Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westland Hialeah High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. Nabla 20:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Westland Hialeah High School

High school that isn't even built yet, has no sources, and has no significant notability. SierraSix 06:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Ummm... source is right here [1] and here [2], and also, here's the school's boundary reallignment clearly stating its opening date [3]... I mean, we can't get much more accurate than the school district, right? Also, campus is already built, it just won't open until the next school year. Also, voting keep -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 06:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I second that keep vote. I also expect the school to have a significant impact on the community. -- Seed 2.0 09:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep no point deleting it and then redoing it when the school actually opens Guycalledryan 09:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment — In the past the precedent has been to delete articles about schools that haven't opened. — RJH (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
delete Not only are there WP:CRYSTAL issues, but an unopened school doesn't even have the minimal claims of notability that others might. The school has no notable almuni, no notable students who have performed notability at a national or even state level or anything else. Why? Because it doesn't even exist yet. JoshuaZ 18:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, I don't really see a reason to delete an article only to have it recreated at DRV at the beginning (or end) of the school year. And, frankly, I don't see any WP:CRYSTAL issues. I guess, I'm trying to say I'm confused. Do you suggest we delete the article for a technical policy violation or do you have reason to believe that it's not notable? In the latter case, as someone who is pretty familiar with the area, I can say with confidence that the school will be sufficiently notable shortly after it's opened, even without any notable alumni. (I'm not trying to rehash "schools are automatically notable" vs. "are not" vs. "are too" for the umpteenth time - I'm just genuinely confused.) -- Seed 2.0 20:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comment -- Well, if that's the case, then we could just delete it and restore it again in August. I made the article mostly to complete of the full set of high school articles attached to the district page here, seeing as the school just finished construction this week, its administration is already setup and running at the campus of Reagan/Doral High School, it already has an enrollment from local middle schools setup, and most teachers have been hired, but if that's the consensus then we can just restore it again on August 14. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 18:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep. Has sources, and the article is in a fine state in anticipation of the opening of the school. There's no reason to delete it for a few months while we wait for it to open. — brighterorange (talk) 20:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It has sources and it's an important page for the Miami-Dade public schools system.Skillz187 21:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The school district web site is not an independent source. For one thing, the school district owns this place. I'd accept it for the boundary line. . It's the very example of indiscriminate--it must list all of the schools, notable or not. If you seriously intend to keep school district websites as usable for their schools, that is exactly the same in effect as accept all schools as notable. DGG 00:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment School districts are government agencies, not private companies out for public self-promotion; and where else would you find neutral information about schools other than school district websites? Your comments suggest that the information is being taken from some public relations website and not just standard information from government maintained webpage such as a school district. Should we also bar anything that the Library of Congress gives about White House History, seeing as... they... as the government, own the place? -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 03:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Butseriouslyfolks 04:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.