Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Panther athletics

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Midlothian High School (Texas). Note: This applies only to those information that can be salvaged into this article. It is not a classical merge, rather a "take those few bits that are worth saving and delete the rest"-merge. The result here was "delete but merge relevant information", so I closed it as merge which is the nearest possible one-word-option. Regards SoWhy 09:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Panther athletics

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The school (whichever one it is) may be notable, but this article is nothing more than a list of its athletic achievements. Non-notable, fails WP:ATHLETE. ukexpat (talk) 14:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Wiki is not an indiscriminate collection of information.--Boffob (talk) 14:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - as above - also, by naming specific individuals, seems to be being used as a 'personal' web page (WP:NOTWEBHOST/WP:NOT#NEWS) CultureDrone (talk) 15:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Wikipedia is not a substitute for the trophy case. I suppose some of this could be mentioned in Midlothian High School (Texas), but I would oppose a merge directive. Mandsford (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This article doesn't even come close to passing the guidelines, this is not the place for personal info about the college and its achievements, only if its notable, and in this case it is not.

HairyPerry 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Midlothian High School Panthers, then merge to Midlothian High School (Texas), where it can be mentioned in context of the school. Panther athletics can then be deleted with no harm nor foul. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I don't have a problem with moving this information into a sub article of the school. But this information is notable and encyclopedic. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: All sources but one are for scores and playoff brackets. The one mentions a particular person (not mentioning the school) who got amnesia following a wrestling match. I do not believe that demonstrates notability for Panther Athletics. DoubleBlue (Talk) 03:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment In looking at the article history, I note that we have a new editor whose first project has been to create the article about the high school. With that in mind, I'll apologize to BWShoes now for any comments I've made that have been harsh. New contributors should always be welcomed, and it takes some time to become acquainted with Wikipedia's many rules. No matter how long we've been here, all of us sharpen our writing skills as we go along. I think that the work by BWshoes on the article about the high school has been great so far, with mention made of various aspects of MHS. It appears also that the section about the school's athletic achievements got disproportionately large, and that it was then spun off into this particular article. Finally, I suspect that there have been other people -- could be a well-meaning teacher, perhaps some friends -- who told the editor that he "has to" or "ought to" include all of the area and regional achievements, perhaps on some misguided notion that it would hurt someone's feelings if they were left off. After being pressured to include everything (or at least back to the last 20 years in a 68 year old high school), what started as a concise article has gotten out of hand. Well, you're under no obligation to put all this information in, and if you merge some of the stuff back, as DoubleBlue suggests for an option, you're under no obligation to merge all of it back. Stay with your original goal of a balanced, concise article about Midlothian High, without trying to please everyone. If they think that more should be added, let them take the heat for it. Like the sign says, it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Mandsford (talk) 03:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - if the article is kept, it needs some radical pruning / editing to remove personal names etc. CultureDrone (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to the high school, but do NOT REDIRECT. Panther Athletics redirecting to a high school would be rather absurd, giving that there are D1 teams with the nickname that are much more likely search terms. matt91486 (talk) 23:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• merge to the school. Agree with no redirect--lots of other more notable schools and programs have the name "panther" and it would be inappropriate to redirect.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. I believe it is possible for an admin to do a history merge that would permit the unusual deletion of the source article under GFDL rules. DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:15, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.