Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kokoro Kikuchi

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The result was keep. Keeper ǀ 76 20:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kokoro Kikuchi

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Fails WP:BIO. No significant coverage, no reliable source to back up claim that Air Gear made her "famous" when it was a secondary role, and all otehr voice roles listed appear to be either minor or secondary parts. All links are standard directory links in which almost every voice actor of any licensed series appears. Wikipedia is not a directory and it is not not a mirror of ANN, TV.com, IMBD, or any other voice actor directory listing. That is all this article is, a replica of those same listings, and without reliable sources or significant coverage anywhere, it is all it will be. Declined speedy.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I don't know how to explain it anymore.Kitty53 (talk) 04:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note: Kitty53 is the article's creator. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This voice actress play main characters in Air Gear, Coyote Ragtime Show, Digimon Data Squad, Shura no Toki - Age of Chaos. Zero Kitsune (talk) 01:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you cite some reliable sources that verify that? Stifle (talk) 08:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, there's always ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=25965). Not to mention, you know, the CREDITS of all those shows? 208.245.87.2 (talk) 14:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Show credits would not be third-party sources. Stifle (talk) 08:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But if a seiyu has played main characters in anime, then we can infer that he or she is notable. After all, WP:N and WP:BIO are just guidelines, which means they're more flexible than policies. Policies can have flexibility in a few circumstances, though, such as WP:NOR states that articles whose topics do not have reliable secondary sources should not have their own articles, but if one article about a fictional character suits the situation, and the work and the list of ...... characters are too long (all the content meets WP:NOT and the three core content policies), the character should have an article to avoid verboseness in the articles about the work and character list. --RekishiEJ (talk) 11:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just out of curiosity, what possible source could be more authoritative than a production's credits? Given all other references would be based on those credits anyway, after all. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep she is notable. --RekishiEJ (talk) 11:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Contra Zero Kitsune, those roles all are secondary (though more important than minor/incidental) and not the multiple "significant" roles asked by WP:ENTERTAINER. That leaves the only notability claim being the "famous for," which does not seem to be readily verified. If someone can provide a reliable source for that before the AfD is over, then we've got a keeper. Otherwise, it looks like a delete. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment These AfD's seem to be related as by the same nom about similar actors and created by the same editor - I linked to them at the top for other editor's ease but nom has now deleted them twice so am adding here: Banjeboi 03:22, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - nothing outside of minor roles --T-rex 19:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - list of roles is de facto claim of notability. Needs verifying, but i don't think anyone is claiming these are not true. More notable than many tabloid "celebrities" from US or UK. She's never been interviewd anywhere? Tag it for improvment, don't delete.Yobmod (talk) 10:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep yes the article could be improved and edited, but don't delete it--fix it.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There aren't that many google hits to look through. There are clearly plenty of mentions of this person as the voice actor for various roles, but nothing I can call I reliable source we can use, apart from various user-edited databases like ANN. If there are reliable sources out there, they aren't showing up on Google, which says to me that we can stop hoping this will improve. Mangojuicetalk 17:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:ENTERTAINER#ENTERTAINER. It says: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions. She is in multiple films <ref> [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=25965] </ref> whose notability is proved by the fact they have articles here.  Mm40 (talk | contribs)  18:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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