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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of UEFA Champions League hat-tricks

Nominator(s): Atlantis77177 (talk) 12:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had nominated this article in 2022, but it failed the criterea due to an issue in the table formatting. Now, with that sorted, I believe thee article is ready to be nominated for a Featured List spot. Special thanks to @Sdkb and @WhatamIdoing for your guidance and contributions Atlantis77177 (talk) 12:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

Image captions which are complete sentences (which I think is all of them) need full stops -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Sorted--Atlantis77177 (talk) 13:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: I hope you are content with the list now--Atlantis77177 (talk) 16:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Atlantis77177: - at this point I have literally looked at nothing except the image captions. If I get a chance to look at the rest I will do so, but it would definitely not be accurate to say that I am "content with the list now" simply because full stops have been added to the image captions -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I perfectly understand you @ChrisTheDude:. I just wanted to let you know that the problem has been sorted. Besides, this archive has been dead for like 2 weeks--Atlantis77177 (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"Ronaldo for Real against Bayern on 18 April and Atlético Madrid on 2 May 2017, the shortest gap between hat-tricks at just 14 days." – not a complete independent clause
"first teenager to score a hat-trick on his debut" – not sourced (the lead says he was the youngest, but other teenagers could have come before him)
If ref. 7 is "as of 29 November 2023", the access date should be on or after that date
- Looks like you fixed this in one spot but not another? Refs. 7 and 23 are now the same link and should be combined with the new date (ref. 23 is the one where the access date actually matters). RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following names sort incorrectly: van Basten, Cole (1), Inzaghi (1), van Persie
Use headers in table for multiple hat-tricks by player and by club
No need for UEFA Champions League as a "See also" link (it's used in the article)

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RunningTiger123: Could you explain the header point more. I didn't get it. Rest sorted. And thanks for pointing out the Rooney one. Seems, he wasn't a teen when he scored.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hat-tricks by nationality use cells with headers (they start with ! instead of |) – the tables by player and by club should do the same. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RunningTiger123: Sorted.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 03:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Image captions could have a "(pictured in xyz)" where xyz is the year, at least when the photo isn't from the era of the hat-trick. If it is within 10 years of any particular hat-trick, its probably ok.
Most folk seem to use the abbreviation template for "Ref." I don't know if that's a deal-breaker though.
Add a header for the main table. Wrap it in the sronly template, if you don't think it needs to be shown. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MPGuy2824: I'm not entirely sure what you meant for the last 2. Could you check if the problem is sorted.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 09:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The caption format needs to be changed to "Name (pictured in xyz) ..." where that phrase is mentioned
I've done this.
You've added "Hatricks Scored in the UEFA Champions League". This is what I meant. The word "scored" should be in lowercase though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MPGuy2824: Done.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 15:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the key table "Number of times player scored a hat-trick" isn't exactly right. It is a number showing that Player X did their n-th hattrick then. I'm struggling to put this in simple words that can be used in the key table though. I think you'll be to find the right words, so I support this list on prose and table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MPGuy2824: I have a few lines. not sure what to select. Personally, I believe the original line explains it best. But here are some of the others.

The player's hat-trick sequence. (Only for players who scored multiple hattricks.)
The count of the hat tricks scored by the player. (Only for players who scored multiple hattricks.)--Atlantis77177 (talk) 11:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In cricket FL's (e.g. List of Indian Premier League five-wicket hauls and List of Indian Premier League centuries), I've seen (1/2) or (2/3) being used, with no entry in the key table. See if that works better. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MPGuy2824: Done.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 14:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I've already supported promotion. If interest and time permit, please take a look at my FL nom. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The lead is too long, I would cut some content. I don't think you need to list all 12 players with two hat-tricks or all 13 players to score four in a game. Cut that and then combine into fewer paragraphs.
"Four other players have scored multiple hat-tricks in the same season: Messi for Barcelona in both 2011–12,[11] and again in 2016–17, Gómez for Bayern, also in 2011–12, Lewandowski scored two hat-tricks for Bayern in 2021–22, and Benzema did so for Real in the same season." - this does not make grammatical sense as one sentence. Personally I think it should be split into two sentences. Also "in both 2011–12, and again in 2016–17" should be either "in both 2011–12 and 2016–17" or "in 2011–12 and again in 2016–17" but not what you have currently.
"The youngest scorer of a hat-trick was Raúl" vs "The oldest scorer of a hat-trick is Benzema" - why the different tenses?
"none were scored in 1994–95 and 2001–02 editions" => "none were scored in the 1994–95 and 2001–02 editions"
The superscript 4 is shown before the brackets for all players except Ronaldo
That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: Done.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 04:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoted. --Pres N 21:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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