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List of awards and nominations received by Adele

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Nominator(s): Another Believer, FrB.TG 10:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In February 2009, this list was recognized as a featured list, only to be demoted a few months later. After that, the list went through several expansions; however, it never happened to be an FL. After a fair amount of work on List of awards and nominations received by Adele, a 10-time Grammy Award winner, and also the winner of an Academy Award, I and Another Believer reckon we are close to FL status. We promise to fix concerns as quickly as possible. Cheers to all reviewers. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT and Another Believer (Talk) 10:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support as nominator. Frankie talk 10:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well SNUGGUMS the list's got four supports (including yours), so it's okay to have another nomination open at least according to FLC Users should not add a second featured list nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed. Anyways thanks for noting it. :) -- Frankie talk 17:39, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just making sure. As for this article itself, I support and can't find any issues in it. Kudos to both you and Another Believer. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for another one! <3 Frankie talk 17:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from  — Calvin999
  • Shouldn't the name of this article be List of nominations and awards received by Adele? Because, technically, you receive a nomination before you win an award. Just seems a bit odd.
    • The list's title is consistent with similar lists (see Category:Lists of awards by musician). ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • I know it's consistent, but it just seems really odd. Because you have to be nominated in order to (maybe) win the award.  — Calvin999 17:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • If this discussion is to be continued, I think we should move it to Wikipedia:Featured lists or another venue, because it is not specific to this list of FL nomination. Personally, I am not bothered by the naming convention, but I see your point. Perhaps it is alphabetical (awards, nominations)? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
          • I do see your point, Calvin, and kinda agree with you, but as AB said maybe it's in alphabetical order. It might also be because of the preference of awards over nominations. I have seen articles giving awards more importance (in terms of mentioning) e.g. if an actress has received one Oscars out of five nominations they don't say that she was nominated for five Oscars, and won once, but one Oscars from five nominations. -- Frankie talk 19:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • She is the recipient of an Academy Award, a Golden Globe Award, 10 Grammy Awards, 13 Billboard Music Awards, and 4 awards each from the American Music and Brit award ceremonies. → Considering she is a British artist, I feel like emphasis should be placed on the British awards first, not the American. It's quite US centric, and the BRIT Awards is mentioned last in this sentence.
  • The song won the Academy Award, Critics' Choice Award and Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song, and a Grammy Award for Best Song Written for Visual Media. → Again, it won British Single of the Year, but this isn't included. As she is British, I'd like to see it included first.
  • An MBE isn't really an award, per se. It's an honour bestowed on someone and is apart of their title in the United Kingdom. I'm not really conformable with it being included in the lead and table. And I'm really uncomfortable with the MBE table saying "Result - Won", it's not like an awards ceremony whereby only one of five nominees can win.
    • Added a footnote. -- Frankie talk 19:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Where is the footnote? Also, it now says she got an OBE, but she didn't. She got an MBE. I don't think list is should include any mention of the honour. For me, it just doesn't fit.  — Calvin999 11:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • I added a footnote in the table; however, I removed that table. Anyway, I have removed the honor as it can be found in her biography. -- Frankie talk 12:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • to have won all four of the General Field ("Big four") → What are the big four?
    • Done. ---Another Believer (Talk)
      • It's slightly ambiguous. It implies, I believe, that she won all four in the same night? Or do you mean that over the course of her career, she is only the second artist to have won all four?  — Calvin999 17:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 2: BBC News needs linking, first time.

Aside from my comments, I think this is a fantastic list.  — Calvin999 16:27, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments Calvin999. I have resolved your remaining concerns. -- Frankie talk 19:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cassianto

Comments from Cassianto

In terms of comprehensiveness, this article is up there with the best of them. The illustrations are good, and the prose, albeit in the wrong tongue, is generally good. However, it is all in AmEng, and not BrEng, as it should be. Generally, the rules are that if the subject is American, then AmEng is the way to go. If the subject is British, then BrEng should be used. I'm not going to oppose just yet (per Wikipedia:Featured article criteria 1.a) and will allow some time for you to adjust. I would, of course, be willing to help you with this. Here are some thoughts in the meantime:

Lead section

  • "English singer-songwriter Adele..." -- As this is a British subject, the article hould really be written in BrEng. This opening line is the AmEng way of introducing a person. Using the definite article is certainly BrEng and should be used here and from herein.
  • There is no such thing as a "Member of the British Empire Medal award" and it's certainly not an award. I should take you to the tower for that and be cry "orf with his head!!"
  • "Adele signed a contract with record label XL Recordings" -- Definite article.
  • "Adele signed a contract with record label XL Recordings in September 2006, and ultimately won the BBC Sound of 2008." -- Did she win the BBC award as a result of her contract with XL Recordings? If not, I wouldn't use this conjunction as it sounds like she did.
  • "...which also garnered a MTV Video Music Award for Best Choreography nomination." -- plural here.
  • Why plural? It's a single nomination, isn't it?
  • "Adele's second studio album 21 was released in January 2011, and spent 24 weeks atop..." -- atop? Is that an Americanism?

AIM Independent Music Awards

  • Recognize is AmEng. Recognise would be more preferable.

ARIA Music Awards

  • ...again here.

Teen Choice Awards

  • honor → honour

Support -- CassiantoTalk 08:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers Cassianto. All sorted now; however, I am not an expert in that American-British thing. If you spot any other American word, feel free to change or mention it here. -- Frankie talk 09:49, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me, and I even learnt something there; I had no idea "Notes" was an American usage, with References being British. Oh, I copy edited the OBE line a little. For future, this is how it should be described. Could you elaborate as to which list she appeared in? I left a brief tag. CassiantoTalk 09:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I think this was also @Calvin999:'s concern, which has now been resolved. -- Frankie talk 10:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • I think you could use one box for the Oye! and Mercury Prize since its the same award, like you did on the Glamour Awards. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 11:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I'm not sure you need to use The When saying 'English singer-songwriter' it reads better without it in my opinion
  • I think it sounds more British. Also, it was added per Cassianto's suggestion.
Hmm, I'm not so sure myself, so I'll hold off on this one. If you're going down the British English route though, you'll need to make sure words such as recognize are changed to recognised where applicable. NapHit (talk) 19:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A few days before, I had changed them to British, but some were missed, which I have fixed now. -- Frankie talk 19:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a BT Digital Music Awards" you have a which implies singular and then awards which implies more than one. I assume she has only won one? So you need to change awards to award
  • "4 American Music Awards award ceremonies" not sure what purpose award ceremonies serves at the end of this sentence
  • I would add a bit more about the BBC sound of. Just so the reader can understand the significance of her winning it
  • Why was Hometown Glory nominated at the Grammys three years after its release?
  • Not really sure maybe because it was re-released. Anyway, I have omitted "three years later" to avoid confusion.
  • "Grammy Awards—Song of the Year" dash should be spaced either side not bunched within the text
  • "and the last two songs won Best Pop Solo Performance at two ceremonies of the award." This doesn't read smoothly at the moment. The last two songs is not encyclopaedic. I would make this a new sentence and introduce the two songs at the start, so it's clear what you're referring to. It's unclear what two ceremonies of the award means or refers to. Either way it's bad English and needs to be changed.
  • "In 2012, she released "Skyfall", a song used as the theme tune for a 2012 soundtrack of same name." Well not really. It was the title song of the film of the same name and as James Bond films are culturally well-known I think you should mention this instead of the soundtrack.

NapHit (talk) 17:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NapHit: Thank you for your suggestions. I have addressed them. -- Frankie talk 18:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support NapHit (talk) 11:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Littlecarmen (talk) 13:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Littlecarmen
  • The award ceremonies in the infobox table aren't all listed alphabetically. For example, AIM Independent Music Awards should come before American Music Awards and ARIA Music Awards should come before Arqiva Commercial Radio Awards.
  • The infobox also says that she's been nominated for one ARIA Music Award, but she's been nominated for two.
  • The infobox says she's been nominated for 25 Billboard Music Awards, but it's 25.
  • Maybe recount all awards and nominations.
  • There are some MOS:DASH violations in the references.
  • ref #48: Link Echo Deutscher Musikpreis.
  • ref #120 and 121: Mention that the sources are in Spanish.
  • ref #123: John Mellencamp publishes Billboard?
  • 1 disambiguation link

The list looks great otherwise! Littlecarmen (talk) 10:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Littlecarmen: I have fixed everything you have mentioned above. -- Frankie talk 10:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, NapHit and Little. :) -- Frankie talk 14:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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