Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guitarists (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. WP:SNOW MBisanz ^talk 09:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of guitarists

As with the AFD for List of Vocalists the category is more than enough for this infinitely expandable list. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of keyboardists. Benefix (talk) 18:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It serves its purpose as a quick access point for, err people interested in guitarists. It is useful, well moderated and has a place in WP. Whereas spurious list haters who use WP:OTHERSTUFF as a self-perpetuating argument does not. What happens after decimating all the List of... pages, a full onslaught of the lists of categories? WebHamster 19:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As a general rule, every category should support a list also if people are willing to make them. Some people actually prefer categories, and they do have their uses, but that is no reason to remove navigational devicesthat other people find useful. As this list gives the name of the groups, it provides more information than a category ever could. DGG (talk) 03:16, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a list is more than a category could ever be and even can evolve into a WP:FL.--Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord ² 03:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:CLN. This is a list that provides functionality not provided by categories which makes them valid navigational aides. The length probably warrants sublists, but that can be handled through editing instead of deletion- Mgm|^(talk) 12:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you notice List of lead guitarists and List of rhythm guitarists are linked in the intro? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 13:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I note that Miley Cyrus has just been added to this list. And because the same editor added that bit of info to her article, I know that Miley Cyrus is a guitarist, just like Mark Knopfler and Earl Klugh (to pick two random guitarists whose names start with K). This list can never be complete and because of the lack of entry criteria will be stuffed with entries like Miley Cyrus or any other minor celeb who is photographed holding a guitar. A category serves the same very limited purpose. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 13:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment You doubt the notability of Miley Cyrus as a guitarist? Even Jimi Hendrix cited her as a big inspiration and wrote "Foxy Lady" especially about her. Not to mention legions of female guitarists like Jennifer Batten, Wendy Melvoin, Steve Vai and Prince who followed her pioneering work. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord ² 13:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I always suspected that Vai was a woman. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 22:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per DGG. Any issue with individual items on the list is an issue for editing, not deleting the entire list. The list may also need to be split up into individual lists by genre or time period; this does not mean it should be deleted. Lack of completeness is not grounds to delete the list; we even have a template that explains that the list in question cannot hope to be complete... such a template would be unnecessary if the situation is was intended for were grounds to delete the list. JulesH (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - (from the aforementioned and Kept AFD) not meaning a WP:OTHERSTUFF argument ... but ...your saying that keyboardists are less notable than guitarists & drummers. I dont understand how from your Nom. Statement. It takes all of them to make the music. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 06:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC) ... As I said then is still true, what in your Nom Rational is the grounds for deletion? Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 02:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:CLN, DGG, and Mgm. This serves a different purpose from a category. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 07:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because lists should not be deleted in favor of categories. This is a far more useful navigational device than Category:Management. And a lack of red links is certainly not a reason for deletion—article development is only one of the purposes of lists. DHowell (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because lists should not be deleted in favor of categories. Nor are there an infinite amount of notable guitarists, so this list is not "infinitely expandable". If it gets too big it can be split by genre and/or time period per JulesH. As for Miley Cyrus, she may not be Eric Clapton or Stevie Ray Vaughan, but she has actually been noted for playing the guitar. Also note that the List of keyboardists AfD resulted in a near-unanimous keep, and the nominator has admitted to being a sockpuppet. DHowell (talk)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.