and also occasionally cancer in the buttocks (which can be one of at least two different types of cancer). Thryduulf (talk) 10:00, 9 October 2014 (UTC)" I've just done the same search again and found exactly the same findings. Thryduulf (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.