Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Filipino representatives at international male beauty pageants (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Filipino representatives at international male beauty pageants

List of Filipino representatives at international male beauty pageants (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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 Note: Wikishovel (ping) left me a note on my talk page that this article was recreated. Given I previously nominated this article for deletion, I consider this appropriate notification per WP:APPNOTE as Editors who have participated in previous discussions on the same topic (or closely related topics).With that out of the way, my reasoning for deletion is the same as it was a year ago (it was soft deleted at said discussion):

Per WP:NOT#Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations, we do not host people from ethnic / cultural / religious group X employed by organization Y. No evidence that this is a culturally significant phenomenon.

HouseBlaster^talk 16:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Beauty pageants, and Philippines. HouseBlaster^talk 16:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nominator as a WP:CROSSCAT violation. There also seems to be no source that discusses this list as a group, making it unlikely to be notable. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:26, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination and per TechnoSquirrel69: I've found no RS in English discussing the grouping. Wikishovel (talk) 18:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Not for Deletion per nomination and per Garcia.rock97: I've already provided links as reference to the list and prove its legitimacy. I also want to stress out that similar lists but from different countries are already published for years in this platform. Garcia.rock97 (talk) 07:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm assuming this is a !vote to keep the article? I'm not sure how your argument can be "per nomination", as the nominator is arguing for deletion. As for the references, the sheer number of citations does not prove the "legitimacy" of an article. The concern here is that the subject of the article is an unencyclopedic intersection of two arbitrarily-chosen categories. This is a violation of the What Wikipedia is not policy regardless of the number of citations provided to verify the entries of the list. Also, saying that other similar articles exist is not a strong argument in a deletion discussion. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Garcia.rock97: You note on your user page that you have a conflict of interest regarding Man of the World (pageant). Do you also have a conflict of interest regarding this article? HouseBlaster^talk 23:52, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete when we compare this to the distaff counterpart Philippines at the Big Four international beauty pageants, there are differentiating factors. Pageantry for better or for worse is largely a women's affair in the Philippines and the wider world (which does not help build the men's pageantry as a culturally significant phenomenon, or at least not significant enough), the scope is clearly limited to the so-called Big Four pageants, so there is a more sense of arbitrariness on which male pageant is notable to include.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.