Talk:The Pioneer (Eugene, Oregon)

Synthesis

The "Naming" section appears to be an instance of WP:SYNTHESIS and original research -- the point about the naming of the statue is not cited to an in external reliable source. -Pete (talk) 16:39, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What the statue symbolizes

There is current interest in the symbolism of this statue, and calls for it to be dismantled. In addition to the address given by J. N. Teal, its sponsor, when it was installed, F. V. Holman (then-president of the OR Historical Society) also gave an address on the ""qualities of the Oregon Pioneers" which may be of interest. Thank you Grand'mere Eugene for calling attention to this issue. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 20:53, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Claim: "first statue on campus"

This claim that The Pioneer is the first statue on campus may be true, but the only source I have found so far was written by a student for Oregon Quarterly. I have found only four sculptures on campus that are older:

  • Normal Gate, 1885
  • Wilson Pace Mays Sundial, 1912
  • Seal of the University, 1912
  • Class of 1913 Fountain

Only the fountain appears to have what might be called a statue (can't tell from the pictures, looks like a bird), but it's probably more properly called a statuette. Given no evidence to the contrary, I used the Oregon Quarterly source. --Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There are also references to a series of pub talks given by a History PhD candidate, ""Pioneer Problems: The University of Oregon's First Statue, 100 Years Later". Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:47, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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