User talk:Rublamb

Thanks for your very valuable contribution to this page. I created it because of his position as CG in Shanghai and could not find much further information.

Shanghai88

Hello, Rublamb

Thank you for creating Stockton B. Colt.

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HᴇʀᴘᴇᴛᴏGᴇɴᴇꜱɪꜱ (talk) 01:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On 25 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julian M. Wright, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that judge advocate Julian M. Wright was once a fencer, and President Theodore Roosevelt attended one of his matches in 1902? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julian M. Wright. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Julian M. Wright), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent article, very nice work! -- Mainly 14:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On 20 November 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cary, North Carolina, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite its sizable population, Cary is classified as a town? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cary, North Carolina. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cary, North Carolina), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For excellent work in the completion of George H. Brown (judge). BD2412 T 02:28, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your terrific work! FloridaArmy (talk) 11:26, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thank you for *all* the help on the Maryland Military and Naval Academy. Naraht (talk) 06:28, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar is awarded to Rublamb for copy edits totaling over 60,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2023 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 03:22, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thank for the work you did a while back on Jim McBride (songwriter). So much better! S0091 (talk) 22:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article St. Anthony Hall you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:St. Anthony Hall for comments about the article, and Talk:St. Anthony Hall/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Argenti Aertheri -- Argenti Aertheri (talk) 01:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Henry M. Crane you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Henry M. Crane for comments about the article, and Talk:Henry M. Crane/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of M4V3R1CK32 -- M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 00:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Carl A. Schenck you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Carl A. Schenck for comments about the article, and Talk:Carl A. Schenck/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vortex3427 -- Vortex3427 (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Was he an honorary member or a founder of one of the Forestry honor or professional societies? Jax MN (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting question. I'll have to check on both Schenck and Frederick E. Olmsted. Rublamb (talk) 23:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Frederick E. Olmsted you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Frederick E. Olmsted for comments about the article, and Talk:Frederick E. Olmsted/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Esculenta -- Esculenta (talk) 23:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		The Special Barnstar
		For your work on elevating Isabelle Urquhart to , but specially for your sensible comments and approach during the review that helped alleviate a critical situation. The Blue Rider 09:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Isabelle Urquhart you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Isabelle Urquhart for comments about the article, and Talk:Isabelle Urquhart/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of The Blue Rider -- The Blue Rider (talk) 09:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

pioneers in education

Thank you for quality articles such as Carl A. Schenck and Henry M. Crane, for the goal to bring many of them to GA quality, for exceptional reviewing, for "Please ask if you have concerns or questions before reversing my work", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2888 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Vance Monument you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Vance Monument for comments about the article, and Talk:Vance Monument/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chilicave -- Chilicave (talk) 03:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on the GA! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Another Believer: How far is it from FA? Or will it get slammed for being too detailed? Rublamb (talk) 00:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Another Believer, Well, I can't get past DYK, so clearly not even close to FA. LOL. Rublamb (talk) 18:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 13 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Isabelle Urquhart, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Broadway actress Isabelle Urquhart (pictured) started a fashion trend when she decided to reveal her figure on stage by not wearing petticoats? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Isabelle Urquhart. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Isabelle Urquhart), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:01, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Rublamb, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to spend more of your editing time writing about women. Given your wide interests and your high standard of editing, you are likely to be a useful member of the project. In addition to your continuing work on lists, it would be good to see you creating more biographies of women. If you have not already done so, you might find it useful to look through our Primer. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 08:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I very much appreciate all the effort you put into the article I started. Thanks for your detective work and discrete handling of “questions about some of the unsourced text.” You citing that source and paraphrasing the Wikipedia text is an excellent solution. Best, BananaSlug (talk) 19:22, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Richard Urquhart Goode you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Richard Urquhart Goode for comments about the article, and Talk:Richard Urquhart Goode/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of APK -- APK (talk) 04:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've got to go to bed, so I apologize for kicking off a discussion and not being available, but you're making a lot of edits to short descriptions for colleges and universities, they're not consistent, and some appear ill-advised (for example, you're removing descriptions of HBCUs as such, you're trimming out "US" from some and leaving it in others where you're shortening other parts of the short description). You're possibly in danger of falling afoul of WP:MEATBOT. I'd give people a chance to take a look and catch up. Jahaza (talk) 06:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Please take some time to better understand what we look for in short descriptions before making changes at this scale. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:03, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdkb, I am aware of what is looked for in short descriptions. All of the edits I have made were for descriptions that exceeded the ideal of 40 characters. For exmaple, converting "United States" to "US" or removing details that were excessive given the limited space. I have said many times before, short descriptions for colleges and universities are challenging and sometime require variations for space or to include basic content. Rublamb (talk) 07:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that they're challenging suggests all the more that you should consult with others and avoid making dozens or hundreds of changes quickly, but to think them through carefully. Jahaza (talk) 07:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdkb, By challenging, I meant to fit the description within the character guideline. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I hope you will agree that no discussion is required over abbreviating the United States or changing to the standard format for university and college short descriptions. (I can provide examples if that helps). I have added or updated many, many college and university short descriptions; I would think at least 500. Typically, there is a correlation between long short descriptions and articles that are flagged for academic puffery. Also, some of my edits are based on WP chats. Rublamb (talk) 07:51, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jahaza, Thanks for your concern. I am working on a long list that includes looking at a lot of college pages. Because I participate in WP Short Descriptions and WP Higher Ed, I try to fix issues that I find. Specifically, I am trimming short descriptions for length. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for college short descriptions to be 40 characters or less; there simply is not room for details such as "liberal arts" or "historically black" or "research institution" given the norm of listing place name along with either college or university. It may seem random, but in WP discussions, it was decided that US could be included for less famous states even if it goes to 44 characters but that US was not needed for states like Texas, California, Florida, New York, etc. Thus, my edits are consistent within guidelines and goals of both WPs. Rublamb (talk) 07:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Colleges and universities are not primarily locations, so I'm not sure that we need to always favor location language over description. Especially when the location is in the name of the University.

In addition, the "rule" that short descriptions be 40 characters or less is not actually a rule, so it's not always better to be shorter than that and have less information. Jahaza (talk) 07:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that 40 is a guideline and not a rule. However, in the past, I have been criticized for adding college short descriptions that were in the 40 to 50-character range. In some of the edits I made this evening, some were closer to 60 characters and clearly needed trimming. The logic behind such edits is that the description often gets cut off at 40 characters in viewers, so anything over that length may not be visible or useful. For consistency, the format for most college/university short descriptions is: Private/Public college/university in city, state, US. Sometimes private/public is replaced with church affiliation, historically black, or women's. I do get your point about location, but my short answer is that it depends. With the University of North Carolina at Asheville, the location is very clear. However, I suspect that most Wikipedia users would not recognize that Elon University was a place or the state name. That is why sometimes I will skip the city name for some other detail but, in general, don't think general readers are familiar with college towns. Rublamb (talk) 07:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I was too harsh above; it does appear that you've put significant thought into this, and your views (particularly on when to include US) mostly align with mine.

But I share Jahaza's concern about replacing so many instances of "liberal arts"/"historically black"/"women's" with "public"/"private". The way I think about this is, what is the most defining aspect of the institution? (To understand "defining", in turn, I ask, how much would this place be different if this thing were changed?) An institution's public/private status is an important piece of information about it, but in these instances it's not the most important piece of information.

To take one example, at Howard University, you replaced Historically black university with Private university, which I think was a deleterious edit. There are some readers who might not know whether Howard is public or private, but anyone who knows anything at all about it knows that it's an HBCU. If it were public, it'd be a quite different place, but if it weren't an HBCU, it wouldn't be Howard. Therefore, the short description should be Historically black university in Washington, D.C. to best help assure readers searching that they've found the right article. (N.b. This brings it to 49 characters, a little over the limit. It causes it to go onto a second line in the mobile search results, but it still looks fine, as it would if it were cut off slightly.)

It's a similar situation for most liberal arts colleges (where the small size/liberal arts focus is more defining than the private status) and women's colleges. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:32, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdkb: Thanks for your reply and for expressing your concerns. I agree with you on HBC, especially for Howard. I appreciate the reminder to not always give in to those loud voices for short descriptions. (I used to be the person who added things like HBC to descriptions only to be slammed for making then too long). As noted elsewhere, I always use “women’s” or religious affiliation when appropriate, so that is not an issue.

However, I do believe that “public/private” is more important in the United States than “liberal arts” in most cases as it defines an institution's history, alumni, student body, operating structure, institutional philosophy, and tuition rates. In contrast, “liberal arts” only describes academics and, even then, may not accurately reflect what a college offers or what its top majors are. Consider that the United States Naval Academy is ranked as the top liberal arts institution in the US! In the U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges Ranking, public or private is the first division made to its lists. Certainly, it is something that potential students and Wikipedia readers look for.

As someone who has a Master of Liberal Arts degree who has worked at a liberal arts institution that hired consultants to study public perception, I can tell you that the phrase "liberal arts" has little meaning outside of academia and is a component of the academic experience at most colleges except technical schools. For example, as an undergraduate, I was required to complete a liberal arts curriculum at what is classed as a major research institution; the average experience of most undergraduate students at that institution has little to do with the “research” tag. However, the public/private component there was huge as it factored into tuition and the type of students. Harvard claims to provide a liberal arts education but is also classed as a research institution. Yet, “private” probably says more about Harvard to most people than “research institution” or “liberal arts.”

As I have looked at universities and colleges in Wikipedia, it would be fair to say that most small colleges that are not religious claim to offer a liberal arts education. Thus, that distinction is not as unique as their marketing would imply, but the funding model is more so. Maybe using the term “small” instead makes sense since the distinction between college and university is now blurred by institutional names. However, I may be an outlier here and will take this WP:UNI see what they say. Thanks. Rublamb (talk) 15:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		Women in Green Editathon October '23
		At last – here is your barnstar! Thank you for your excellent contributions to GA nomination Isabelle Urquhart at the WiG "Around the World in 31 Days" Good Article editathon. I was really impressed by the communication/collaboration and conflict management skills you showcased during the work for this article. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 17:43, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

	The Original Barnstar
	For your excellent research and expansion of Karen L. Parker. Thank you! Beccaynr (talk) 16:35, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 2 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George Willis Pack, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that George Willis Pack, a Northerner and Lincoln supporter, financed a monument to Confederate governor Zebulon Vance in Asheville, North Carolina? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Willis Pack. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, George Willis Pack), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for working on the “Dolores Cannon” it is revolting that others deleted her page simply because her work contradicts their spiritual, mythical, religious beliefs. Thank you!!!! Holy4d

On 17 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Patricia Schultz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Patricia Schultz, the author of 1,000 Places to See Before You Die, would choose Florence for her final trip before dying? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Patricia Schultz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Patricia Schultz), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Schwede66 00:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On 23 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Richard Urquhart Goode, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that geographer Richard Urquhart Goode is the namesake of three mountains and a glacier? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Urquhart Goode. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Richard Urquhart Goode), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really appreciate the work you're putting in on this article. Central and Adams (talk) 17:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article George Carnegie Palmer you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:George Carnegie Palmer for comments about the article, and Talk:George Carnegie Palmer/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Grungaloo -- Grungaloo (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article J. Cleaveland Cady you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:J. Cleaveland Cady for comments about the article, and Talk:J. Cleaveland Cady/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Unexpectedlydian -- Unexpectedlydian (talk) 10:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to add a sort key for the category which is the Lists. So instead of List of Omega Chi Epsilon chapters having [[Category:Lists of chapters of Association of College Honor Societies members by society]], it should have [[Category:Lists of chapters of Association of College Honor Societies members by society|Omega Chi Epsilon]] . Hotcat allows for adding the |Omega Chi Epsilon Let me know if you want me to fix.Naraht (talk) 17:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Naraht: Didn't know that was a thing. Thanks for letting me know. And you are welcome to fix anything you find. I barely remember to add the default sort to the article. Rublamb (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rublamb made the change.Naraht (talk) 22:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]