Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enggros language

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The result was redirect‎ to Tobati language. ✗plicit 14:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Enggros language

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Not generally recognized as a language, borders on a hoax. Languages in eastern Indonesia often have different village-based names, and nothing points to Enggros being distinct from Tobati. Going by the Tobati sketch in "The Oceanic Languages", Enggros is a village where Tobati is spoken. In fact, the data analyzed there comes from "the Enggros dialect". The same author has created Tobati–Enggros languages, a "group" that appears to have been made up too. A single anthropology paper speaks of a "Tobati-Enggros language", but otherwise not much of value shows up in search engines (and news articles aren't to be relied upon, especially when contradicted by literature). The Liputan6 article does mention "Tobati" and "Enggros" separately, but it isn't clear what kind of distinction is being implied. It provides some good insight into the vitality of the Enggros dialect, though. Semmiii (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language and Indonesia. Shellwood (talk) 15:12, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Tobati language per nom (and perhaps salvage what little usable material remains into a new "Enggros dialect" section); meanwhile, Tobati–Enggros languages is as good as AFDed at this stage anyway. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 19:07, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nom. Mccapra (talk) 19:46, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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