Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of open access repositories in India

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:05, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of open access repositories in India

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Wikipedia is not a directory. The list consists of a bunch of websites of non notable repositories. More of a project for Wikiversity Ajf773 (talk) 20:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reasons:[reply]

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Keep - Looking at the two policies that would seem to apply, WP:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and WP:Directory (specifically, points 1, 4 and 7), I don't this really violates those. These are lists of open repositories of information. I wouldn't call that "loosely associated topics" in any way. They are pointers to other reference materials. My take is that the policies are designed to prevent business listings, pure statistics, current events listings, and the like. While we need to be careful with the criteria, I feel this topics are acceptable for an encyclopedia. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about WP:NOTLINKFARM? Ajf773 (talk) 10:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep Croatia~~ Since others make up these kinds of lists, the idea presented is not original research, and the list is compliant. The list for India and Africa appears to be a copyright infringement of http://www.opendoar.org/countrylist.php?cContinent=Asia, which only allows its data under a Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike license. so delete List of open access repositories in India and List of open access repositories in Africa. Strange this did not show when I reviewed the Africa page but does now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also delete List of open access repositories in Australia as a copyright infringement of http://www.opendoar.org/countrylist.php?cContinent=Australasia, delete List of open access repositories in the Americas and List of open access repositories in Canada copying http://www.opendoar.org/countrylist.php?cContinent=North%20America Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm struggling to understand how Croatia is different? The nature of the list is exactly the same, lists of websites where each list entry has no established notability, not even mentioned in most of the educational institutes either. Ajf773 (talk) 10:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all per WP:CIL and per nom, non encyclopedic content per WP:NOTDIR. @Graeme Bartlett: I believe Croatia is also copyright of this. --Muhandes (talk) 10:31, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig thinks Croatia are different enough, but on eyeballing it would also be a list copyright violation. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all. Reason 1: The reuse of OpenDOAR content is not a copyright violation. According to the OpenDOAR official website: "OpenDOAR's data is available for re-use under a Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike license." Under the CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 license "you are free to: [1] Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format. [2] Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material." Reason 2: This list is similar to the List of libraries in India; List of institutions of higher education in India (part of the broader Education in India); and List of archives in India. All function as enriched directories with contextualizing wikilinks. -- Oa01 (talk) 19:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Reason 3: The wikified, sortable list is fair use of OpenDOAR's information, since the new list in Wikipedia is meant to provide context about both open access and each host institution in India. In contrast, the "heart" of OpenDOAR is its extensive data about individual repositories. The wikified list does not focus on detail of repositories, but simply gives names and URLs. -- Oa01 (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

— Note to closing admin: Oa01 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.

*facepalm*. The CC BY-NC-SA licenses are incompatible with the CC BY-SA licenses. The BY-NC-SA 3.0 license has a "ShareAlike" clause too (hence, BY-NC-SA), which requires all derivatives to use the same license. BY-NC-SA =/= BY-SA. --stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 13:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia:Adding open license text to Wikipedia. --stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 13:54, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But the list here is a derivative work, and therefore not a copyright violation. -- Oa01 (talk) 14:53, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The SA with NC, means that the derivatives have to also include the -NC. So posting it here claiming that NC does not apply is a copyright infringement. It may not be an infringement to put it on Wikipedia, but claiming the wrong license makes it so. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of how you feel about any copyvio, all of the lists in this AfD are a clear example of what Wikipedia is not. Ajf773 (talk) 19:37, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For Reason 1: Clearly a derivative of BY-NC-SA must also be BY-NC-SA, otherwise everyone can crop a BY-NC-SA picture and make commercial use of it. Since BY-NC-SA is not a compatible license on Wikipedia, we cannot use this material. For Reason 2: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, so other lists cannot be used as an rationale per se. The other lists are may or may not be WP:CIL and WP:NOTDIR. This one is. --Muhandes (talk) 09:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete India. WP:NOTDIR. Also content will eternally fail the inclusion criteria WP:CSC so list would just be a blank page. Cesdeva (talk) 18:37, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all these pages are just replications of the information available at http://www.opendoar.org/countrylist.php . While they appear up to date now (all created on 1st of April), I can't see how they will stay concurrent with the source data. The OpenDOAR wiki page exists as an entry point to this database. Teraplane (talk) 22:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. However, if it is a suitable project for Wikiversity, deletion should wait until it's moved there. Cambalachero (talk) 13:06, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No opinoin, but not a copyright vio I do not see any copyright violation. It is okay to copy lists like this, even if there is a claim of copyright, when the information is not eligible for copyright. A "list of obvious things by region" is not copyrightable because it is a statement of facts. If the list were "recommended things by region" or a matter of someone's choice rather than fact, then it could be copyrighted. Wikipedia does not have clear policy on list like this. However, all of this information can go into Wikidata, and each of these organizations can have a Wikidata item. Although the functionality does not exist now in Wikipedia, I think that soon somehow Wikimedia projects will make it much easier for anyone to generate and share lists of things like if they are in Wikidata. I recommend considering Wikidata as a place for this regardless of Wikipedia. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per WP:SAL, these don't seem to fit the stand-alone list criteria. Natureium (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all I don't see why we should copy lists maintained by others, copyvio or not. This kind of linkfarms is also being added to other articles (see for example Open access in Italy). --Randykitty (talk) 22:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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