User talk:Whispering/Archive nine

Regarding the edits at Chiropractic, please bear in mind that edit warring will result in blocks if you repeatedly override each other's contributions. The correct procedure is to use the article talk page (Talk:Chiropractic) to explain why your edit is desirable. Content is not decided by whoever is more willing to revert. James Zeeder (talk) 11:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The policy violations have been removed from the lede. The content failed verification. QuackGuru (talk) 21:48, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

James Zeeder was causing too many problems at the article and is now indef blocked. QuackGuru (talk) 21:36, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Whispering, since the rejection of Draft:Jacaranda Books, I have a found a number of references on the subject. While some of them do not meet all the criteria mentioned in the rejection box, I'd nevertheless like to think that there's now enough published/ reliable/ secondary and independent sources to sufficiently support a consistent 'story' and establish notability of the publisher. Can you advise, please? Yadsalohcin (talk) 13:10, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Whispering Hey. I am still waiting for your feedback on Iran CSDI wiki page. I am wondering if it is possible that you make me aware of your valuable comments on the suggested article. Thanks Sia.azimi (talk) 07:34, 4 September 2019 (UTC) Sia.Azimi[reply]

@Whispering Please Help me.Can you overlook please as I have made some changes to the Article.Please leave your valuable feedback whether it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amiya_Patnaik still violates the policy (NPOV) or not.If it is still doing Please inform me what to keep and what to remove.Ishwar^TalkY 14:18, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested for your feedback on the SteaussInTheHouse's Talkpage.Cleaned up already those stuff as you said.So is it Draft:Amiya Patnaik ready for resubmitting ? What's your say???.Ishwar^Talk 04:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Riskyishwar: The prose looks good, you will want to work on the sourcing. The current articles aren't really substantive enough. And the first one is a opinion piece which falls under WP:NOR. Whispering^(t) 12:53, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted some parts of the draft,because i coudn't find related sources.Ishwar^Talk 04:45, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Whispering: its been a quite long time,you have not been able to reply me.I am asking you again my draft is ready for submission or not.Ishwar^Talk 08:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Riskyishwar:Just put it up for review again someone will let you know. Whispering^(t) 13:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Whispering:Dear reviewer,I know you are busy but you should be helping me as i requested you.First you have to tell me in details.Which prose is the opinion piece(mention the series of sentences).then i will work on it as i am confused which part falling on WP:NOR.Please try to understand as i know you are the best person to help me to get away through this.Ishwar^Talk 22:36, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Title: Idoa community.... I need the no index not removedElectwai (talk) 14:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Kartik.acharya (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mohammad Mustafa (IAS) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Reviewer, I am trying to create a wikipedia page for IAS Muhammad Mustafa. My article has been declined twice. Could you please advice where am I going wrong, and what can I do to meet the Wikipedia requirements for the same. Mr Mustafa is a prominent personality and is and IAS officer, who is currently the CMD of SIDBI which is the Principal Financial Institution for Promotion, Financing and Development of the Micro, Small and Medium Enterprise (MSME) sector as well as for co-ordination of functions of institutions engaged in similar activities. Request you to kindly help me in this regard.

Kartik.acharya (talk) 06:26, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear reviewer, my article on Michael Berthold (Draft:Michael_Berthold has been moved to the draft sprace because of a lack of sources. It is a translation of the German article on Michael Berthold (see: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Berthold). No sources, besides the one listed under the bulletpoint Literature, was given. I did not notice this until after I had translated the article. What should I do? I did this translation as a part of my studies at the University of Freiburg, Germany.

Best regards

Ccarda (talk) 10:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccarda (talk • contribs) 10:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ccarda: Cite some references then put it up for review. Whispering^(t) 13:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Hobbyist rn (talk · contribs)
  • User:Hobbyist rn/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Reviewer, I indeed submitted an almost similar article. However, I made a lot of improvements to the references, so that is the reason we I submitted the article again.

Hobbyist rn (talk) 15:30, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hobbyist rn: You can make the same improvements to the other draft. There is no need to make two drafts just make the improvements and resubmit the first draft. Whispering^(t) 15:33, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Whispering, today you moved my article draft Draft:Bechhofen, Rhineland-Palatinate from my sandbox into the Draft namespace. But my review request was not intended as AfC submission (my fault) but as request for review before extending the existing article. As a consequence, the request was declined together with the recommendation to update the existing article. After updating the article Bechhofen, Rhineland-Palatinate, I would now get rid of the draft. I have read the Wikipedia:Deletion policy guidelines but I am still unsure about the correct procedure in this case. Could you please help me? Thanks in advance, --TeKaBe (talk) 15:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TeKaBe: If you want to delete it you can always blank it then drop a {{g7}} on it which will mark it for a speedy delete. Whispering^(t) 15:47, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - done. --TeKaBe (talk) 16:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This wasn't my submission - I was merely implementing the removal of a category and became the first person to edit many of these pages in a long time. Timrollpickering (Talk) 16:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HI , can you help me completing my page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Divya_krishnan), i can give you all information you need with source, or pls let me know my mistakes, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abidn2 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, The draft Draft: Thalapathy 63 is about an upcoming film that is scheduled to release in October 2019. I noticed you had rejected the article after multiple denials to make it into an article. I request you to reinstate the draft for the following reasons.

1. Other articles about films of the same actor have been published right after the principal photography has started 2. It was not I, the draft creator who resubmitted it to earn your rejection. That was somebody else with an IP address. 3. If you reinstate this as a draft, a few people's hard work will not go to waste, and we don't have to repeat the creation of a new draft.

I understand your concerns that this article is being submitted too many times for a draft review, but I request you to remove the rejection, and I will try everything I can to make sure the draft is not submitted until the proper time, even though I am a newbie (this is my first article) and may require some help on that.

Thanks Athu1 (talk) 07:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Athu1:Those films are not under review, drafts are not owned by you or anyone else once you submit them. If you feel so attached to the draft just undo my revision. Whispering^(t) 13:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Whispering! You have reviewed the AfC submissions for Martin Zielke and Stefan Schmittmann, but declined as they were duplicates. So I merged the proposed changes from my user pages to the drafts linked above and submitted them again. I was wondering if you would have time to recheck these articles? Your feedback is highly appreciated. Thank you a lot! -- Oliver at Commerzbank (talk) 08:20, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have made required changes. Can you please re-review this draft. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.160.28 (talk) 14:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Whispering. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Hoërskool Ben Viljoen, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement, or there is other content to save. Thank you. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have been working on this draft for Brighton's local elections (Draft:Brighton and Hove City Council election, 2019) that you kept as a draft. Someone has created the article for this subject (2019 Brighton and Hove City Council election) without knowing the draft exists. Do you have the ability to delete the draft? Jonjonjohny (talk) 07:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jonjonjohny The draft will be automatically deleted after a certain amount of time with no one editing it. Whispering^(t) 00:37, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Msiukosa (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ductor Corp. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Whispering, I've been editing Wikipedia in the past (many years ago and only the Finnish pages) and would like to start writing and editing more because I love the service. The first article I wrote was about an interesting Finnish company called Ductor because I realized they don't have a page yet. I have now shortened the article to make it less advertising like and would like to hear your opinion on it. I would also greatly appreciate all hints and advise, since I really want to learn how to write these articles.

Thanks and best regards,

Mikko from Finland

Msiukosa (talk) 14:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Msiukosa I gave the draft a once over again. To be entirely honest the sources need a lot of work. The second one is just a profile. And the first is most likely a press release. It doesn't read like an advert anymore which is good, however we are going to need some more substantial sources before it can be published to main space. Whispering^(t) 00:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I understand that you've declined my article submission. Could you please share more reasons around this? Thanks! Iokepang (talk) 03:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Iokepang Well exactly the reason stated in the box. However, after reading through the sources for the one in your sandbox it looks like you have the same sources on both drafts which were rejected before. I don't see this draft being accepted until the sources get a rework. Whispering^(t) 00:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback, it was very helpful. Made a number of changes and edits accordingly. Understand the duplicate article is up for speedy deletion. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iokepang (talk • contribs) 09:47, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there! Thought I’d take this opportunity to circle back around the Validus Capital Wikipedia page - apologies for the duplication. Understand the original draft has since been deleted. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iokepang (talk • contribs) 06:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whispering,

Per my recent edit of Josh Trank's personal info (DIVORCE) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Trank, the source is available through the Los Angeles County Superior Court.

Los Angeles Superior Court's website is lacourt.org.

Case Number: 17SMFL00364

TRANK, JOSHUA VS LINDEN, KRYSTIN VER

Filing Courthouse: Stanley Mosk Courthouse

Filing Date: 10/11/2017

Case Type: Dissolution w/o Minor Children (General Jurisdiction)

How do we source this to the page so that this important biographical information is up to date?

Wastelander55 I threw the case number in the LA Court's case number lookup and it didn't bring up a case. Do you have a exact url for the case? As to how you can site the source there is a cite web template in the wiki editor that can walk you through the cite process. Whispering^(t) 00:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Madlandhelga (talk · contribs)
  • User:Madlandhelga/sandbox/Stipa Family (Writers) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have revised my article because I discovered another scholar/writer by the name of Stipa and replaced the sources with appropriate ones. The article is now called "Stipa Writers." I uploaded the revision and would like to have "Stipa Family (Writers) deleted as soon as possible. Thank you, Helga Madland Madlandhelga (talk) 15:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC){{SAFESUBST:Void|[reply]

Hello, Whispering,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Bensci54 and it's nice to meet you :-)

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• Jetfloatsam (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Jacob Brown (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, Jacob Brown may be a low-profile historical figure, but he is the namesake for Brownsville, Texas, and I think that in itself is worthy of a Wikipedia page. Information about him online is scanty and would require research at university libraries, likely from obscure, out-of-print texts. The Wikipedia page for Brownsville mistakenly linked to another Jacob Brown who died in 1828. I will, in time, find more secondary sources on Jacob Brown, but in the meantime, I would like the Brownsville Wikipedia page to link to the correct Jacob Brown. Thanks

Edit, July 20: Never mind. Another user created a page for Jacob Brown.

Jetfloatsam (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pinky Campbell is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pinky Campbell until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 06:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Whispering,

Thanks for reviewing the KLayout draft at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:KLayout ! As requested, I added a number of links, including some of major universities who publish online recommendations on installation and usage of KLayout.

KLayout is used possibly even more often than the industry-standard Cadence when it comes to visualize CMOS layouts, hence it is hard to believe that it does not have yet an entry on Wikipedia. In fact, it is difficult to find people doing IC design who have not heard of it.

I hope the article is now ready to be published. Otherwise, I would appreciate some more detailed feedback on how to improve it. Thanks! Lapislaz (talk) 14:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I suggested this is because you have a gap on the wikipedia [Van Zant ] page that says that he took up music after the death of his cousin in 1977 and his timeline skips to 1996. Quite a significant gap in time wouldn't you agree? What was he doing before that? If the lead singer of this band is "sufficiently notable" for a wikipedia page, why would the band not be? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcs2010 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bcs2010 The problem is your source consists of a blog which are not considered to be reliable sources. Furthermore, the draft is so small you could just add it as a mention on the main article if you could find a reliable source to do so. Whispering^(t) 21:43, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I had pictured it as more of a mention on the jimmie van zant page but didn't know how to do that. I'm pretty new to this:) There are videos of them playing on youtube but it said that is blacklisted as a source? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcs2010 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bcs2010 I'm just going by the notability guideline for inclusion in Wikipedia,

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

There's more but you get the gist like I said you can read it over on notability guideline. Whispering^(t) 22:36, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Reviewer,

I am Saurav B. Saha from India. We in our lab have developed a database i.e., User friendly Comprehensive Antibiotic resistance Repository of Escherichia coli (u-CARE) consisting of antibiotic resistance genes in E. coli. The work was published in the Journal of Clinical Pathology (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25935546). The work is of importance to clinicians and researchers for better understanding of the resistance mechanism in E. coli.

Just like other similar databases, I also created a wiki page with user id: SauravSaha.AMR on wiki sandbox and submitted it for review. But the content was deleted on 9:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC) due to copyright infringement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SauravSaha.AMR).

Firstly I would like to thank you for taking time out from your busy schedule to review the article. Now I would like to know whether I can resubmit the article with different restructured words or publishing in a journal will refrain me to write an article about our developed database?

Any help will be highly appreciated. Soliciting your kind help.

With warm thanks and regards, Saurav SauravSaha.AMR (talk) 16:17, 12 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SauravSaha.AMR (talk • contribs) 07:07, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please return Draft:Moshe Menasheof to Moshe Menasheof, after I corrected the refernces. This is translation of the article in Hebrew. Thanks - Moshe1958 (talk) 16:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

can you please help with editing this article in proper manner it has been declined by you so please help sir/madam. --Andoster (talk) 14:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IARA_Awards#international_achievement_recognition_awards_uk[reply]

Iam new to wikipedia and this is my first article heart broken please help.

Iam crying inside my heart please help small article you can edit making the necessary changes--Andoster (talk) 15:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I made the necessary changes as you said from neutral point of you could you please publish the article.--Andoster (talk) 15:58, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Pmsouc (talk · contribs)
  • User:Pmsouc (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, thank you for your comments which I note and will attempt to remedy. I note that my draft has been deleted though I have a backup. I appreciate that the Early Career section was much the same as SonicBids and as it is my first attempt at a Wikipedia article I will re-write this. A lot of Hayley Griffiths early career is naturally factual so if I resubmit this keeping the same chronology, but using my own words, and removing a few things, presumably this will be acceptable and I assume that there was no issue with the rest of the article.

Pmsouc (talk) 18:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pmsouc Like the message on your talk page says Wikipedia cannot accept work copied from elsewhere. You have to put information in your own words or it will be deleted again. Whispering^(t) 18:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Whispering, I saw that you removed my recent additions to the the Later Allusions section of Terence's Eunuchus play on the grounds they were "not constructive." I was attempting to clarify the nature of Augustine's allusion to this scene which was meant to illustrate the potential "corrupting influence" that it could have on school children. The full English translation of the section is as follows,

"Hence the young profligate in Terence, when he sees on the wall a fresco representing the fabled descent of Jupiter into the lap of Danaë in the form of a golden shower, accepts this as authoritative precedent for his own licentiousness, and boasts that he is an imitator of God. And what God? he says. He who with His thunder shakes the loftiest temples. And was I, a poor creature compared to Him, to make bones of it? No; I did it, and with all my heart." (City of God)

This is a substantial comment by Augustine because he is specifically condemning Terence on the grounds his work is likely to corrupt morality, whereas later writers, specifically Erasmus in his "De Ratione Studii" specifically proscribes Terence for the study of school-children. The English translation of his comments are as follows:

"Again, among Latin writers who is more valuable as a standard of language than Terence? He is pure, concise, and closest to everyday speech and then, by the very nature of his subject-matter, is also congenial to the young." (This is from the University of Toronto 1978 edition).

According to T.W. Baldwin's "Small Latine & Lesse Greeke" (1944, University of Illinois Press) the Erasmian prescription for Terence helped to ensure his status as one of the primary authors from which Elizabethan school-children were to learn Latin (Volume 1. pages 118-164). For Augustine to condemn Terence so strongly in City of God, whereas Erasmus specifically praised Terence is noteworthy and in my humble opinion the specific nature of Augustine's allusion is certainly worthy of being included in the Wiki on grounds of how deeply constructive it actually is for further scholarly inquiry. This is especially true in light of the demonstrated scholarly tradition that emerges out of recommending or condemning Terence.

I hope I have made a case for why clarifying the nature of Augustine's allusion to this play is constructive and merits inclusion. Would you be open to me adding this clarifying comment back? If not, would you be able to clarify what specifically you find to be "not constructive?"

Cheers.

AlasPoorYorick1603 I've reverted my changes, although to prevent further misunderstandings you should always cite your sources. Whispering^(t) 15:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hope everything is fine. This is regarding the Draft:GrabOn. Please review the page once again and help publish it. It is not an advertisement. I feel it is useful to users. The rejection makes me feel like a newspaper refusing to publish an article. May I request you to consider the page on merits. Or else suggest me how to make necessary corrections. Thank you Regards.

Jayanagas It most certainly is an ad for GrabOn I just put it up for speedy deletion. At this point your best bet if you really think Wikipedia needs an article for GrabOn is to just start over from scratch. Whispering^(t) 14:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Edbmarsh (talk · contribs)
  • User:Edbmarsh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Edbmarsh (talk) 13:10, 14 August 2019 (UTC) Hello there - I received notice of your rejection of the intentdata.io company page. There is substantial content on the page and one section (bios) which included information from another site. I didn't understand that the policy included "this includes material that you own the copyright to." Since I own the cite, identified the possible CoF, and the page was about the company, it seemed reasonable. I understand with teh policy clarification that it is not.[reply]

Here's my request - please just restore the draft with the bios section deleted. That was the specific concern and there is substantial work in the rest of it.

Thank you

Edbmarsh Wikipedia cannot accept information copied from elsewhere. Even if you own the website it's still under copyright and cannot be copied to Wikipedia. The only way you could copy it from your website is if you released it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Whispering^(t) 14:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I already explained this to CASSIOPEIA, who did this same thing you did. You deleted and moved my article List of Marvel Comics publications (J–R) to draft space. I didn't so much create this article, as split it off from two existing articles, List of Marvel Comics publications (A-M), and List of Marvel Comics publications (N-Z). I split those two previous articles into three because they were getting too long and unwieldy. These are the other two, new associated articles:

List of Marvel Comics publications (A–I)

List of Marvel Comics publications (S–Z)

I simply re-titled/moved those pages, so they still contain the history for (A-M) and (N-Z), where you can see the info I got for the (J-R) page. I literally just copied and pasted it.

I didn't add or remove any info to/from the article. You deleted it because it didn't contain enough sources/references, but it didn't contain any sources/references when it was a part of those two previous lists.

Can you please restore the List of Marvel Comics publications (J–R) that you deleted, since the other two parts of the list don't make sense without the middle part of the list. Either all three articles need to be deleted, or all three need to be left alone, 'cause just deleting the one doesn't make any sense. Wilkinswontkins (talk) 14:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wilkinswontkins Drafts need references to be published to mainspace. Having a redlink while you work on sourcing the draft does't hurt anything. Whispering^(t) 15:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is silly.. it's just a list of the comics published by Marvel that include those letters... having a redlink for half of the letters is ridiculous. The sources are all in the external links section.Spanneraol (talk) 15:55, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spanneraol Verifiability is one of the core guidelines here at Wikipedia. Your references at the end of the article are all lists and look to be written by fans which would be original research. We need several secondary sources for inclusion on Wikipedia for example a book about the subject or a magazine article. Whispering^(t) 16:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Those are official sources.. not fan written and yes they are lists which is what this is. The Grand Comics Database is the best source for this type of info. The sourcing requirements for lists are less than those of articles. There are many of these list of titles articles and this one is no less sourced than any of those others. You are mis-applying policy here. Spanneraol (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spanneraol No, the GCD is updated through user contributions which falls afoul of the Verifiability guideline. It's the same reason we cannot reference the Internet Movie Database or even Wikipedia itself. Whispering^(t) 16:40, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What would be an acceptable secondary source for comic book titles, then? Are we allowed to use comic book store pages, like mycomicshop.com? edit: Looking at the WP:AFFILIATE policy, it appears that store pages would be allowed as citations for titles. Can you please confirm, before I get started adding the references? Wilkinswontkins (talk) 16:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do disagree with whispering about the verifiability of the GCD which is very accurate... and there is no reason for him to have moved the article to draft space.. leaving a giant gap in the list.. instead of just tagging the article to begin with. There are very few official online sources if he is disallowing these... I would think you could use the mycomicshop site but it's not as complete... the only other option is an offline source like the Overstreet guides which are harder to verify if you don't actually have one. Spanneraol (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Wilkinswontkins and Spanneraol:, Greetings. Wikinswontkins wrote to me on my talk page regarding the same matter at hand. I choice to respond here to keep the discussion in one space place. Pls note all three list article are in draft space - you can find them here - Draft:List of Marvel Comics publications (A–I), Draft:List of Marvel Comics publications (J–R), and Draft:List of Marvel Comics publications (S–Z). Do note (1) stand alone list article do need independent, reliable sources just like any other article - please see WP:STAND. (2), for stand alone list article, "group sources" are acceptable. (3) sources can be in any language in digital or print. You don't need to provide all listed item with inline citations (sources), but as many as you would find. (4) Since there are some listed item do have article in Wikipedia, it means it is not hard to find independent reliable sources. (5) Anyone can work on the draft articles, one it is done (providing inline citation - you can create additional column and insert the sources there). see List of mayors, lord mayors and administrators of Sydney, List of states with nuclear weapons and List of current UFC fighters for example. You can submit for review, and if you want me to review them, ping me. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, CASSIOPEIA. Can you please answer my question on whether mycomicshop.com (or any other comic book store website) is an appropriate source for the lists? I'm going by the WP:AFFILIATE policy that it should be, but I would just like confirmation that it is, before I go to all the work of adding thousands of sources. I don't want to do all that work only to have the lists end up getting rejected for using that source. Thanks.Wilkinswontkins (talk) 11:51, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Wilkinswontkins: Greetings. If the sources directly associated with the subject than it would considered not independent and it would place in the External link section (limit to 2 please - see WP:ELMIN). For sources that write about the particular field/discipline and not association with the subject then it is independent sources. If you look at Draft:List of Marvel Comics publications (A–I), you would find source on for A-Force on A-Force - see here. Vendor and e-commerce sources is to to verify the (existing) /title/running time of the subject. Do provide significant coverage independent sources that would meet the guidelines first then you could pls the rest with WP:AFFILIATE. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:24, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention that I am only using mycomicshop as a reference for the title/issue numbers/release dates, since that's all that the list is. Just to verify that the title exists, basically. There's no other information provided on the titles in the list, so there should be no need to seek out any other sources. So, mycomicshop should be fine as a reference strictly for the title, under the WP:AFFILIATE policy, right, since no other information is needed? For the A-Force example you gave, all of the detailed information is already provided on the existing Wikipedia article page for that title, not the list, so there should be no need to seek out more detailed sources, strictly for the purposes of including it in the list of titles. Wilkinswontkins (talk) 13:22, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no reason for you to move these articles to draft space. You could easily just tag them with the verifiability tag and allow them to be worked on in main space... which is what happens most of the time. The articles are not new.. they have been around for many years so your actions are improper. Spanneraol (talk) 13:11, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Wilkinswontkins and Spanneraol: Perhaps we should of just taken them to articles for deletion which you are supposed to do with articles that cannot be verified. This way they can be worked on and you don't have to start all over again. And no the GCD is updated by user contributions just like the Internet Movie Database and thus inherently unverifiable so we cannot use it as a source. Whispering^(t) 13:54, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, Whispering, I have no issues adding the references to the lists. Just trying to gather as much information as possible before I start in on the work, to make sure I do it properly. Wilkinswontkins (talk) 14:06, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Whispering, that is nonsense.. You can tag something with a verify tag and let people improve it.. that is what is usually done.. the arbitrary decision to take it offline is simply not what is normally done. And clearly the subject is notable so AFD would be improper.. you are just trying to throw your weight around rather than following precedence. Spanneraol (talk) 15:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spanneraol, may I respectfully ask you to please stay out of this? I have no problem adding the references to the lists. You're going to end up getting the lists deleted outright by arguing with him, and I'd rather not have that happen, especially as I've just spent the last month-plus working on improving the lists. Thank you. Wilkinswontkins (talk) 15:19, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• BrainFitness (talk · contribs)
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Dear Whispering, thanks for taking time to review the CogniFit page I wrote. I am happy to comply and I am looking for assistance to know if I should delete complete sections:

• I am researcher in neuroscience and was motivated to write this article because of the controversy about digital brain fitness. There are only 2 companies (CogniFit and Posit Science, but Posit Science already has a Wikipedia page) in the world that have been deemed showing proper scientific evidence to backup their claims. Indeed, there are new brain training apps popping up in the Apple App Store or Google Play Store every day with no scientific information about their programs or even their companies. These companies destroy the credibility of the work of good researchers. I wrote the history of CogniFit and detailed their historical products (people can no longer purchase such products) because I thought it was important to show that this is not a new company, they have the proper experience and scientific publications. On the other hand, I have not detailed or even explained the new products, I only listed them with no explanations. My question is: Shall I not mention the company products? Even the history of their products that show their years of experience and science? Shall I completely delete the sections mentioning all of their products (discontinued and current products)?
• I paid attention not to quote the CogniFit company owns website but it is true that I have quoted their press releases because in some cases did not have other source of information from this company. My question is: Shall I remove the content created from their press releases?
• I wanted to positive about my way of writing because I believe that these companies show true promises for the future of brain health for mankind. You know the pharmaceutical industry spent several billion dollars in research to find the pill that would help people with brain health/mental health issues but they still haven't found anything without severe side effects. However, I understand your comment and can rewrite being more neutral.

I am looking forward to reading your future guidance.

Sincerely,

BrainFitness (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Imvieira (talk · contribs)
  • User:Imvieira/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Whispering,

Thank you so much for reviewing my submission.

I'm just wondering if you could give me a bit more information as to why my article was rejected? I would be really grateful if you could let me know what lines specifically made the article seem like an advertisement? I would like to amend this so it is in line with Wikipedia guidelines.

Looking forward to hearing your feedback! :)

Imvieira (talk) 14:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Oneonta1776 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:YPS Art (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for reviewing my proposed entry for YPS Art. I agree with you and your suggestion. But when I enter this information into the entry for "Yohanan Petrovsky-Shtern" I noticed that repeatedly someone, who I suspect is an anti-Semitic troll, constantly deletes the information. Therefore, I would be most grateful if you can help secure the independence and integrity of the entry for Yohanan Petrovsky-Shtern. Thank you.

Oneonta1776 (talk) 17:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Previously deleted due to welding problem. And I want recreate with referance and Sources. (Living Peoples) Kil.Baran (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kil.Baran (talk) 13:11, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thank you for pointing out my mistakes on that edit related to the 123FormBuilder page. Take this kitten as a gift from me.

I was wondering if you could check the new 123FormBuilder page that I've created. The content is much more shorter now.

Thanks! Have a great day!

Olivianclaudius (talk) 19:04, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I hope you are well. I wanted to discuss the reasoning behind the Artesia article being declined. Yes, I am close to this matter specifically and this was disclosed, but the article is written in a neutral, fact stating way. Artesia brand pianos and instruments have been around since 2013 and are sold in over 50 countries around the world, so there is a relevance to this article. In addition to that, Musical Merchandise Review (MMR) Magazine is a long standing publication that highlights all aspects of the music industry hardware and software. MMR is a published, reliable, secondary source that is completely independent from the brand. Aside from that, the database from NAMM.org was referenced. NAMM (National Association of Music Merchants) is described (on Wikipedia) as "the world’s largest trade-only event for the music products, pro audio and event tech industry". The world's largest musical merchandise trade show has Artesia listed in their database, so there is relevance. This article was drafted as an unbiased statement of facts about the Artesia brand of instruments. Can you please point me in the right direction as to how to get this brand's page published properly? Timothy R. Bolden 00:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothyrobertbolden (talk • contribs)

Hello. The reasoning behind my edit of bell hooks' "Ain't I a Woman"'s article is that her pen name is bell hooks, not Bell Hooks. The edit should not hae been undone.

Bbgamo (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2019 (EST)

Bbgamo Ah so it is apologizes about the false positive there. Whispering^(t) 01:30, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Draft:The Work Truck Show. I do not think that Draft:The Work Truck Show fits any of the speedy deletion criteria  because This is essentially factual in content. The show may not be notable, but that alone is not a reason to delete, esp in draftspace.. I request that you consider not re-tagging Draft:The Work Truck Show for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well it reads like an ad, but if you want to keep adverts on Wikipedia I suppose you can do so as an admin. Whispering^(t) 00:23, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An article draft I was working on was declined due to inadequate sourcing, no problem I'll find more sources, but you mentioned something about a sanction on all things relating to crypto currency and blockchain? Does this mean I should just abandon the article I was working on? FaultySubset84 (talk) 23:10, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FaultySubset84 I declined it for the same reason The_Mirror_Cracked did lack of reliable sources. The Cleanweb looks like it's a blog, the other is a event which is a primary source both are passing mentions. The whole general sanction is just something I put on there mostly for your information. A reviewer might reject it for those grounds because it's a topic about crypotocurrency. Sorry for the confusion, if you have any other questions please ask. Whispering^(t) 23:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just one question, I changed the one source to another website that isn't a blog, but can you tell me which one is the primary source? Is it the one from Northwestern University? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaultySubset84 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• TeixeiraMMA (talk · contribs)
  • User:TeixeiraMMA/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Good Afternoon, I'm definitely looking for assistance on my article for Teixeira MMA & Fitness. Our article was declined for publishing due to it seeming like self promotion. We are a professional athlete/celebrity owned Professional MMA Training Camp, we're definitely not trying to self promote, but just get ourselves listed like other MMA Training Camps in our field. We literally took the formats from their Wiki articles to create our article to get it right, but somewhere we did something incorrectly. We're a very public MMA company and known not just nationally, but if various parts of the world in the professional fighting world due to the ownership of the business who's top ten in the world in the light heavyweight division of the Ultimate Fighting Championship & we have well known fighters that come to our facility from around the world. We're a Professional MMA Training Camp and we just need to get ours listed like the other MMA Training Camps that are on Wikipedia. Other MMA Training Camps like ours that are listed on Wikipedia are: The Pit MMA, American Top Team, Alliance MMA, Cesar Gracie Fight Team, exc. Hopefully this information helps to explain what we're trying to achieve. Would you be able to help steer me in the right direction to get this done correctly since adding to Wikipedia is definitely new to me (and I got it wrong). Kind Regards TeixeiraMMA (talk) 00:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi

You recently approved “Graphitizing and non-graphitizing carbons”, so thanks for that. The purpose of my “Hard carbon” page was to redirect people to “Graphitizing and non-graphitizing carbons”. “Hard carbon” is the same stuff as non-graphitizing carbon, but non-graphitizing carbon is a more scientific term. Hard carbon/non- graphitizing carbon is increasingly important in lithium and sodium ion batteries.

Best wishes Barnaby3457 (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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	thank you . I'll try Goodarz Irani (talk) 17:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, you declined the AfC because the draft reads like advertising. I tried to use neutral tone really and I cannot see how to make the less advertorial. Should I change the article's structure? could you give me advice to clean up the article? I would like to know more about why you declined and make adjustments accordingly. Merry Christmas and thanks for reviewing AngelicaDos (talk) 23:17, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the Acquisition section and renamed it to 'Business expansion', tried to be more general, less specific with money. is it better now? AngelicaDos (talk) 15:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]