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Category:Parapublic

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Parapublic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Vaguely defined category which poorly describes the nature of the subcategories. No corresponding article; only a disambiguation page improperly formatted disambiguation page which I have converted to a Wiktionary redirect. Paul_012 (talk) 18:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Without a clear main article there is no inclusion criteria and the current cat does not aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I'd say RevelationDirect is right. --Just N. (talk) 19:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Parents of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (and misc.)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 22#Category:Parents of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (and misc.)

Category:Wikipedia categories named after Prime Ministers of India (and misc.)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 22#Category:Wikipedia categories named after Prime Ministers of India (and misc.)

Category:London Sketch Club

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 22:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:London Sketch Club
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:TRIVIALCAT & WP:OVERLAPCAT)
The London Sketch Club is a gentlemen's club in London, one of the many targeting different occupations, in this case for members in graphic arts. The biography articles tend to mention this association just in passing and are generally already in categories like Category:British illustrators and Category:Punch (magazine) cartoonists. The club has remained a social in nature and doesn't seem to have morphed into a prestigious learned society. I listified the category contents right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Background We previously deleted membership categories for other London gentlemen's clubs here, here, and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This category points at cultural history of more than 100 years ago. So the hint at Included in e.g. Category:British illustrators is leading astray. As British illustrators our users would surely prefer to have illustrators of their lifetime per category navigation. As the number of entries is easy to grasp it is certainly no harm to keep it. --Just N. (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ―Qwerfjkltalk 09:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listify and delete -- membership of a club is not defining. If the club was significant as a point of contact between illustrators, the appropriate way to show that is through a list. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:38, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Arizona Complex League

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename per nom. bibliomaniac15 05:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dmoore5556 (talk · contribs) moved the page Arizona League to Arizona Complex League, stating: Minor League Baseball has renamed the Arizona League as the Arizona Complex League. If a citation is added then these can be processed speedily. – Fayenatic London 21:51, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fayenatic london, the new names of the Rookie-level leagues in Minor League Baseball can be seen on the official website here. Along with Arizona League --> Arizona Complex League, the other league renamed was Gulf Coast League --> Florida Complex League. I would suggest not renaming "Defunct" categories, as the leagues listed there existed and went defunct only under the old naming. Dmoore5556 (talk) 01:38, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Dmoore5556. I thought about excluding the "Defunct" category, but (i) one existing member already has the name "Arizona Complex League White Sox", and (ii) if/when any current teams become defunct, we don't want to set up a separate Defunct teams category for the current league name. We could certainly redirect the old name, though. – Fayenatic London 08:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would also suggest not including the defunct category as those teams went defunct under the old league.. the inclusion of the White Sox article in there is a mistake as that team is NOT defunct. Spanneraol (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see, that team is in both the main and defunct categories, because of the predecessor franchise by that name in 1998–2002.[1] Well, I have no objection to keeping that category, then. It might be useful to add a redirect at the above target name, with an entry on the talk page linking to this discussion, to reduce the probability of it being speedily moved later. – Fayenatic London 07:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom and C2C. --Just N. (talk) 13:34, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ―Qwerfjkltalk 09:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- If a league is renamed, but is essentially the same thing, we should not have categories for the new name. The precedent for this is alumni categories for merged and renamed colleges, where WP deems alumni to have attended the present college. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1980s Japanese superhero films

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge all. bibliomaniac15 05:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not enough content. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge also to Category:Japanese superhero films and also nominate the 1960s and 1970s siblings. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment One article is a SMALLCAT and leaves no choice. Although I'm in doubt if there aren't a lot more of these films but nobody has translated them into English? Any Japanese-speaking Wikipedian available to check that? The US and Japan are the motherlands of superhero films aren't they? --Just N. (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: adding siblings and other merge targets to nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 09:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I have just tagged the talk pages with more projects, which may draw more participation. – Fayenatic London 22:15, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:English people of Manchu descent

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. The category has been emptied. bibliomaniac15 22:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now Doesn't currently aid navigation; no objection to recreating later if it ever gets to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: the Alex Hua Tian article does not say a word about him being of Manchu descent, and neither does the source quoted for his family background. Is this a guess based on last name or else? Place Clichy (talk) 02:38, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair point, I removed him from two Manchu categories. The nominated category is empty now. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women in Hindu mythology

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: not merged. bibliomaniac15 22:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:GHETTO, the parents - Category:Characters in Hindu mythology, Category:Characters in Irish mythology and Category:Characters in Chinese mythology respectively - are not (and are unlikely to become) a container category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No reason to merge characters from multiple mythologies into a single category. Dimadick (talk) 20:25, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose distinct mythologies.Redtigerxyz Talk 11:52, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom; these don't appear to be particularly helpful cross-categorisations. In any case, they should be marked as non-diffusing subcategories and the articles also included in the parents. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- I cannot believe that Hindu and Irish mythology have no more than one woman worthy of an article. The Chinese item is well enough populated to survive anyway. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:49, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that SMALLCAT is not the rationale of this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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