User talk:Amakuru/Archive 13

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The article has merit.Bleucheeses (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bleucheeses: the article as I saw it, and as nominated by Death pool gave no indication of why Ashe was notable, and was not cited to WP:RELIABLESOURCES. If you like, I can WP:REFUND the article to you and put it on your user page so you can work on it further, please let me know if you want that. But it should be improved and properly referenced before taking it to the main space. Please also consider using WP:AFC process to get it looked over before submitting. THanks  — Amakuru (talk) 18:44, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

No, I do not like or want that. Why make me or have me have to "fix" the article? There's no precedent for that. Leave it alone and people will fix it. If you want to put it on the WP:AFC page, go ahead.Bleucheeses (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

That's ridiculous. Those are colleges - notable institutions. I don't think you know of what you speak; look up the materials.Bleucheeses (talk) 18:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

UWM is the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee and Berklee is Berklee College of Music. You are in error here.Bleucheeses (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Look at Shaun Frank and the sources used for that article. Same types of resources.Bleucheeses (talk) 19:06, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Contesting your action.Bleucheeses (talk) 10:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bleucheeses: A university website is not an independent reliable source for establishing notability. Clearly universities will carry articles about students and other people who aren't generally notable. You should provide better references than that. However, given the doubt, and the fact that she collaborated on a Juno award, she may satisfy WP:MUSICBIO after all, so I have restored it. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 10:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I've noticed that you recently moved the page for Rejang people. But I realized that you didn't move the Talk:Rejang people accordingly as well. The previous discussions in the Talk:Rejang people page are now missing. I'm not sure how to go about it myself. Can you ratify this problem as soon as possible? Thanks! -Jeblat (talk) 06:04, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).

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Al Ameer son • AliveFreeHappy • Cenarium • Lupo • MichaelBillington

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• Following a successful request for comment, administrators are now able to add and remove editors to the "event coordinator" group. Users in the event coordinator group have the ability to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit. Users will no longer need to be in the "account creator" group if they are in the event coordinator group.
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I have redirected old FATA 7 agencies to Districts because FATA is merged with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. One example is Khyber Agency, it now becomes Khyber District after changes to Pakistan Constitution. Can you please tell me why these were redirected again back to Khyber Agency?

thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaak79 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@Eaak79: this move was previously made without a discussion a few weeks ago, and was then requested to be reverted by user Khestwol. Since the moves have been disputed, and there seems to be some evidence that the terms like "Kurram Agency" are still used by reliable sources, the moves will require a formal discussion before going ahead. Remember that Wikipedia articles are titled not according to the official name of the entity, but according to the common name as found in reliable sources. So you need to provide evidence that English-language sources are using those new names, not just evidence that the government has renamed them. Please list them at WP:RM and get consensus before moving them again.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Please don't move railway station pages contrary to WP:NCUKSTATIONS ("The last official name should be used for closed stations"). Both Portsmouth (Lancs) and St. Mary's (Whitechapel Road) were the actual names of the stations as at closure. I haven't yet looked for other incorrect moves; but will do so later. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

@Redrose64: unless the plaque on the station signboard says "Portsmouth (Lancs)" then its not actually an official name but just a national rail (or predecessor) disambiguator. The RFC which led to WP:UKSTATIONDAB was explicit that those national rail disambiguators (e.g. Sutton (Surrey) are now deprecated.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:00, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, just to add to this... I didn't particularly have a strong opinion on the "Sutton (Surrey)" question but the RFC decided it that way so I'm gradually working through them one by one. Obviously there are special cases where the station is always referred to with a parenthetical and we keep that form, but I didn't think Portsmouth and St Mary's were in that category. I saw sources omitting the parenthetical. Happy to hear evidence to the contrary though.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:17, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

The station nameboard did say "Portsmouth (Lancs)" and it did say "St Mary's (Whitechapel Road)". Please see Butt, R. V. J. (October 1995). The Directory of Railway Stations: details every public and private passenger station, halt, platform and stopping place, past and present (1st ed.). Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. pp. 190, 204. ISBN 978-1-85260-508-7. OCLC 60251199. OL 11956311M. and Rose, Douglas (December 2007) [1980]. The London Underground: A Diagrammatic History (8th ed.). Harrow Weald: Capital Transport. ISBN 978-1-85414-315-0.. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:49, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Per your proposal of a new moratorium at aforementioned article, 6(plus 1 more possibly) users in the move discussion have signaled their support. Should we take this as an informal consensus and impose it and edit the F.A.Q. at the top of Talk:Czech Republic accordingly? R9tgokunks ⯃ 06:22, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@R9tgokunks: it seems fair enough to me - the move proposal you just closed was a clear case of WP:SNOW, and I don't see anything changing in the next 12 months, which makes a moratorium a sensible option. Obviously you and I were both WP:INVOLVED, since we opposed the move, but I wouldn't think there'd be a problem with applying a moratorium given the nature of the result. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 10:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: thank you again! I do enjoy my annual precious notification, it is a great thing. I played violin in a great concert last night, we did Symphony No. 3 (Saint-Saëns), the organ symphony. You'd probably have enjoyed it! All the best  — Amakuru (talk) 08:55, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

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• Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
• Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
• SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington

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Andrevan • Doug • EVula • KaisaL • Tony Fox • WilyD

Bureaucrat changes

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• An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
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Hi. I hope you are well. It has been a few weeks since i was last active in RM, so this request got me a little confused. Would you please take a look at it, and let me know if the request/consensus wants the title "Stephen Glover" to have the body of columnist? Thanks a lot in advance, —usernamekiran(talk) 18:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

The requested move was done but the RM wasn't closed, hence the confusion.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: yes, it looks like the only further action required is to close the RM. The pages are now are the titles for the new consensus.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

​ oh lol. thanks guys. see you around. —usernamekiran(talk) 21:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

Sro23

KaisaL • Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news

• After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
• Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

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• The WMF Anti-Harassment Tools team is seeking input on the second set of wireframes for the Special:Block redesign that will introduce partial blocks. The new functionality will allow you to block a user from editing a specific set of pages, pages in a category, a namespace, and for specific actions such as moving pages and uploading files.