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I certainly tried to explain the situation on the editor's talk page when he was an IP. If you look at the history at talk:mitty you will see that he went back and removed the ip sigs and substituted his new user name. That aside I certainly see your point and unfortuneately am not ablee to help like i used to. I replied here because my phone lets me make a new section but not a regular edit and i only get a couple hours a week to edit on a computer. Feel free to renove the editor retention template from my talk. Ill put it back when the situation improves. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 02:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if this is your sort of thing but... Do you know if there is a tool which will automatically complete the Grid Ref &/or Lat & Long sections of Template:EH listed building row if one or the other is included? As you know I've been working on Scheduled Monuments in Somerset and its 7 sub lists (over 670 entries). I know several ways to look them up and insert them manually which I've been doing on List of Scheduled Monuments in Bath and North East Somerset but wanted to automate the process for the others. I have a vague memory of a discussion related to WLM last year about whether this is possible but can't find it now.— Rod ^talk 11:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't know of an on-wiki tool; it would be possible to have a bot do it as a one-off job. Try asking at WP:BOTREQ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Why Wikidata is so important to Histropedia
  • Wikidata Outreach: What happened?
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • The new main page can now be translated.
• Did you know?
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• Development
  • Performance improvements for "in other projects sidebar" beta feature and bug fixes in the feature on wikis with sidebar cache enabled (e.g. zhwiki, commons)
  • Worked on performance improvements to badges feature
  • Fixing bug with xml format in the API, and added tests for it so hopefully this does not break again!
  • Worked more on enabling statements on properties
  • Further work on new user interface design groundwork - mostly refactoring and enabling editing of multiple sitelinks and label/alias/description at once
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  • Drafted an RfC to improve recent changes so we can show Wikidata changes also when enhanced recent changes is enabled
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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 18:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Not sure if you know User:Mary Mark Ockerbloom, the WiR at Chemical Heritage Foundation, Philadelphia. You two should really discuss joint projects.

Hello, Smallbones just mentioned you are now the WIR at the Royal Society of Chemistry. Congratulations! (Ooooh, aaaah :-) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, both. Mary, I'll drop you an email next week. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Re:Utah Territorial Statehouse, it looks like a pretty good article right now. It seems to have grown organically since 2006 when half of it was written, and might even be a candidate for GA. Of course somebody should check whether the 1st half wasn't a copyvio. I'll post something at WT:NRHP if you haven't already. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 16:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Replied there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

We should probably talk. If you do wiki-related e-mail, I'm contactable that way from my userpage.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  15:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

As am I. Thanks, but I've had my fingers (and more!) burned by trying to tackle that in the past. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if you may be interested: bugzilla:71292, bugzilla:54222. --Nemo 12:28, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

@Nemo bis: Thank you, yes. The cladogram issue may be best solved by generating them automatically, from Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:45, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Over at Wikiproject Chemistry, you mentioned that you're the Wikipedian in residence at RSC. There's obviously some controversy over there about your selection, given that you are a non-chemist. I personally don't have any idea what the RSC sees as your role, or what resources are at your disposal. One suggestion I have for someone who does not have a technical background but does have the support of a chemistry organization would be to try and tackle some of the Chemistry image requests. For all the ones that are going to be basically photos of this or that, you can very likely call around to different academic chemistry labs that are likely to have the relevant thing - chances are there will be a grad student who is willing to take a bit of time to let you take a photo of some powder or whatever, or set up a reaction flask, etc.

If your role is supposed to be more community outreach than actually editing / improving articles, I'm guessing you could accomplish much the same thing by just going around teaching grad students how to navigate licensing and uploads, etc. The problem with that is that the backlog isn't very long for simple photos. Anyway, there's my suggestion as a chemist.0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 01:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you; I'll see what I can do. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy,
Thank you very much for adding an education field to template:Infobox officeholder. Would you be able to do the same for template:Infobox scientist? This would help bring to an end an edit war at Carl Sagan. How hot is the sun? (talk) 11:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

@How hot is the sun?: Done. Please complete the documentation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I copied and pasted from the infobox person documentation. How hot is the sun? (talk) 12:25, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • A new blocking policy has been accepted.
  • Proposal for an individual engagement grant to use Wikidata items for citations needs your input
  • RfC: redirect vs. deletion
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • past: Open Government WikiHack organized by Wikimedia DC in Washington, DC
  • upcoming: Wikidata training organized by Wikimedia UK with Magnus in London
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • With the deployment next Tuesday you will be able to edit all sitelinks at once as well as all fields of the "in other languages" box. This is an intermediate step towards the new user interface and will evolve further over the next weeks. You can see what is coming on Tuesday now already on test.wikidata.org.
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  • Showcase items: Hessian Broadcasting Corporation, Fishing Creek
• Development
  • Jan Zerebecki has joined the Wikidata dev team.
  • Worked on supporting statements on properties in WikibaseDataModelSerialization (bugzilla:66425)
  • Fixed broken xml api output (bugzilla:70531), as well as some inconsistencies in the xml format and added tests that should help avoid future breakage in the xml format
  • Finished performance improvements for badges
  • Worked on entity usage tracking
  • Pietro from the EAGLE project came to visit us, one of the first 3rd party users of Wikibase. See http://www.eagle-network.eu
  • Added a hook point to allow 3rd party users (like the EAGLE project) of Wikibase to control what goes into the search index
  • Started work on a widget that lets you edit badges right in the item instead of going to the special page
  • Use checkboxes instead of a multiselect to edit badges on d:Special:SetSiteLink
  • Work on hhvm-related issues in Wikibase and temporarily disabled the beta feature on Wikidata until fixes are deployed for the issues.
  • Deployed new code on test.wikidata! (to be deployed on wikidata on Tuesday), see mw:Wikidata_deployment#wmf.2F1.25wmf1
  • Work on fixing empty maps in the JSON serialization, differentiate them from empty lists (fixed prerequisite bugzilla:70606)
  • Jeroen made a little video demonstrating how you can get a clone of Wikibase DataModel, set it up, and run it's tests: https://asciinema.org/a/12530
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
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  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 12:13, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Discussions
  • [[:d:Wikidata:Requests for comment/User conduct policies|Closed RfC: User conduct policies]
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata Toolkit 0.3.0 released - Wikidata Toolkit
  • ProteinBoxBot is making Wikidata the canonical resource for referencing and translating identifiers for genes and proteins from different species
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: depends on, motto, series ordinal, Federal Register Document Number, monogram, cause of, Cycling Quotient ID
• Development
  • Investigated and fixed issues with time values
  • Investigated issues with coordinate value precision
  • Fixed a number of issues related to HHVM
  • Further work on usage tracking
  • Created smoke tests for items and properties
  • Created a widget to edit badges directly on the item without going through the special page
  • Prepared for a week of work with the WMF multimedia team and volunteers next week to get more planning done for structured data support for Commons
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 21:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Pigsonthewing, Anne Delong asked a question on the helpdesk about your recent change of Template:Talk header, in which you state that links should not be put in talk page subheaders. I support Anne in believing that it is regular custom to put links in talk page subheaders. Note for example that several headers on this very talk page have links. I have posted a question about the change at Template talk:Talk header. Your input would be very welcome. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 05:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Hello! Your submission of Heath Town at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Any reason you haven't addressed this comment to the article's creator? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing, we always contact the person who submitted the nomination to DYK. As nominator, it is your responsibility to respond to any issues that may arise. This includes contacting creators to see whether they're willing to make any necessary modifications to the article if it's something you don't have the information or inclination to handle yourself. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Er, no it isn't. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:27, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, you could read the standard DYK notification template above, with phrases like "your submission" and "your nomination's entry" and the request to "respond there as soon as possible", and draw the obvious conclusion—this was your submission—or you could do nothing and see the nomination's eventual failure. Do you monitor your nominations of articles by other people once you've made them, or are they meant to sink or swim on their own? BlueMoonset (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

It's rather facile of you to assume that I haven't read what I'm replying to. You seem to assume that an obligation exists; you are mistaken. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:10, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

So let me see if I understand you: when you submit a DYK nomination, you are under no obligation to respond to issues that may come up in the course of that nominations review? If I have this correct, at what point can those who try to keep the process going conclude that you won't be responding to the issues that are preventing a nomination's approval. The standard one week? BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Barry Williams (spree killer) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Montanabw -- Montanabw (talk) 01:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, can you explain as to why you or whoever it was - removed the last edit that was recently added on the above quoted page and concerning the book A Madness Shared by Two?

Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfkay (talk • contribs) 20:53, 9 October 2014‎

@Jayfkay: The material on was rightly removed from Ursula and Sabina Eriksson by User:EchetusXe, presumably because it seemed to be an advertisement, was written in the first person, failed to meet our WP:BLP, WP:SOAPBOX and WP:NPOV policies, and lacked independent, reliable sources. This accords with the advice I gave you when you posted here on this matter in September 2012, but which you appear to have ignored. If you wish to discuss the matter further, please do so on the article's talk page, not here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

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  • Open RfA: Nikosguard
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming IRC office hour about structured data on Commons
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • All human genes are now wikidata items, for example: Here is one (of approximately 40,000) called "spinocerebellar ataxia 37" - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18081265. Blog post about this to appear here: http://blog.wikimedia.de/tag/wikidata/
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  • Interested in some statistics about the data on Wikidata? Check Wikidata Stats every now and then. (Thanks Magnus for moving it to the new dump format.)
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: UBERON ID, Yandex.Music ID, has quality, Exceptionnal heritage of Wallonia ID, Orphanet ID, demonym (monoligual text), maximum Strahler number
• Development
  • Spent the week with the WMF multimedia team and volunteers to get more clarity about structured data on Commons. We'll be asking for feedback on a lot of stuff over the next weeks. The main info hub is taking shape at Commons:Structured data.
  • More fixes for the switch to HHVM
  • Looked into possible performance improvements. Some of them will be taken into the next sprint.
  • Battled a handful of nasty issues on the live-site
  • Wikibase DataModel 1.1 was released
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 22:32, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, @Andy Mabbett, i want another favor, since you link ARY Film Award for Best Film Jury to Template : best_film_jury, i want you to link ARY Film Award for Best Film Viewers to Template : best_film_viewers. waiting for your action. Sorry to disturb you, i tried by myself to do it but i couldn't. in order to prevent any mishap to that page, it's better that you should do it!. Fushan ^{talk to Faizan} 00:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Fushan007: I'm sorry, I can't work out what it is that you're asking me to do, please can you rephrase? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:00, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I have copied this MSG here, i am waiting for your action.

@Pigsonthewing:, What i am saying is, in "Template:Infobox film awards" there are two parameters one is Best Film Jury Choice and other is Best Film Viewers Choice meas there are two type of Besy Film Awards. In Article 1st ARY Film Awards, both parameters should have linked to their respective articles, one Best Film parameter is already linked to its article and other i want you to linked it. Means you have to link ARY Film Award for Best Film Viewers to parameter best_film_viewers. Fushan ^{talk to Faizan} 16:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing:, Thank you so much. Andy, you are the king. Fushan ^{talk to Faizan} 2:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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This was very sensibly kept, without a single person supporting the proposed deletion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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The article Barry Williams (spree killer) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Barry Williams (spree killer) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Montanabw -- Montanabw (talk) 19:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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