Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/QI (A series) (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 06:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

QI (A series)

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Per the same rationale as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/QI (A series) (closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination). The page contains listcruft, fancruft, original research, unsubstantiated editorial notes and just about every minute detail of the A series of QI that exists. There is no useful information here that is not already included at List of QI episodes and/or QI and there are no sources (other than primary sources for broadcast dates) which show the subject meets WP:GNG. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 00:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 01:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 01:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 01:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Is QI (A series) substantially worse than QI (B series), etc. in some way? It seems odd that we might delete a list for one season while retaining a dozen or so similar lists for the same TV programme. Pburka (talk) 02:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I planned to nominate just this article first, and then if it was deleted I would nominate the other series articles. I also mentioned in the first AfD that I was moving a lot of this stuff over to the Wikia for QI (e.g. [1][2]), so I'd either have to do all that stuff before the AfD for the other 11 series closed or request the content to be userfied. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 02:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. If you want to list the B series episodes as well, this would go for that page also. There's already a list of episodes for the series and I don't really see where we need a blow-by-blow account of each episode, complete with trivia. It looks like there are multiple pages like this for each season and I don't see where we need those either- that's the type of fancruft that's better suited for a fan wikia than on Wikipedia. I mean, we don't do this for other game shows like Jeopardy or Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (or even detailed accounts for other game shows), so I don't know why this particular series requires this amount of detail (aside from the overall episode list page) either. It's not really like a season page for a drama series, where there's actual merit in summarizing the plot for that season. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:32, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep For much the same reasons that I gave at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of QI episodes. I agree with the nominator that this page contains far too much indiscriminate information, but deleting the entire article just strikes me as throwing the baby out with the bathwater. An article on the first series of QI is definitely one that Wikipedia should have, so I don't believe that deletion is the way forward. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  @A Thousand Doors: I don't want to badger you, but I'd like to know exactly what information you think should be included here. I think it's indisputable that the page contains too much detail, but if I were to chuck out the things that I think are excessive, I don't think there'd be much of an article left. Just the lead, the broadcast dates, the infobox and... that's it. Possibly the panellists in each episode are notable; I think the scores are just listcruft but you might disagree. But even then, it's just duplicated content from List of QI episodes and List of QI panellists. There's nothing wrong with a bit of overlap but the only unique thing in QI (A series) would be File:QI Complete Series 1 DVD.jpg. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 15:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. List relies entirely on primary sources and original research. Pburka (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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