Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hennig Wichmann

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz's concerns about merging were not refuted, despite several relists. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hennig Wichmann

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Delete Cannot find ANY reliable sources for this person existing that are dated to before this article was created. The sources that the German wiki cite, at least for the English language book, Piracy, does not seem to mention Hennig, or at least I could not find it. Even if there are one or two sources that mention him, he seems to fail notability generally. If anyone can find sources for this pirate, I would be willing to withdraw my nomination. Tooncool64 (talk) 07:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, History, and Germany. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 12:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete. This is scary. An IP created the de.wiki article with no sources. Sources were added later and the article translated into other languages. From Wikipedia this content has jumped from book to book published in the years since, often repeating verbatim what the article says. As Tooncool64 says there is nothing to support the existence of this subject, let alone its notability, before 2007.Mccapra (talk) 13:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If true then this needs to be reported to Wikidata and other projects.★Trekker (talk) 14:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to Victual Brothers#Likedeelers. It's certainly not a hoax as there are pre-2007 sources that mention Wichmann in connection with the Likedeelers or Störtebeker, e.g. [1], [2], and [3]. For an English source, see [4]. However this particular individual seems to be of marginal notability, so I think a redirect is warranted. Jfire (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect per Jfire. Well done for finding those sources. That’s a relief! Mccapra (talk) 07:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I was all ready to close this with a Merge to Victual Brothers#Likedeelers but when I looked at that section, it was a lot of "citation needed" tags and almost completely unsourced. So, I'm wondering if this is the best possible outcome for this article and I'm extending the discussion for a little while longer.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I'm not entirely clear if the mentions detailed above (and a few others I've seen) even refer to the same person, so in my view the best thing to do is to improve another page and then if/when sufficient sources are found expand into an article. There's just not enough sourced to merge here and we might just be encouraging misinformation. JMWt (talk) 14:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.