Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 New South Wales mayoral elections

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The result was merge‎ to 2012 New South Wales local elections. I found the Keep (="Oppose") views to be largely not based on P&G. Owen× ☎ 08:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2012 New South Wales mayoral elections

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. I have not found significant coverage of this topic. Also fails WP:NOTDB; including all of the results for all of the mayoral elections would make this page massive. voorts (talk/contributions) 05:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Politics, and Australia. voorts (talk/contributions) 05:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Including each mayoral result (about 50 in total) would only make the page about the same size as Results of the 2022 Australian federal election in New South Wales or 2021 New South Wales mayoral elections, hardly "massive" by Wiki standards Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 05:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The third entry in WP:CSC provides a good metric for when a list gets into WP:NOTDB territory. That guideline states that "[s]hort, complete lists of every item that is verifiably a member of the group" may be appropriate. However, such lists "should only be created if a complete list is reasonably short (less than 32K)". The list is already 12k of wikitext from 2 entries; 50 entries would far exceed that limit. voorts (talk/contributions) 06:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Auspol wiki has been notoriously poor at recording local elections despite a wealth of information about them being available, and recording all results would see the page be as large if not smaller than most other auspol results pages. NSW is also the largest state and its mayors are generally very notable & attract a lot of media attention. Goodebening (talk) 05:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to 2012 New South Wales local elections as these were also part of the local elections that year (and also worth noting the size of the article could be much reduced if {{Election results}} was used instead of the election box templates). Number 5 7 16:00, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2012 New South Wales local elections as per Talk:2023 Western Australian mayoral elections#Proposed merge of 2023 Western Australian local elections with 2023 Western Australian mayoral elections. The mayoral elections are not a separate event from the local elections and should not be treated as such. Steelkamp (talk) 02:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The page clearly states how the mayoral elections are part of the local elections, they are notable enough to split the page for results It would be messier to embed these results in the "List of mayors of [LGA]" if they weren't on this page AmNowEurovision (talk) 04:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with 2012 New South Wales local elections: Mayoral elections are not separate events form local council elections. Additionally per WP:NPOL, being a mayor does not automatically guarantee notability. TarnishedPath^talk 08:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, per consistency with other mayoral elections. I don't really see a point in merging this page but keeping all of the other mayoral ones separate. Additionally, this page is clearly large enough to warrant an article in its own right; merging would only make parsing through these articles more tedious. Loytra (talk) 11:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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