Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools

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Primary and secondary schools

Sarah Junior School

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PROD countered. Per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, articles about primary schools are only kept if they can be shown to meet WP:NORG. That is not the case here. Indeed, this is an article about a kindergarten. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep It is also a story about a UK-based charity. I added a few references. Hopefully just enough to save this story.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 04:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British School of Brasília

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Article created by a clear WP:COI editor and fails WP:GNG, and WP:NSCHOOL. Redirect to British Schools foundation may be on the cards, but that article has notability concerns as well. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Doesn't have relevance or significant coverage. Svartner (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British International School of Kuala Lumpur

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Article was AfDed in 2014 and closed as no consensus per a part WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES which subsequently was repealed in 2017. Since the previous nom, no new sources have come to light. Probably best if we redirect to Nord Anglia Education. Allan Nonymous (talk) 04:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with the redirect to Nord Anglia Education. Bduke (talk) 05:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

School of Computing and Information Sciences, Saint Louis University, Baguio

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Non-notable subject. May need to be redirected to Saint Louis University (Philippines). Sanglahi86 (talk) 01:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Saint_Louis_University_(Philippines)#Academics per WP:ATD --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

La Côte International School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, and WP:GNG. Only thing I could find in a search was a press release. Heck, it's not even the most notable LCIS school out there. Allan Nonymous (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If sources aren't found, one could redirect either to Aubonne (locality) or to Nord Anglia Education (operator) though I think locality may be better. I'd have to check if Swiss newspapers covered this subject... WhisperToMe (talk) 04:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charter Vocational High School

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Moritoriko (talk · contribs) attempted to nominate this article for deletion, but accidentially nominated the talk page instead. Their original rationale follows:

This school seems to fail WP:NORG and really all of WP:N as well. Oddly enough in my research to check if reached notability I found https://web.archive.org/web/20090315093609/http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/217375/state_warns_2_albuquerque_charter_schools__boards_could_face/index.html which *might* be enough for Danny Moon to get his own page but I still feel like the school is ancillary in all this.

My involvement in this nomination is entirely procedural; I have no opinion or further comment at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OMG, thanks I must have not been paying attention when checking if there was any prior discussion on the talk page. Moritoriko (talk) 23:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wesley Grammar School

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Content of article has been significantly expanded since previous nom but no citations have been added that demonstrate WP:NSCHOOL has been met. Since the previous AfD closed as draftify the article creator has moved it to mainspace twice without addressing or discussing the notability issue. Triptothecottage (talk) 05:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ping @Rich Smith, @FatCat96, @Aydoh8, @Indefensible and @GraziePrego who participated previously, and @Liz who draftified for the second time. Triptothecottage (talk) 05:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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● Delete: I Have added some sources but they are mostly either unreliable, or don't have significant coverage. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources are interviews and not online sources. Thus, references were not attached. Samuel Ola (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiews are a primary source, in order for the article to be kept we need "significant coverage from reliable secondary sources". 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 13:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep There is a distinct lack of sourcing on the page, but we are told it was established in 1956 so this is a well established school, and this is born out by having an active old students association (WESGOSA) which helps verify several notable alumni already listed, including the first lady of Ghana [1]. So this is a school with significant notable alumni. It is also the case study school in this Ph.D. thesis [2] on learning styles and academic performance in Biology. This study [3] also uses the school as the experimental group in their study on teaching trigonometry. Although the secondary information about the schools in these studies is limited, they do add to the case that the school is significant, well established and of note within the community. There is also a lot of news paper coverage, as noted above. Those are primary sources. What remains lacking at this point is a good secondary source that verifies the information already on the page. If we had that, this would be a clear keep. I have not found that yet, but I think there is a suitable case, based on the notable alumni, the active old student association, and the academic references, to argue this crosses the line. (ETA: We do have this history, from a newspaper, written on the occasion of the school being 50 years old. [4] )Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - for me there just are not enough suitable sources for !keep. I agree one might think there are sources for a school of this age, however I do not think we can move from draft without suitable sourcing. Given that it has moved back and forth from draft to main, it seems like the best option is !delete until such time someone can rewrite with sufficient sources to satisfy the AfC process. JMWt (talk) 11:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually yes, I had not spotted that draft back-and-forth. Perhaps the performer of the move can comment. On the basis of the lack of in page sourcing yet repeat moving to mainspace (making draftify unavailable as an ATD) I would be inclined to move to delete pending some explanation on that. Is there a redirect ATD available? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Samuel Ola: Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Given the history, I would like a stronger consensus. Should that end up in delete/draftify, a promise to respect consensus would also be ideal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universities and colleges

Taxila Business School

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Feels that it doesnt meets NCORP, even before search returns routine coverage. Was declined twice before moved by page creator. Toadette^Edit! 09:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - This is fact does NOT meet NCORP. References are not reliable. I also did a BEFORE and found that all the press is NEWSORGINDIA so likely an attempt to game the system through paid media. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:NCORP no reliable sources, Majorly WP:NEWSORGINDIA citations. Grabup (talk) 06:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government Elementary Teacher Education Institution

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I cannot find any notable reference to this establishment online. It is not clear from https://dhe.odisha.gov.in/government-colleges/list-of-govt-colleges/teacher-education-institutes that there is still a teacher training establishment of that name in Chikitigada. However, https://www.shiksha.com/college/government-elementary-teacher-education-institution-chikiti-ganjam-94787/questions indicates that there is - but it looks like it only offers 50 places each year? So - confusing, but nothing notable. Newhaven lad (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yemen University

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I know it is unusual to delete a University - but I cannot find any online information about the University (except the bare fact that it is on Yemeni University lists - although I am not sure how old these lists are). It appears no longer to have a website. Links are either not orking or provide no helpful info. No obvious lkinks to anything else. The wiki page suggests the unbioversity is strong in nutrition - but https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9517972/ suggests it is not on the 2022 list of Yemeni universities awarding decrees in nutrition. Perhaps it has changed its name or amalgamated? Newhaven lad (talk) 09:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The article is entirely unsourced (general external links are used as reference) and filled with original research. Before reaching a conclusion whether to delete or keep I think it'd be fair if someone draftified it and use sources then we could've judged it based on it's merit. But if it stands as is, then delete seems impending. X (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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University of Information Science and Technology "St. Paul The Apostle"

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The article states they have 375 students, which is not a university. Many of the claims look too much, and none are verified. From their own web page the number of faculty is very small. Making a Beowulf cluster is not notable. More significant coverage is needed, this fails almost everything. Ldm1954 (talk) 00:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment State universities and colleges tend to be notable, although this is a comparatively minor vocational one. It appears reasonably likely that WP:SOURCESEXIST, but searching in Cyrillic is difficult for many of us. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Undecided. Universities are normally notable, although even by North Macedonian standards this one appears to be quite small (the other public universities in North Macedonia for which we have articles each have more than 10 times as many students as this one). Yes, searching in Macedonian is difficult for us here, but the article in the Macedonian Wikipedia isn't that much better. At worst, though, redirect to List of universities in North Macedonia rather than deleting this article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. We have generally kept universities founded by statute. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Based on what policy? The Banner talk 18:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Seconding the policy question. Also, as I stated in the original nomination, I could not verify the claims -- maybe someone else can. For instance, I am doubtful about all the claimed collaborations with universities many times their size, the 14 BA & MA degrees, the ranking. I could not verify any of these. It is easy to write on a web page, but normally we look for verifiability, WP:N. Ldm1954 (talk) 19:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Based on WP:CONSENSUS over many AfDs. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, I am asking for a policy. Not for a circular reasoning. The Banner talk 23:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yup, that policy would be WP:CONSENSUS! -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I am still asking for a policy that says specifically that we are keeping "universities founded by statute". WP:CONSENSUS does not state that. And saying that we keep universities because we kept universities in the past because we kept universities in the past etc. is a circular reasoning. Not based on any policy. The Banner talk 17:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- the top level polytechnic of a nation that was founded by the national government is a notable act in itself. There are numerous US institutions with fewer undergraduates (Caltech) or even 1/10th of the total number of students (Deep Springs College) that are notable, so the size of the institution isn't a determining factor; the significance of the institution to a nation's identity is a glimpse at the importance to a people. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 10:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two points:

Please check your numbers, you are way off. Caltech has close to 3 times (1023) the number of undergrads per year, to compare to the total number of 357 for both BS & MS, plus Caltech admitted 1440 grads. https://registrar.caltech.edu/records/enrollment-statistics

You ignored the key point -- essentially nothing on this Wikipedia page is verifiable. The Deep Springs College page has 37 sources, plus stacks of other material that verifies notability.

I politely request that you demonstrate their notability if you want to defend them. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral If we are to evaluate only based on the inserted references, then this fails every notability guideline, but if sources in foreign (local) language exist, and are promptly introduced, then things could change. I feel it's necessary that someone with proficiency in the local language performs some searches and shares the results. X (talk) 19:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed Ldm1954 (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of universities in North Macedonia until proper sourcing can be identified. JoelleJay (talk) 21:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete with no prejudice against recreation if sources become available. I conducted some searches in Macedonian but failed to locate significant secondary source coverage. Right now we are doing no service to our readers by having an article unsupported by sources making various dubious claims. AusLondonder (talk) 10:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Redirection to List of universities in North Macedonia is an excellent alternative to deletion. I'm on the fence as far as independent notability, leaning very very slightly on the keep side, essentially per the argument of Necrothesp. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Simply stating we have kept other articles is not an argument. AusLondonder (talk) 14:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

School or university organisations proposed for deletion

To check articles which are being proposed for deletion search by date at Category:Proposed deletion or see the summary of PRODs at User:DumbBOT/ProdSummary. It is common to find schools of all types on this list.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools

Primary and secondary schools

Sarah Junior School

British School of Brasília

British International School of Kuala Lumpur

School of Computing and Information Sciences, Saint Louis University, Baguio

La Côte International School

Charter Vocational High School

Wesley Grammar School

Universities and colleges

Taxila Business School

Government Elementary Teacher Education Institution

Yemen University

University of Information Science and Technology "St. Paul The Apostle"

Other school or university articles

List of Webster University campus locations

Saugeen Stripper

ORCA Grant

Centre for India & Global Business

University of Colorado Physical Therapy Program

School or university organisations proposed for deletion