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You are providing wrong Information . I am gonna complaint against you , for providing fake Information and propoganda . Your Data is reverted . Jatin kamra (talk) 13:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

You even know about Khatri community , you ever visited India . You even know one person from community , I belong to Khatri community . Your Information is not even 20 Percent is correct . Please stop promoting fake Information . Jatin kamra (talk) 13:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC) @Jatin kamra: Please refrain from making assumptions about me. And Wikipedia relies on sources not your own assumptions - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Just wanted to know the reason for your recent edit at the page, where you mentioned WP:NOINDICSCRIPT. There, it is written, "Exceptions are […] and articles on texts originally written in a particular script. [……] A third reason is frequent disagreements over which native scripts to include; this led to a resolution to avoid all of them." Maybe you know better, and I want some guidance here too. See official playlist on YouTube, there it is written "इंटरनेट वाला लव", so there may be no disagreement on this text. Want to know your comments, thanks! M. Billoo 17:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: Thanks for communicating sir. As you've probably read, there had been huge amount of disagreements over this in the past especially related to multilingual stuff. The consensus was a "blanket ban" on Indic scripts in the Leading Paragraph and Infoboxes of all India related articles except the Religion specific articles and the articles about Languages itself. Hope I was able to answer your question - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

You need a source to prove that these glorious Bihari empires belonged to Bengalis. You can’t do this, very sad. Please don’t steal history from people greater than you. And no more edit warring.213.205.192.131 (talk) 16:20, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

That would mean Bengalis were greater than you Biharis at the time of glorious Pala Empire when they subjugated weak biharis at Monghyr and Pataliputra? Don't bring ridiculous communalism here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello , I Sourik8 , edited a page just before some hours, came under a copyright issue. Don't know why ! As I didn't copy paste a single line from http://m.siligurionline.in/city-guide/geography-of-siliguri# . I just read that web page for information and I wrote an article on wiki page of Siliguri by own by help of those information & added that page link as reference. So why copyright issue came for my editing? Sourik8 (talk) 15:50, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sourik8: Thanks for communicating. The person who reverted your edits is an administrator. They have access to all those stuff. You can ask him/her why that was a copyright issue. As for the source itself, I personally do not think it is a reliable source. Seems like a business/ promotional website. On the other hand Siliguri Govt. website seems fine since a lot of Indian articles refer govt. sites although a secondary source would be better. I suggest you find some books, newslinks, etc. Those are most reliable. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk : Thank you for sharing these info with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourik8 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sourik8: You are welcome. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:16, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you please tell me how can I be a confirmed user on Wikipedia PriyaMishra0121 (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@PriyaMishra0121: You are already an "Confirmed/Autoconfirmed" User. If you are talking about "Extended Confirmed" then you need to make 500 edits. Visit this link WP:UAL. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

And please can you please edit Lahu Luhaan PriyaMishra0121 (talk) 05:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@PriyaMishra0121: I'll try. But for now go through Wikipedia and see how a film article is created. Try it in your sandbox. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Sir, can you tell me that how can a person add a template to his/her userpage that he/she is M.A. in Hindi and P.hD. in Sanskrit?117.234.79.86 (talk) 07:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

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Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 10:33, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Salvio giuliano: Thank you very much sir. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:35, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to say that I undid your removal of a paragraph on the page Haplogroup R1a. You removed a detail which is sourced, claiming it is unreliable. This source is widely used by researchers. Please stop your disruptive editing. Wow. Editorfornarrativesandparagraphs (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Editorfornarrativesandparagraphs, Eupedia is not reliable. Scientific articles need scientific journals. Have you seen Eupedia used in the European section of the article? The claims are quite wrong. It says all Brahmins possess 70% R1a, in reality only Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal Brahmins possessed anything closed to it, 67% and 72% respectively. Brahmins of NW India (Indus region) posses much less R1a the ones in Gangetic plains. Secondly, Eupedia says R1a has lowest occurrence in Southern India among Dravidians. In reality R1a is extremely low in Tibeto-Burman dominated Northeast India. Thirdly many groups from North Western sub-continent show much lower R1a frequencies. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:21, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

This info does not only come from one source. It comes from many other reliable ones. You are prohibited to make edits on wikipedia pages based on the way how YOU view things. I have been warned before for doing this, and you may even get blocked for doing this. By the way, I have seen on your talkpages that you have recieived multiple warnings. I am curious, are you an Indian that you deny this info? Just curious because only Indian people (especially north) deny this information. If you are, then please stop your biased editing. Hope you understand. Thank You!

Editorfornarrativesandparagraphs (talk) 16:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Editorfornarrativesandparagraphs, Kindly go through WP:RS. The article needs scientific journals and scientific press releases. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I've protected the page for a week. Doug Weller talk 17:49, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Judging that you help out on the wrestling articles around here, I would like to invite you to watchlist WT:PW. That is where centralised discussion for professional wrestling articles take place. You will also want to check out and watchlist WP:PW/RS and Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Article alerts. Happy editing. StaticVapor message me! 04:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

STATicVapor, I frequently visit WT:PW and WP:PW/RS but haven't watchlisted these pages before until now. Thanks for your suggestion. I've watchlisted all these 3 pages. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Yeah this way you will be able to participate in discussion when they happen, we could always use more POVs. StaticVapor message me! 22:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

STATicVapor, Thanks. I'll be always there to help. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk Gallery template is better but using gallery template can we collage images?? Or , incase of adding images (collage) what should I use? Sourik8 (talk) 14:03, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Sourik8, Firstly, do not add too many images. Wikipedia is not a repository. If you do, everyone will come here with a picture of their school/college which will be greatly distracting. Go through MOS:IMAGES otherwise Siliguri article might get served with a Template:Too many photos.Secondly, do not add collage in the article body. Check Delhi article which has "Good Article" status. It features only a few number of pictures compared to how big it is. Try to add pics on the "left" and "Right" of the article with simple wikilinks File:XYZ... and if it is necessary, use a "gallery.... /gallery" tag and use images or use a "gallery template" like I did in Siliguri article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk Thanks for the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourik8 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

If you have an objection due to COMMONNAME over the name of Prayagraj District, then no doubt you will also have similar objections to the changes taking place on the following page, Astana, where edits have been made to reflect a came change that happened in the last few hours. Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 16:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Cordyceps-Zombie, People agreed to keep it that way as per WP:COMMONNAME. The discussion is at Talk:Allahabad. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:58, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

I am not referring to the settlement but to the district where there has been less discussion and no strong objections, most comments are in support to changing the word order in the opening sentence for the district. Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 16:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Cordyceps-Zombie, It doesn't make sense to change the name of the district but keep its capital as Allahabad. It should be discussed there only. I've seen you proposition change here. Kindly do in the Allahabad article as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

And only some IPs have agreed to the name change. Need trusted experienced editors to do that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:05, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

What is your opinion of the situation regarding Astana? Perhaps you could add to the discussion regarding that settlement. Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 17:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Cordyceps-ZombieI believe we should wait for some time till the new name becomes widely known. That's what WP:COMMONNAME dictates. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Well I suggest you go over to the Astana page and revert back to common name then! Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 08:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Cordyceps-Zombie, There's an RfC going on in the talk page. I've Opposed the name change as you can see here. I can see that the article still keeps "Astana" as the article name with the new name within parenthesis just like in Allahabad. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

That's actually my doing - using the Allahabad model for consistency. What's good for Allahabad District is also good for Astana! Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 14:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Cordyceps-Zombie, Yeah I saw that sir after writing the above reply. That's why I thanked your edit there. For Allahabad, the consensus is to wait until the name gets into the Gazette. I wonder why people are so much in a hurry. People should understand that Wikipedia has its own set of laws. Personally, I want these changes, Prayagraj, Bengaluru, etc but Wikipedian rules need to be followed first. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I have finally got my head round how WP:COMMONNAME works on Wikipedia Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 14:30, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

There are various other surnames which are not a part of article on uttarakhand. I would suggest to add some known surnames on Uttarakhand article, so that it would describe this state much clearly Indian caste (talk) 10:05, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Indian caste, We do not put surnames in State articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:02, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Your inserted Bihar in Kamarupi Prakrit, but the information is based on K L Baruah, and this is not longer considered correct. The Kamarupi Prakrit was the language of Kamarupa, confined to the boundary of Kamarupa. Chaipau (talk) 13:15, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Chaipau: I believe we remove any mention of modern regions corresponding to the historic Kamrupa. For that Kamrupa article is enough. In the infobox of Kamarupi Prakrit, it is better to only mention "Kamrupa" like in other old language articles like Magadhi Prakrit, Sauraseni Prakrit, etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your edit. I agree. Chaipau (talk) 13:44, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

This is regarding the edit you undone on [History of Faizabad]. There is a confusion among editors that the Yogi government has changed the name of Faizabad city to Ayodhya. In reality the name of the district is changed to Ayodhya. This article is referring to Faizabad city, therefore mention of district name change is not of importance in this article. Ansh467 (talk) 08:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

What do you meant by disruptive edit ? How can Ahom have any relation in Kamarupa kingdom ? Kamarupa kingdom ended in 12th century and Ahom arrived in Sivasagar in 13th century . why are you giving unneccessary information ? If love to write Ahom name everywhere then write it in Ahom page not in unrelated page. If you need more information of Kamarupa then go to this official website of India http://coochbehar.nic.in/HTMfiles/history_book.html Stop adding uneccessary Ahom name everywhere. Have ever compared kamarupa and Ahom kingdom. And Ahom never ruled entire ASSAM. It's just alliance . — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 09:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@PerfectingNEI: There is no reason to believe your source is more reliable. For WP:NPOV, do not delete sources from established writers. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Do you understand meaning of National Information Council ? btw , I'm not talking about reliability of Your so called information. But it's unrelated. So delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 09:47, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@PerfectingNEI: Govt. sources are WP:PRIMARY and Wikipedia should source reliable secondary sources. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Don't think i'm fool. Information should be real and true. There are lots of Fake information pages by Ahom. BTW , I'm not interested to discuss about source. I'm talking about relation Kamarupa before 12th cent and Ahom after 13th cent . So, How can you give unrelated AHOM information. This proves your are an AHom and Your clear propoganda is to spread AHOM AHOM AHOM . But in reality Ahom don't exist. AHOM = ORGANISATION. Which finished so long ago since there is no Tai king today. Today's Ahom are ... haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 09:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@PerfectingNEI: You deleted sourced info that's why I reverted. If you think the article is Pro-Ahom, you discuss in its talk page and make it Neutral. I can readd the Cooch-Bihar info since it supports Samudragupta's part but it doesn't deny that anything about Ahom's invasion into parts of Kamarupa. :You can call me Ahom, I've been called a lot of things, American, Russian, Indian, Anti-Indian, Bengali, Bihari, Punjabi, Tamil, Pakistani, Hindu Nationalitst, Anti Sikh, Anti-Hindu, Anti-Muslim, Pro-Indo-Aryan. I don't care. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

If you wanna you are unbiased then go to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachit_Borphukan and remove all unreliable sources. Lachit was Ahom general but He was not Tai origin. He was Chutia Tribe origin. His father was Mumai Tamuly. Ahom are spreading full of fake information. Correct those information and Lock it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 10:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@PerfectingNEI:, Ahom's invaded Kamrupa and Ahom included people from the previous kingdoms into its fold. So Lachit Borphukan is an Ahom as well. Consider that Tibetans and East Turkestanis are Chinese nationals as well. I've readded that Cooch-Biahr link you provided. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Ahom is different from Tai . Lachit was Ahom but not Tai origin. He was Chutia Tribe origin,. Anyway , I'm tired goodbye. Ahom try create their image by relating everything with ahom kingdom. But in northeast, there was 4 kingdoms . Chutia , Kachari , Koch , Tripura kingdom of genetically same origin people . One example of Ahom propaganda - Silk was available in Assam since 1500BC . All kings and rich people used it and there was trade with Aryans and Silk information was written in Arthasastra. But Ahom try to add their name by claiming Ahom gave royal patronage to silk. These type of writings clearly prove Ahom Propaganda . Ahom were defeated 2 times and saraighat and helped by nearby kingdoms but ahom try to portray only they have own the battle. They are master of lies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 10:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@PerfectingNEI: I agree with some of the things you say but in Wikipedia has its own laws. See Bangalore article name hasn't been changed to Bengaluru since there's a rule against this type of change. Ff you have valid points with reliable sources to counter act what's written in an article, go to talk page. If not convinced, you can go to DRN. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:48, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fylindfotberserk, i do agree with PerfectingNEI, there are unnecessary medieval information pushed in to the ancient kingdom article. Also 'Kamarupa'/'Kamrup' is a geographical area, the article title should be Kamarupa kingdom (4th-12th century) ? Greetings.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 18:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Bhaskarbhagawati, Since Ahom kingdom established itself in 1228 after Sukaphaa entered Brahmaputra Valley and since Brahmaputra Valley was under Kamarupa kingdom, it is likely that Ahoms were contemporary of the Chutiyas, Kamatapuris and Dimasas atleast initially. So I believe Ahom can be mentioned in the infobox of Kamarupa as a successor state which was removed by PerfectingNEI. Chaipau, would you weigh in? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk i agree with you, the Kamarupa Kingdom initially covered western valley, after few centuries moved towards central Assam by acquiring Davaka Kingdom, eastern Assam even later (vide Kanak Lal Barua). After 12th century, valley was ruled by multiple kingdoms as you mentioned. Ahom Kingdom mostly limited to east valley like Chutiya Kingdom, although in its closing years it occupied Kamrup proper in eastern part of western valley, it remained fitful and challenged by local powers (vide Banikanta Kakati). In contrast, Kamata Kingdom covered area exactly as Kamarupa Kingdom as in its formative stage. In that context i believe PerfectingNEI has weight ?भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 12:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I have restored it. The traditional boundary of Kamarupa is given in the map, and it covers entire Assam and more. After the breakup of Kamarupa, the seat of kingdoms were: Kamatapur in North Bengal (Kamata), Charaideo (Ahoms), Sadiya (Chutiya) and Dimapur (Kachari). The Kamrup region was the domain of the Baro Bhuyans, and it never was the seat of any kingdom. Chaipau (talk) 13:27, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Chaipau thanks, but you forgetting Guwahati (Pragjyotishpura]) and North Guwahati (Durjaya) are in modern Kamrup. The map of Kamarupa Kingdom is in its height. Kamata Kingdom do included modern Kamrup, North Bengal and parts of west Assam (the old Kamrup) while other capitals you mentioned are in east and south Assam.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 13:54, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Pragjyotishpura stopped being a capital after 650AD. Durjaya was abandoned for Kamarupanagara, which was again abandoned in 1250 or so. Since then Kamrup region has not had a capital, except for a brief period under Raghudev in the late 16th early 17th centuries. Chaipau (talk) 16:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

What you are saying is right, but needs some clearing. Pragjyotishpura is capital of Varman dynasty (first and most illustrious dyanasty of Kamarupa Kingdom) which ended on date specified by you, so is capital. Durjaya and Kamarupanagara (for very short period) are both in close geographical proximity, i.e. in North Guwahati. With end of last dynasty of Kamarupa Kingdom, i.e. Pala dynasty capital almost shifted from North Guwahati by next political entity. So, i agree with you that Kamarupa Kingdom is only kingdom native to Kamarupa region, but in case of territory Kamata Kingdom can claim itself as successor, as said by above editor.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 16:31, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The Kamata kings have themselves chosen not to claim the legacy of Kamarupa: they called themselves "Kamateshwars", not "Pragjyotishadhipatis". And they controlled probably less than 10% of the Kamarupa kingdom. You cannot make them say what they did not. The Ahoms, OTOH, were the only ones to claim the Kamarupa legacy explicitly. Chaipau (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Both the kingdoms did not claim any Kamarupa Kingdoms titles, while Ahom Kingdom limited mostly to eastern valley, Kamata Kingdom do covered original Kamarupa Kingdom, although Kamarupa Kingdom in its height covered parts of many modern Indian states plus parts of few modern countries.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 17:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

better source for early life and family

His sibling Vidhya's story is depicted in the 2005 film Sukran, where Vijay played an extended cameo as a lawyer. https://www.indiaglitz.com/vijay-rare-childhood-picture-sister-vidhya-chandrasekhar-thalapathy-sukran-cameo-tamil-news-230281

Political seeing or views

In 2018, during an audio launch when the interviewer questioned Vijay that "What you will do if you become the chief minister of state Tamil Nadu?" Vijay took the question in hypothetical manner and replied that "If I ever become a CM in real life, I won't be acting as a CM but do my duties honestly". http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/tamil/2018/oct/03/did-vijay-just-hint-about-his-political-entry-at-sarkar-audio-launch-1880326.html

In the media and other works

Vijay's twitter account was ranked at the 8th spot for most talked about Indian celebrities of 2018 by Twitter India. https://twitter.com/TwitterIndia/status/1070506864440356864

he was ranked #26 in 2018 Forbes celebrity 100 list based on earnings of indian celebrities. http://www.forbesindia.com/lists/2018-celebrity-100/1735/3

lead section changes

Some of his film works were screened at the -add the below with sources

Grand Rex France https://m.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-news-16/mersal-fever-in-france.html

Hainan International Film Festival China http://chinafilminsider.com/headlines-from-china-live-streaming-platform-panda-tv-rumored-to-file-for-bankruptcy/

@Kastromas: I will try to help but I don't think we should use IndiaGlitz source as it is considered unreliable. And I think the 'CM' part is also trivial. As for twitter and screening, it probably can be used. For now kindly raise your concern at Talk:Vijay (actor). Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: people like you only can improve this article since its outdated and I have given indiaglitz source because atleast it can be added as a source eventhough its unreliable since they have used a blog as a source for that sentence in that article. many regards upgrade the article to the latest form and one more change he has acted in 62 movies as lead actor and also add one BIFAN Award Korea to the notable award list in lead section. source https://www.southcolors.in/mersal-declared-asias-best-cinema/ and also about the CM part its not trivial it should be used because he has got a lot of poltical views and he has plans to enter politics and become CM in the near future so kindly add it in his other works section. Thanks Kastromas (talk) 17:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@Kastromas: Kindly wait for sometime. I'll add what is relevant as per your suggestion in near future. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Shockingly enough, this is just another sock of Bothiman. If you get anyone making requests like this related to the Vijay article, it's a Bothiman sock. They don't use the article talk page anymore because they know it's just going to tip off who they are. Ravensfire (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ravensfire: Oh damn. I thought it to be a rather innocent request. Thanks for informing me sir. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you watch Arvind Kejriwal, it is election season and vandals are having a blast there. User:Arjayay and myself are often outnumbered. --DBigXrayᗙ 07:10, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Yeah, no problem. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:01, 31 March 2019 (UTC)