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Indonesia

Bintan Agro Beach Resort

Bintan Agro Beach Resort (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bintan Lagoon Resort

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Fails WP:CORP. Weak independent significant coverage. The resort in question closed down due to COVID/bankruptcy. Uhooep (talk) 08:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. per WP:PROMO. The article and all references on that article seems to be promotion material of that resort. Also, the main contributor of the article, MozaicHotels&Resorts, is an employee of that resort and has been previously blocked for adding promotional content. Ckfasdf (talk) 12:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not true at all, the promotional content they added was reverted. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Plenty of reliable independent coverage. I see nothing promotional in the article. The LEED ccertification is noteworthy in itself, and the new conference center got attention too. Being closed is irrelevant, although the closure also got coverage [1]. Perhaps it will reopen. But once notable, always notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mayang Sari Beach Resort

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no independent source provided. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pulling out my !vote because WP:HEY. I have no opinion now. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I pumped the article up a bit. There are plenty of sources, including various books, unfortunately mostly just in snippet view. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable beach resort...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Club Med Ria Bintan

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Appropriately sourced, meets requirements.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Hotels[reply]
  • Keep. Well sourced and clearly notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pelangi Hotel (Bintan)

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Travel and tourism and Indonesia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Aymatth2 Because they are really not? I'm very skeptical of these assesment that they are "notable" per WP:CORP. Hotels rarely fullfil it. I can see if its in Bali or Jakarta but Bintan?Nyanardsan (talk) 05:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hotels like these are often notable. A typical resort hotel is a large structure or structures covering a large area. It may have interesting architecture. Construction is expensive and messy. It employs a lot of people. Events are held at it. Journalists stay there. It changes ownership. Any or all of these aspects may be discussed in some depth. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've been to Bintan and it's high end, caters to wealthy businessmen from Singapore looking for a quick getaway in particular. Economically it's closer tied to Singapore than Indonesia and you'll find these resorts feature in the top southeast Asian magazines. It is possible that some like this might not have the sources we need online though.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LooLa Adventure Resort

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 09:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Travel and tourism and Indonesia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The article is supported by a number of reliable, independent, in-depth discussion of the subject. Clearly notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Clearly notable resort.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Intercontinental Hotel Bali

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 09:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Sarangapany, Veda (2011-05-29). "Warming to the Bali buzz". The Sydney Morning Herald. ProQuest 869129621. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "I decide to celebrate with breakfast; there are three restaurants - Bella Singaraja, Jimbaran Gardens and KO - as well as poolside service. The scrambled eggs are light and fluffy and the coffee is good. I wish I could fit in more. Tomorrow morning, perhaps. Next stop is the Club InterContinental pool. I don't have far to go and there are plenty of lounges or, if you want some privacy, you can stake your claim on a bungalow. I can see Jimbaran Bay from the pool and know I should drag myself off my lounger to check it out."

    2. McCabe, Christine (2009-03-07). "The butler did it - Asian Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The Imperial is the flagship of a premium collection of rooms at InterContinental Bali, including five categories of suites designed to replicate the villa experience that has become so popular on this Indonesian holiday island. These suites are located within Club InterContinental, a collection of 110 elegant rooms that operates as a hotel within a hotel supporting its own management, housekeeping and engineering teams. ... The new-look guestroom decor (the hotel was renovated last year) features indigenous timbers and batiks, gorgeous marble bathrooms, flat-screen tellies and all the latest whiz-bangery. The value-added nature of the club is popular with Australian travellers; it's excellent for families, given the free kids' club, beachfront locale and enormous complex of swimming pools. But the resort is just as delightful for couples, who can enjoy the privacy of the Club wing."

    3. Rosenfeld, Kelly (2024-02-29). "Review: InterContinental Bali Resort". TravelAge West. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "Originally opened in 1993, InterContinental Bali was one of the first luxury properties built on the coastline of Jimbaran Bay (in southern Bali), a stunning stretch of clean, white-sand beach that hotel guests have direct access to from the resort grounds. ... A guestroom renovation project took place from 2017 to 2019 and was followed by a second phase that updated public areas, including its multiple pools, restaurants, the lobby and the ballroom, which was transformed into meeting space in 2022. During my stay, the main Nirvana pool was also undergoing a since-completed refresh to be in tip-top shape for the coming high season."

    4. Smiedt, David (2022-11-30). "We stayed at… Intercontinental Bali. Fresh from a million dollar refurb, this grand old dame of the Bali hotel scene has rediscovered her sparkle". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The property is immaculate - so much so it feels cleverly art directed - with traditional style fountains, bridges and so many pools and koi ponds that we stopped counting after a bit. As far as facilities and activities go, the Planet Trekkers kids club has a distinct eco focus, there's a Technogym laden fitness centre, tennis courts, yoga, kite making and bike tours of the local markets."

    5. Fordham, James (2018-08-20). "Review: InterContinental Bali, Jimbaran". Executive Traveller. Business Travel Media. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The resort itself is a large property stretching all the way down to Jimbaran Beach. With six pools, multiple restaurants and expansive immaculately manicured gardens it can take a little while to get your bearings, but friendly staff are always nearby should you need assistance. In the notoriously high turnover hospitality industry, I met several staff that had worked there since the resort opened in 1993 - after 25 years of working there, these staff were still passionate, friendly, knowledgeable and service-driven, which was a pleasant surprise."

    6. "travel42 Hotel Review: InterContinental Resort Bali". Travel Weekly. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The InterContinental Resort looks out across Jimbaran Bay to the distant airport. This means that the ride to the property is much shorter than to Nusa Dua or Ubud, making it popular with shorter-stay or late night-arriving guests. Its architecture was designed to honor the sacred axis between the mountain and sea. In a recent makeover, decorators followed the tri hita karana principle that balances the ideals of God, nature, and humanity."

    7. McCabe, Christine (2007-08-11). "Stay and Play - Family Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "On Bali's Jimbaran Bay, the glamorous InterContinental Bali Resort operates one of the best children's clubs on the island. Dubbed Club J, this extensive facility functions as a resort within a resort replete with large airconditioned clubhouse, outdoor swimming pool, climbing frame, mini basketball compound and a popular internet cave."

    8. Lees, Rachel (2023-06-22). "10 tropical family resorts to blow your mind". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "A luxurious take on a traditional Balinese fishing village, the 430-room InterContinental Bali Resort in Jimbaran has all the mod cons you’d expect of a five-star hotel. But the resort’s activities, a deep-dive into Balinese culture, make it a standout. Families can learn traditional net fishing and kite-making, and when the grown-ups need a break, the Planet Trekkers kids’ club instructs four- to 12-year-olds in Balinese dance, Bahasa language and the art of preparing traditional Balinese offerings. There’s also a professional nanny service for children under four. "

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Intercontinental Hotel Bali to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 10:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep seems like there are sources, just need to edit them in User:Sawerchessread (talk) 16:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable hotel with plenty of potential sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. All the references provided above are essentially reviews from past customers, and I don't consider reviews from past customers to be a reliable source due to their lack of editorial oversight, IMO they should be regarded as user generated content WP:USERGENERATED. Additionally, I couldn't find any sources about this hotel that are not past reviews or coming from travel agencies (such as Expedia, etc.), hence it fails significant coverage requirement. Ckfasdf (talk) 12:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Clearly notable. Cunard has dug up plenty of reliable, independent, in-depth discussions of the hotel, which could be used for an extensive article. It would be surprising if a hotel of this size and calibre had not been noted. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Dutch loanwords in Indonesian

List of Dutch loanwords in Indonesian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Transwiki Poorly sourced too. It is a better idea to move this to Wiktionary. The Banner talk 15:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rayyanza Malik Ahmad

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Another case of WP:INVALIDBIO. Child's notability is solely attributed to their parent, and it's highly unlikely for a two-year-old to have achieved notable accomplishments. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eva Devi

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The two sources listed here (one being a Who's Who) are not enough to establish the diverse coverage WP:GNG, and a quick search finds little on her. Allan Nonymous (talk) 21:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [2]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [3] [4]. Also there's another sources about the subject [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: The sources in the article along with this and this should be enough for GNG. At the very least, it's very likely that there is SIGCOV in offline sources. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 09:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Additionally, there appears to be SIGCOV of her in this and this. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Devi probably passes NACTOR as well. She starred in Senyum Nona Anna (coverage here), Papa, Mistery in Hongkong, Pulau Putri, Kenapa Kau Pergi and Jurus Maut. She also starred in Mei Lan, Aku Cinta Padamu, which according to this launched the career of Hendra Cipta. It's likely that these films have SIGCOV in offline sources. It's a shame that that's unverifiable though. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 10:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: An article about an Indonesian actress and model with unverifiable notability. On English wiki, every statement must be verifiable by at least a reliable source. Here, the films listed weren't sources and won't count to NACTOR. There has no been any recognition or I influence cited by peer for acting in Indonesia films; infact BEFORE have nothing except existence on books which still commutes non notability per SIGCOV. I won't rather vote for now since I am not used or neither speaks Indonesian language (there may be existing but I have clear doubts because the article I saw on ID Wikipedia cited no source.) This is not also a case of System bias, while I can't find maybe two successive citations to her impact in the 1990's or an interview in the 2000's on her role. On the other hand, I will say delete for now. All the Best! Otuọcha (talk) 10:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. I am of the opinion that nobody should strike comments from an AFD they initiated. Though it may seem clear-cut, the nominator should instead have a third party carry out the sockstrike. Geschichte (talk) 11:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amelia De La Rama

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This one is sort of on the edge here but, after a search, I found one article (an opinion) online, in addition to the articles here which seem to only make references to her in passing (as the wife of Sukarno). She does seem to notable for appearing in two films but in secondary roles. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [11]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [12] [13]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: this, this, this and this should be enough for GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • There's also this, this and this. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I saw these articles during my search, but again, they almost all refer to her in the context of being Sukarno's wife outside of the Philstar article, which has a disclaimer on it that it cannot vouch for the original source (this isn't to say it's bad, but verifying the orginal source, to make sure it isn't paid coverage should probably be done). The three newspaper articles are WP:LOCALCOVERAGE, so I'm not sure they qualify for WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      WP:AUD applies to companies, and requires at least one source that is at least regional in coverage. The articles in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin should be enough to pass that. The Historia article also discusses her film career. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The problem here is that these articles again only seem to cover her in the context of being Sukarno's wife, which still doesn't fix the WP:1E issue. You were right on WP:LOCALCOVERAGE tho, I will strike that. Allan Nonymous (talk) 17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The Philstar and the Historia articles both discuss her film career, which I feel is enough to show that BLP1E doesn't apply. Additionally, she probably has SIGCOV in offline sources. The Philstar article points to a magazine article from 1956, long before she'd married Sukarno. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 23:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Notable as a film actress with multiple roles. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 21:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Per sources presented above. Svartner (talk) 05:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I see three sources that meet GNG, (Tulsa, Honolulu, and Philstar) - more is presented than just being Sukarno's wife, so not just 1E. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moesa Pancho

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The tempo articles are advertisements, and the rest seem to be largely copies of that advertisement. Hence, seems to fail WP:GNG Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [14]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [15] [16]. And there also other notable sources from CNN and a book that was cited in the article [17] [18] 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Irena Justine

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Fails WP:GNG, most of these sources barely seem to qualify this person as notable. Allan Nonymous (talk) 01:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. I agree, the article subject doesn’t meet notability requirements. Nate Higgers (talk) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. And improve with the help of the (WP) pages in Indonesian about her and the films/series she played in, and that seem to show she meets WP:NACTOR although she died young.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. According to WP:NACTOR, the individual must have had substantial roles in various notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. However, the person in question does not meet this requirement, as they have never portrayed lead roles or appeared in notable films. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems important, and references seem legit. In general, multiple references talking about the subject like this is probably enough to indicate notability. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:*Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [19]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [20] [21]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. I added some references from the Indonesian article. I think she had many important roles. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 02:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia Proposed deletions

  • Wayang Kampung Sebelah (via WP:PROD on 29 January 2024)
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