Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert C. Bush Jr.

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:30, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert C. Bush Jr.

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Fails WP:GNG. Cited to database entries and non-independent coverage (PR and interviews). ~ A412 ^talk! 20:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and United States of America. ~ A412 ^talk! 20:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Law, United Arab Emirates, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Virginia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Zero sourcing for Mr. Bush, but I swear we've had an AfD for the NBA coffee company in the past... Regardless, there is no sourcing in the article we can use now, it's all PR items or simple confirmation of financing or positions held, with nothing extensive used as sourcing. Delete for a lack of sourcing, non-RS used and none found otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 20:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There is coverage in major news outlets including CNN, Bloomberg, Fox, LA Times and CNBC. These sources are all considered reliable on Wikipedia and are in the article. This should be enough for Bush to be considered notable according to Wikipedia rules. The most notable thing is that he's the co-founder and CEO of the Mutombo Coffee brand with NBA Hall of Famer Dikembe Mutombo. He was also the Managing Director of the investment company of HH Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashad al Maktoum, the Ruler of Dubai and Prime Minister of the UAE and this can be verified directly in available UAE government sources. Additionally, he's the co-Founder of Marco polo network which was one of the first distributed ledger technology-powered platform designed to provide digital trade and payment services to the emerging markets. That is why it was bought by the World Bank. Atonvera (talk) 12:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Atonvera, you will want to review the provisions of WP:SIGCOV, which holds that "significant coverage" must addresses the subject directly and in detail. Mere namedrops or one-sentence mentions don't qualify, even if they come from CNN or the Los Angeles Times. Items that are press releases are explicitly excluded. Interviews with the subject are explicitly excluded. Notability based on being connected with a notable subject is explicitly disallowed. Being the co-founder of something, even if that something is notable in its own right, does not in of itself qualify. Ravenswing 15:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He was also the the first black president of the student body at Amherst College and also served as Managing director, foreign investment and private equity advisor to Istithmar PJSC, an investment firm owned by the Dubai government. Don't you think being an opinion writer for Forbes is noteworthy? Atonvera (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Nor is being the first black president of a student body, nor is being an investment advisor. Our standards rest on WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV, not on "That sounds to me like it's important." Ravenswing 10:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He also spoke in front of thousands of people right before the Mayor of New Orleans. Atonvera (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I agree with Oaktree b that the provided sourcing is a bunch of press releases, primary sources, namedrops and casual mentions, nothing which meets the standards of WP:SIGCOV to the subject. Ravenswing 14:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. No WP: SIGCOV Otuọcha (talk) 05:00, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – fails notability guidelines; sources in the article are either unreliable or does not address the subject in details or is significantly covered. No reliable sources online. Also noting the WP:CITEBOMB supporting certain citations. Toadette ^{(Let's discuss together!)} 06:22, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SIGCOV and in accordance with Ravenswing. An interview or a few social media posts here, a fancy-sounding yet common title there paid for someone's oil and/or tax dollars, a notable client yonder, do not allow any living person to inherit notability, or otherwise half the folks in my family would get Wikipedia articles. Those are my policy-based arguments; in addition, he very badly fails my longstanding and recognized guidelines are notability of attorneys. I've seen this type of person's page before and they always, 100% of the time, get deleted. I do not see consensus changing anytime soon. In 2007, an argument could be made to oppose deletion, but in 2024, everyone at least vaguely knows the Wikipedia rules for notability. Suggest permanent deletion of this poorly designed resume. Bearian (talk) 14:37, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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