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(This discussion has been moved to Talk:Birka_female_Viking_warrior#Discussion_from_user_talk_page) — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LaVerne Krause

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"when full dates appear elsewhere in article, years are sufficient to provide context"

That does mean mean that using full dates is incorrect. ALMOST ALL pages about individuals start with full dates here. We are given an OPTION, not being mandated a rule. Unless you can give me a better reason for not changing it, I intend to add the full dates back. Braintic (talk) 19:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Braintic, I've place a "citation needed" tag next to the birth date listed in the infobox, and you may have noticed the footnote (a) next to the date of death listed there. In general, because the lead paragraph is a brief, summarized overview of content in the article, the lead seldom has footnotes which would duplicate footnotes already present in the rest of the article. In this instance, the date-month-year format in the lead would need to be accompanied by the cn tag for the birth date, and the (a) footnote for the death date, resulting in too much clutter for the lead. If you can produce a source citation for the birth date, I would not object to your preferred listing of the full dates. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Northwest High School (Mcdermott, Ohio)

A few years ago, a public high school from Ohio was deleted due to notability concerns at WP:AFD. I am convinced that this school is notable, but it has been a bit of a pain searching Newspapers.com for sources. Is there anything you can do to help? Thanks. Scorpions1325 (talk) 23:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scorpions1325, I found a few sources, including some for "McDermott Northwest High School". Fun facts: the athletic field is named for Roy Rogers, (not a grad, but a famous local) as noted in this article: Happy Trails, and one of the alums became Miss Ohio in 1995. Obviously these are not substantial coverage, but here are a few more sources:
  • History of the Northwest Local School District (primary source, but good for historical info)
  • A distant dream and College (cont.)
  • Defeats bring layoffs, proytests
  • Southern Ohio schools make safety priority during pandemic
  • NCES Northwest High School
  • Niche ratings
And, the high school building image is still on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Northwest_High_School,_McDermott,_Ohio.jpg
There is not now a district article for Northwest Local School District (Scioto County)., so that's one to add to your to-do list...
Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 02:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! I am not sure where the appropriate venue to go is, considering that this was the deletion discussion. Scorpions1325 (talk) 14:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, there's no WP prohibition against using the same article title as one that has been deleted. However, two other article titles may also be appropriate: either "Northwest High School (Mcdermott)" or perhaps "McDermott Northwest High School", which is commonly used by local press sources, but is not by any official school sources.
You are welcome to use the code format I set up to draft school articles at User:Grand'mere Eugene/sandbox2. Once you have a satisfactory draft, just use the "Move" function on the "Page" tab at the top of the draft article. Let me know if you need help.
Or: Be WP:BOLD! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, here are a few more sources from Portsmouth Daily Times:
  • Visually literate high school art show to open May 4
  • Northwest students gift glass art to SOMC, thanks to ESC artistic residency
  • Justice finds success
However, the newspaper only allows access to 2 sources before imposing a registration or subscription. I was able to see the third source on a second device, but apparently permission is only granted for a single day, as I couldn't see the first 2 today. It may be worthwhile tojust accept free registration. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have anything sourced to the Associated Press or a distant city? Scorpions1325 (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, but non-profit educational institutions are not required to meet WP:NORG: The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports teams. Public schools must meet WP:GNG, which does not require regional or national sourcing. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Aoidh, I know you are busy, but I know you are knowledgeable about this topic. Scorpions1325 (talk) 21:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Scorpions1325, please let me know what concerns you. I'd like to understand. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 07:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At a recent WP:AFD I provided similar sources, and an editor accused me of only providing WP:PRIMARY sources. It is at [[John Marshall High School (Richmond, Virginia)]. It does seem that I have convinced them to vote !Keep though. Scorpions1325 (talk) 03:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can work on this article some time today. Scorpions1325 (talk) 12:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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