Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Turkey/Archive 7

Yes, I've changed the name but I also gave two reliable sources. If they appear to be wrong on the matter, then we have no choice but to change it back to Tunceli. However it seems weird that the name has not 'officialy changed' when Erdogan promised this and implemented a law about this. --Ahmetyal (talk) 09:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The name is still Tunceli Province.(see http://www.tunceli.gov.tr/) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Presently, the name of the province is Tunceli. Please check the following pages The official population statistics for Tunceli Province, Tunceli Province governor's page,Tunceli University page So what is the reason of this discussion ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

It's to decide which of the two names should be used, so that the chosen name may be applied consistently, because at present some articles use one and some the other. When a topic is controversial, a unilateral decision is always bad, and one-by-one changes to pages can take forever to finish. What I certainly want to avoid is a repeat of the problems of a few weeks ago (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive252#User:Master Tyranus reported by User:Ahmetyal (Result: prot), User talk:Redrose64#Tunceli/Dersim Dispute, User talk:Master Tyranus#August 2014), which resulted in a lot of cleanup for myself and other admins. The worst of these was a series of WP:CUTPASTE page moves, which would still have been undesirable even if they had been discussed. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The cut&paste page moves by Master Tyranus (talk · contribs) have resumed after exactly two months. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

News on this topic: Davutoglu will visit the province on Monday and here the name will be changed to Dersim. --Ahmetyal (talk) 23:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC) http://www.subuohaber.com/politika/tunceli-dersim-oluyor-h4878.html

I had made these changes unilaterally, but was soon reverted by User:Bgwhite, who asked me to seek consensus here. So here I am. Here is a sample of what I propose to do in the articles:

Eagerly awaiting comments. Regards. --Mttll (talk) 11:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I see your point. Geographical region and administrative unit are different things. Muğla , Denizli and Afyon have territories out of the Aegean Region. But no harm in considering İzmir, Manisa and Kütahya completely in the Aegean Region. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

If we assume this map is perfectly accurate, Izmir and Manisa seem to have some territory in the Marmara Region, like 1% and 3% respectively. For Kütahya, the figure seems closer to 0.01%. Anyway, that's a relatively minor point. The far more pressing issue is the correction of maps and such. By the way, I forgot to mention: I had added the actual subdivision of the geographical Aegean Region, but it was reverted as well:

--Mttll (talk) 14:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The category Category:Turkey articles missing geocoordinate data now contains over 2000 articles that appear to be eligible for geotagging, but have not been geotagged. I'd greatly appreciate any help that members of this project could give to adding these coordinates. For help in how the geotagging system works, please see Wikipedia:Wikiproject Geographical coordinates. Thanks, -- The Anome (talk) 14:43, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi everybody,

could someone take a look at this little problem here? The thing is that some statistics about Muslim/Turkish(?) casualties are wrongly cited from sources, but now two editors are simply removing the category of Muslim casualties altogether, leaving only Greek and Armenian figures. I am not sure, but I feel this might even be done on purpose, the editors do not engage in discussion, so some help would be appreciated. Thank you 82.217.116.224 (talk) 10:49, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

The Ottoman Turkish name of the Septinsular Republic in the infobox and the one in the intro text are different. Anyone care to work on that? Discuss it here. —  AjaxSmack  15:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm working at WP:WikiProject Cannabis, and we're trying to expand our coverage of "Cannabis in (country)" articles, and I saw that we don't have one for Turkey. Turkey has had an interesting role in cannabis history, commercially, culturally, and legally. We have some suggestions at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cannabis#.22Cannabis_in_.28Country.29.22_articles_for_creation_and_expansion for how to help add more countries to our coverage; anyone here want to help out by covering Turkey? You can use some of our recent articles as a template to see what kinds of facts and details would help! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 12:08, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

In June 2013 the content of the article "Kümbet" which then looked like this was merged into Gonbad, where it seems to sit rather unhappily, and Kümbet was made into a redirect to that article. I found this while looking to make a dab page entry for Kümbet, Seyitgazi which I was stub-sorting: there are also two other villages called "Kümbet".

I've now created a dab page at Kümbet, but am not sure whether the material in the Gonbad page belongs there (and should be edited to merge more gracefully into that page) or should be a stand-alone article. Over to you. PamD 19:00, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Can someone fluent check Van cat for correct usage of Turkish? An anon recently changed Van kediler to Van kedileri, for example (I reverted that since I've never see that spelling in sources to date).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  02:24, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Noun clause "Van kedisi" (sing.) or Van kedileri (pl.) . Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

So what are Van kedi and Van kediler? I've run across both while researching this. Slang, diminutive, regionalism?  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  01:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Van kedi and Van kediler make no sense (auto translation perhaps). Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Some input in the discussion at Template talk:WikiProject Military history#Template-protected edit request on 21 August 2015 would be helpful. Thanks, Bazj (talk) 14:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seydibesir POW Camp The discussion also includes Seydibesir Event Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I created the page Muallim Naci based on the article from Turkish wikipedia. Since Turkish is not a language I posses, can someone please have a look at the article to correct any errors due to bad translation?

Thanks. Mondiad (talk) 02:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations. You've done a good job. There is no factual error. But a it may further be expanded. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. The following requested move discussion would benefit from broader input: Talk:Turks in Bulgaria#Requested move 7 November 2015. Thanks in advance for your participation. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Please provide some input at Category talk:Ottoman Greeks. Debresser (talk) 21:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi!

I'm trying to add Turkish jazz musician Elif Çağlar to Wikipedia but references showing her notability are mostly in Turkish, if anyone can help, i'll be grateful.

Thank you,

Leafm (talk) 17:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)Leafm

Hi, Recently an editor added the infobox on Levant what is supposed to be a Turkish name as "borçlarını ödemeden kaçmak". Someone pointed on the talk page that meaning of separate words reads running away without paying a debts, which sounds insulting and not related to Levant. Google translate does translate the expression as "Levant". Can anyone speaking the language clarify on Levant's talk page and if needed fix the title ? “WarKosign” 07:53, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

In this sense, the Turkish equivalent of Levant is the same as in English. "borçlarını ödemeden kaçmak" is just a homonym and it has nothing to do with this usage. So I'll remove it. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:15, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

The deletion discussions Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ugur Cooling and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ugur Group Companies could benefit from input by editors conversant in Turkish and able to judge the reliability of the articles' sources. There is also User:Badursun/sandbox, an attempt to merge the two articles. Huon (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The article on Greece-Turkey relations is strange and adjectival instead of state title. The intro also does not introduce the countries by their formal names, but adjectival. This is not the case for the foreign relations of other states/countries. I request they be renamed to Greece-Turkey relations per WP:COMMONNAME--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 02:48, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hello. Please can someone familiar with Turkish politics have a look at the Kumlu article? It seems to have declared independence from Turkey, but I'm not sure exactly which statements on the page are true. Thanks, Certes (talk) 20:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Now mostly resolved, but there are a couple of Citation Needed tags left if anyone here knows the area. Certes (talk) 09:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Kumlu is a small settlement in Turkey. There is no story of independence of the town. I wonder what gave you the impression of independence ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for confirming that there is no history of independence. Previous versions of the article claimed that the town was independent. I now understand that these claims were incorrect, and they have been removed from the article. Certes (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

So for all who probably heard, Israel and Turkey signed a reconciliation deal. I invite all members of the project to contribute to the article.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 18:30, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Turkey is one of the few big countries missing this overview topic. See the template at National symbols of Japan, for example. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:47, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi there, would anyone be of assistance on the Turkish people article? I have worked really hard to find as many sources as possible for the populations in the infobox (everything was even quoted - I used censuses and mostly academic sources). But I have continuously been reverted and nobody is having a discussion with me to solve the dispute. What should I do? One of the users has threatened to block me. But I just wanted to correct the figures because they are all distorted. This is what they keep reverting it to [16] and this is my edits [17]. O.celebi (talk) 08:50, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the problem stems from a Turkish source. But I observe that you have also used English sources. Try to rely on English sources and correct figures if necessary. (Unfortunatelly I don't have those sources.) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi. I was wondering if you'd be interested in me setting up Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey), based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge and Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). Now it's not a contest in itself, it's designed to motivate people to inspire others to improve content and build something which demonstrates the hard work going into the country which is visible. The focus is more on quality improvements but new articles are welcome too. Eventually a Turkish National Contest could be created to fuel it, like Wikipedia:Awaken the Dragon, in which contestants can choose to keep the Amazon vouchers themselves to buy their own books for more articles or put them into book fund to help editors further improve Turkish-related topics by giving them the books they want. It will begin though as purely an improvement drive. Publicize this, get a group of editors together if interested and we'll start it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:07, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

As I know editors like CeeGee are tremendously resourceful and there's some other decent editors working here I've created this at Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey). I thought once setting up a people add a few articles it will gain momentum and more editors. Good luck with it, hope it encourages people to produce more content! If interested sign up in the participants section on the page!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:52, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

The article Manas Energy Management has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manas Energy Management.  --Lambiam 22:56, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Does Demokrat Partisi refer to all the ones at Demokrat Parti or just one of them as it does now? -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 05:13, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

As far as I can see it refers to the party in Cyprus. There has never been a party named Demokrat Partisi in Turkey. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:19, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey folks! While looking through the piles of orphaned articles, I stumbled upon All Progressive Youth Association which has been tagged as an orphan and had no refs for 7 years. It currently consists of a single sentence. I can't find any English-language sources to add to the article or find somewhere to link to it. Any chance someone more familiar with the subject matter (and maybe able to read Turkish?) could take a look? If you could find a ref and maybe even de-orphan the article, that'd be incredible. If there's really nothing out there on the topic, maybe we can consider taking it to AfD. Thanks a bunch! Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 00:29, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

We have a new article Cannabis in Turkey, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Turkish sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to make a translated version for Turkish Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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Came across this newly created page. I can't seem to find any sources on it. Given the title and the connotations, I thought I would post here to see if anyone had thoughts as to if it is actually a movement that merits inclusion. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Frankly I wasn't aware of this party. But I checked it. Yes it exists. [18] Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:52, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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There's an unrelated discussion at Talk:İznik pottery also. In ictu oculi (talk)

I've noticed a new editor creating a lot of new articles which need polishing and verifying. He/she is focussed on articles about Turkish people and, since I'm unable to read the source material in Turkish, I can't provide the support needed. Could you please take the time to have a look at some of the new articles and help out. Thanks. Cabayi (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

His earlier stubs were like auto translation articles and I kindly warned him on 22 Dec. I hope he'll be more careful. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

A list of the articles (59) and drafts (540) they have created till now can be found here. 103.6.159.84 (talk) 02:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Please reassess for C-class rating. ThanksKeith-264 (talk) 15:24, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Anyone? ;o)Keith-264 (talk) 12:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

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• Elmayı Top Top Yapalım
• https://hbogm.meb.gov.tr/modulerprogramlar/programlar/muzik_gosteri/T%C3%BCrkHalkOyunlari/THO_SakaryaYoresiKadinOyunlari.pdf --Samizambak (talk) 10:13, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

@Samizambak: sorun nedir? :) In ictu oculi (talk) 22:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you :)--Samizambak (talk) 12:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hoyda_yarim Samizambak (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tiridine_band%C4%B1m Samizambak (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

The article on Kadir Mısıroğlu has been the subject of a series of POV edits either promoting or criticising his views. Help appreciated. TIA Andrewa (talk) 18:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. I'm trying to improve some Turkey-related articles but since they are a mess and the total improvement is a must, i need a hand with it. Contact me if any of yous willing to help. kazekagetr 08:21, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure. I'm willing to collaborate Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@Nedim Ardoğa: Hello there mate. I've requested peer reviews for Turkish Armed Forces and all of its main branches. And I've also asked for a review for Turkey in order to show us the way for a FA status. I'm currently awaiting those. I would be very grateful if you were to help me improve. kazekagetr 08:12, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, folks. I've been working on a draft in my userspace, [19], for which one of the most substantive sources is in Turkish [20]. Is there anybody here who can help with translation? I didn't want to rely on google for anything but the most basic stuff. Shouldn't be too difficult, it's only a few paragraphs. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 14:40, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I'd be glad to help. But unfortunatelly this is not in Turkish. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:40, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

@Nedim Ardoğa: Huh, you're right. I didn't realize at first, just kind of guessed...google says its in Kurdish, not Turkish. How about this? This does seem to be in Turkish, and is also a little longer than my other sources. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 05:29, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

@Nedim Ardoğa: pinging you again; maybe you missed it the first time? Vanamonde (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

This has got to be the lowest priority thing I can think of related to Turkey, but I'm going through all the "List of butterflies of ..." lists and the one for Turkey (List of butterflies of Turkey) has what appears to be the species names in Turkish. That's cool. Most lists don't have the native language. The thing is that Wikipedia's style is to have species common names in lower case, except for proper names. Not speaking Turkish, I can't easily tell what are proper names and what are not. I've made a copy in my userspace with all the names in lower case at User:SchreiberBike/sandbox/List of butterflies of Turkey. If someone could go through that and capitalize the proper names, I'd be happy to do the rest. Thanks in advance,  SchreiberBike | ⌨  15:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

I've identified the proper names and updated List of butterflies of Turkey. If anyone is interested in checking my work, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm doing research regarding the butterflies above and using Turkish Wikipedia. I've found the phrase "_O_R_O_S_P_U_S_U_N_U_Z_!_" all over the place there with what appears to be a user's signature in articles. The user at Turkish Wikipedia is at https://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:SeyitA&redirect=no . I speak no Turkish so I can't tell what's going on but I want to bring it to someone's attention.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  00:39, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

The article Fevzipaşa (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Disambiguation not required. Fevzipaşa (the town) now refers to Fevzi Pasha (disambiguation) (Ottoman/Turkish generals named Fevzi) in a hatnote.

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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Ferhat Pasha (disambiguation)#Requested move 25 May 2017. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:13, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

• Is the subject notable? No such page in tr Wikipedia.
• Unsourced, very short.Xx236 (talk) 07:15, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

• There is no need for a subject to be considered as not notable because there is no page of it in another language WP. I am adding now at least one reference. CeeGee 11:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
• Do we includes theatres in WP ? If the question is yes, then this topic is notable enough.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:37, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Needs images. I found some that may be relevant added to a tr wiki article, but since I rely on machine translation, I am not sure if they are indeed relevant - see Talk:2017 March for Justice. I used Creative Commons search and found some more at [21], but again, many have turkish description, so I am hesitant to upload any without help from Turkish speaker(s) to verify they are indeed relevant. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 18:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Junayd of Aydın; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 11:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I've expanded the List of windmills in Ireland. There is an equivalent list on the Turkish language Wikipedia, which can be expanded using the information in that list. Mjroots (talk) 06:29, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

There is no "Anadolu Airport", I updated the page with statistics, but the naming is sloppy. But there are talk pages involved so I don't know if I could simply process this change.

Renaming and redirect of Anadolu Airport to Eskişehir Hasan Polatkan Airport. Renaming of Eskişehir Airport to Eskişehir Air Base. Create Disambitious page at Eskişehir Airport to Eskişehir Air Base and Eskişehir Hasan Polatkan Airport. Update Anadolu University Airport to redirect to Eskişehir Hasan Polatkan Airport. Jbarthel (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello! Could someone please translate into English the Islam Ansiklopedisi's entry on the Mihaloğlu family for use in our article? Thank you in advance. Constantine ✍ 20:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

If someone familiar with sources on the imperial family in the early 20th or late 19th centuries could offer an opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Münire Sultan (daughter of Şehzade Ahmed Kemaleddin), it would be quite helpful. Nyttend (talk) 00:55, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

I am a very infrequent editor but I would like to offer help here. Let me know where the most need is. Interests are military, military history, aviation, historical and current political events, etc.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudavendigar (talk • contribs) 16:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Turkey

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod ^talk 19:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi. If you have time, please take a look on meta at this page m:Wiki4MediaFreedom contest. It's an event organized by Rossella Vignola (OBC), there is a list of articles to improve also on English wikipedia.--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me save this one!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dear wikipedians, for the last two years now, I have seen the Turkish people article in a complete mess. It is time for the nationalist nonsense to stop (whether pan-Turkish or anti-Turkish). Are there any wikipedians willing to help me write-up an objective article? O.celebi (talk) 17:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

This is an old article created in 2005. Exactly what may be wrong or racist ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

To begin with, the following sentence has been added without any discussion. "It has been discovered through the Turkish genealogy database that at least 2 million of those who identify as Turks are in reality ethnically Armenian, most of whom were survivors of the Armenian Genocide" neither of the sources cited claim this. The closest is from the independent article saying "Perhaps two million Turks have Armenian grandmothers" at the very end. Robert Fisk is not a historian or demographer nor does he have access to Turkish Geneology data and yet an offhand comment is being deliberately misrepresented as fact. Bertan92 (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi All - newbie alert! :) Earlier today I reviewed/edited (by way of the WP:ASE list, not because I'd claim any expertise in the subject) a couple of small articles on Turkish villages, and noticed that in both cases the time zone in the infobox was shown as EET (winter) / EEST (summer). AFAIK, Turkey is now year-round on the FET. Assuming I'm right, and further assuming that this is something that needs to be corrected in a number of articles, is there an easy way of doing it (say, a tame bot?) without a lot of manual editing? Or if not, could this be added as a project task (if it isn't already)? Cheers, DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we need a bot to accomplish the task. In the past we also had a term when the summer time was used during the winter. This was a temporary practice and it was soon abandoned. No need to hurry. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nedim Ardoğa: Are you suggesting that Turkey's current FET observance is temporary also? If so, what do you base this on? And as to whether we need to 'hurry' or not, I'm not saying correcting the time zone references should be anyone's top priority, just flagging up an issue that needs addressing at some point (unless you're right, and the country reverts to its earlier time zones). DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:50, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

It probably is. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

This is the third time I am writing this. Hopefully it does not get ignored this time. The following sentence has been added to the Turkish people lead without any discussion. "It has been discovered through the Turkish genealogy database that at least 2 million of those who identify as Turks are in reality ethnically Armenian, most of whom were survivors of the Armenian Genocide". Neither of the sources cited for this sentence claim this. The Al-monitor article does not mention any type of statistics. The closest is from the independent article saying "Perhaps two million Turks have Armenian grandmothers" at the very end. This is made by Robert Fisk. Robert Fisk is not a historian or demographer nor does he have access to Turkish Genealogy data and yet an offhand comment made by a journalist is being presented as though it is the result of an investigation into Turkish genealogy data.

I believe this is an edit made in bad faith as the note on the page history is "expanded the lead a bit..." left by a user who regularly engages in aggressive edit feuds with other users. Bertan92 (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Why don't you make the necessary corrections ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:03, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Looks like somebody has. I still think it doesn't belong in the article. It's an offhand claim made by a random journalist. Can we look into banning the user who made the edit. There are so many violations in this one edit it's not even funny.Bertan92 (talk) 16:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I had a student in one of my Wiki Education courses tell me that some of the content in the article on Özgür Dengiz was plagiarized from the sources in the article. I was wondering if someone fluent in Turkish could go through and help me verify this. I can use Google Translate, but I would greatly appreciate someone who reads the language to examine this as well. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi All, Doltjank has made several page moves of Turkey related articles, At the first glance, It appears to me that these moves were un-necessary. Please review and let me know if you believe these moves need a revert. User:Ammarpad had requested a revert of move at WP:RMT which I have completed. Please let me know if more need to be done. regards. --DBigXrayᗙ 17:21, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Thanks for your attention. It seems that this user is trying to rename some articles with Turkish-language name into their spelling in Greek-language, which is not necessary. Because, the original spelling is Turkish and Greek spelling is its derivative. All moves can be reverted. CeeGee 08:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

CeeGee, Thanks for reviewing them, I will start reverting these moves. If there is any move that you feel is appropriate ( due to a more common English name) please let me know by pointing it here. Doltjank This discussion thread is for your information. Please see WP:RM and follow the procedure, if you want to make any controversial page move in future. regards. --DBigXrayᗙ 09:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done some of the moves, that seemed in-appropriate to me. Some of the moves I have left for further review. if anyone of you require any further move over redirects, message me or post at WP:RMT--DBigXrayᗙ 10:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Pinging User:Calthinus User:Ktrimi991 if they have anything to add, cuz this guy was blocked at SPI today. --DBigXrayᗙ 18:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

DBigXray nice catch -- I was unaware that this was a problem affecting WP:TURKEY too. Thanks for your help-- see also this Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Series_of_unilateral_move_provocations_without_any_discussion_or_consensus, help reverting his page move disruptions would be greatly appreciated. --Calthinus (talk) 18:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done those pages, you asked at ANI have been reverted.--DBigXrayᗙ 19:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 57 15:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello! Over the past few months, I've been working with the Istanbul-based engineering and construction company Enka İnşaat ve Sanayi A.Ş. to draft a new Wikipedia article. You'll notice the existing article is entirely unsourced and there are two warning banners at the top of the page.

I don't edit the main space because of my COI, so I'm looking for an editor to review my proposed draft and update the live article. I've disclosed my COI at Talk:Enka İnşaat ve Sanayi A.Ş., and submitted an initial request to add the proposed company overview.

Is someone from WikiProject Turkey willing to take a look? Thanks in advance for any help. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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The Greenair article would benefit from additional sources. As the airline was Turkish, it seems likely that Turkish WP:INDEPENDENT WP:RS would have covered its rise and fall, probably in more detail than English language sources did.

I would be grateful if WikiProject Turkey members would be willing to locate such sources and either to cite them in the article to improve WP:VERIFIABILITY and to help establish WP:NOTABILITY; or at least to leave a list of them below and to ping me so that I know you have done so.

Many thanks in advance, Zazpot (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

There is a request for comment on the reliability of TRT World on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at WP:RSN § RfC: TRT World. — Newslinger talk 08:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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Hey, guys! I started The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey. I don't know if/when I'll get around to finishing the article, but note that it's controversial.

An important thing: Take WP:WEIGHT into consideration! Do a literature review (read all of the associated book reviews), and write the article giving the majority positions the most weight. Give minority positions less weight.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 15:34, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I think this article needs to be renamed. Calling it simply dondurma is wrong. See Talk:Dondurma#Suggesting_rename. Tesekkürler :) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Constantinople#RFC_on_whether_to_change_the_end_date_of_this_article_to_1930, an RFC on whether to change the scope of Constantinople to 1930 instead of to before the Ottoman period. WhisperToMe (talk) 10:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

I've just created Talk:Turkish language § Pronunciation of Türkçe:

The Turkish word for the Turkish language is Türkçe, as given in the second cell of the infobox of Turkish language. The next cell gives its pronunciation in IPA and a link to a sound file,

Commons:File:Tr-Türkçe.oga: [ˈtyɾctʃe] ^ⓘ.

That file's Description is

Audio recording of "Turkish" (Türkçe, IPA: [tyɾktʃe]) in Turkish. Recorded and uploaded by Atilim Gunes Baydin (native speaker).

Note the difference: the letter k pronounced in the infobox as the unvoiced palatal stop [c], and in the file description as the unvoiced velar stop [k]. ("[c]" here is the IPA symbol, not the Turkish letter.) The difference, probably due to palatalization of /k/ before the palatal affricate /tʃ/, may be insignificant or may not be. I don't know enough about Turkish to tell; we need an expert here. --Thnidu (talk) 01:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Please see wikidata:Talk:Q12560 for a request for comment on how the capitals of the Ottoman Empire should be displayed on Wikidata. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I've deleted a paragraph from Spoonmaker's Diamond as having no apparent bearing on the subject, and pasted it into my talk page comment Talk:Spoonmaker's Diamond#Dr. Ortayli was in that symposium; so what? in case someone can make it work. Please see that comment for details. --Thnidu (talk) 23:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I created an article for him, but most sources I see are in Turkish. A little more expansion and this should be eligible for a DYK. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:07, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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This deletion discussion might be of interest to people here: wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Queerly_Bohemian/Userboxes/FreedomFighters.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 17:31, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Glad to see Turkey is fully back online. See Access to Wikipedia restored in Turkey after more than two and a half years.--Ipigott (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Well after nearly three f*cken years it feels really good to be back. kazekagetr 17:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey guys, could one of you who speaks Turkish check out the draft at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Draft_Review? The draft is Draft:Yahşi Baraz. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:28, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

All right, I’ll check it out. Regards, Rodrigo Valequez (talk) 08:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

In 1812 there seems to have been a significant plague outbreak in the Ottoman Empire, which seems to have begun in Constantinople and traveled to other parts of the empire including Egypt, and later also spread outside of the empire's borders.

It seems to have had a massive impact, but it is barely covered on Wikipedia. There's an article about Caragea's plague which hit Wallachia (then an Ottoman vassal) in 1813–14, and I am currently in the process of writing an article on the 1813–14 Malta plague epidemic. Both seem to have derived from the 1812 Constantinople outbreak (it arrived in Malta via Egypt).

I think it would be useful if there would be an article covering the entire outbreak - would any members of this WikiProject be willing to help out? A source about the outbreak in Odessa can be found here.

I am also making this request on other WikiProjects including WP History, WP Medicine and WP Egypt.

Xwejnusgozo (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I created a stub at 1812–19 Ottoman plague epidemic. Any further expansion is very welcome! Xwejnusgozo (talk) 18:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

I found differences between the ENwiki List of Sheikh-ul-Islams of the Ottoman Empire and the TRwiki tr:Osmanlı şeyhülislamları listesi. Is there a definitive list of Sheikh-ul-Islams that can be used to check this?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

The terms "Aurat", "Arvad", "Avret", and "Awrath" may refer to: Women of Asian religious or cultural descent and identity.

Self nomination for AFD since article copy pasted to Draft:Aurat for incubation because IMHO current article title Aurat (word) is misleading and confusing leading to western systemic bias and stifling the article growth. Please find Detail reason at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aurat (word)

I invite project members to review current and potential sourcing and weigh in on the AfD discussion. Thanks! Bookku (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear users of WikiProject Turkey:

At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Former_countries#Make_WikiProject_Ottoman_Empire_a_task_force_of_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Former_countries? I have left a proposal to convert Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottoman Empire into a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries. I asked this project (as Turkey was the most integral part of the Ottoman Empire) and several other projects to get further feedback. Please let me know if you have questions, comments, or objections. @Quantocius Quantotius:

Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 01:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

The author of Draft:Ali AL-Suleiman is requesting review. Please check underlying sources for notability.

Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 14:49, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Found this in the new page feed for an oldie, if any Turkish editors can help fix it up, cheers. Govvy (talk) 21:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I am trying to create two articles on entari and gambaz. Can someone lead me to some appropriate sources (online sources, if possible). I also posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fashion. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 01:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Having just created the article Kesecek Köyü inscription, I would like to link to the village of "Kesecek", 25km northeast of Tarsus. Can anyone here help identify the coordinates of this place? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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Could some more knowledgeable editors look at this article? I can't easily find anything to substantiate it, the article on Osman I makes me suspicious that records this specific could exist, and the event doesn't seem to be mentioned in the book Byzantium and the Turks in the Thirteenth Century. It's translated from tr.wiki, and just hesitant about potentially being involved in a hoax... Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Please see this request for comment on whether Ottoman capital city should be referred to as "Constantinople" or "Istanbul": Talk:History_of_Istanbul#Should_the_name_"Istanbul"_be_used_for_the_Ottoman_city_instead_of_"Constantinople"? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

If you know anything. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:23, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Is this person notable? Bearian (talk) 20:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Bearian, I think no. The person only has a profile on Scholar and some news about his resignation from rectorate and then his arrest because of his ties with FETÖ. I don't think these don't mean that the person notable per Wikipedia:Notability (academics) since there's not any major coverages about the person. Ahmetlii (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

I welcome your input at this location: Talk:Russia–Turkey proxy conflict#Move portions to other articles, or what else? --George Ho (talk) 17:34, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hello - can anyone solve my confusion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kardemir#Power_stations_confusing ? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:10, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

There is a dispute about an alleged legal incident involving a Turkish celebrity. The sources are all in Turkish, so input from Turkish speakers would be welcome. See Talk:Can Yaman. Fences&Windows 14:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Yükseköğretim Kalite Kurulu was created by a paid editor.

It would help AFC reviewers like myself a lot if someone who knew the topic could do a quick "notability assessment" and put "likely", "unlikely", or "not obviously likely or unlikely" on Draft talk:Yükseköğretim Kalite Kurulu, along with the sources that provide evidence of "notability." If it's notable or at least not "unlikely", a translation would be helpful. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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Turkish actor. I think we have an English language systemic bias. What we have here is a failure to communicate. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

At Siloam_inscription#Repatriation_Efforts we are missing the Turkish perspective on the dispute between Israel and Turkey over this ancient inscription. Help from anyone who is able to read the Turkish press would be appreciated. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:31 March Incident § Proposed merge of Ottoman countercoup of 1909 into 31 March Incident. Jr8825 • Talk 16:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC) Jr8825 • Talk 16:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey/archive1 a reviewer has commented:

"The economics focuses very heavily on monetary policy; what about demand-pull and demand-push policies (f.i. producement and other softer instruments)? Only one sentence mentioned under the Fossil fuel subsidies section (which isn't a subsidy) The economics section focuses a lot on GDP; what about employment."

I looked at Economy of Turkey to see if that might help but am struggling with my lack of economics knowledge - can anyone advise how to improve Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Economics? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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The article Oltu has "Urban" and "District" statistics from 2012, but the site seems to have been deleted. tr:Oltu only has one population, from 2020, but doesn't specify whether it's the town or the district. The source is https://data.tuik.gov.tr/Bulten/Index?p=Adrese-Dayali-Nufus-Kayit-Sistemi-Sonuclari-2020-37210 but that isn't the page with the information, it only links to the tables. The tables with titles that suggest they could contain this information only have the population of provinces - which table do I need? Peter James (talk) 10:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I've found it - https://biruni.tuik.gov.tr/medas/?kn=95&locale=tr and click the blue button labelled "Favori Raporlar". Peter James (talk) 13:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Urban and rural pop. figures for the so called 30 metropolitan municipalities are hard to find. Oltu (in Erzurum Province) is one of them. For the other 51 provinces there is no problem Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

After successfully completing our Asia and Africa contests over the past six months, we now welcome contributions to our Women in Europe contest which runs for three separate months from April to June 2021. To qualify for the contest, articles have to contain at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text and participants need to be members of Women in Red. We look forward to lots of new biographies of women from the European districts of Turkey.--Ipigott (talk) 06:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Anyone any ideas about reliable sources in Turkish? If so please could you reply at

Talk:Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Are_these_Turkish_sources_reliable_please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidgk1 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't look that active around here, but if there are any Turkish editors around they maybe interested in the AfD discussions at Fenerbahçe 6–0 Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe S.K. 0–7 Galatasaray S.K. It may help to shed some light how notable they are in Turkish football. Cheers. Govvy (talk) 09:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Thousands of stubs, like this one, are currently being created by User:Lugnuts about the villages of Turkey. Though seeing the coverage expanded is good, the articles seem to consist only in a single sentence naming the district the village is in, and an infobox that gives the population. They're all sourced to https://www.koyumuz.net/, a private weather website, so I'm wondering how reliable is the information there? Is that overall a good idea? – Uanfala (talk) 14:50, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

This one is supposed to be a stub. With future additions it will be improved. By the way, for population a more reliable source is [22]. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Some editors are unsure of its reliability. The source I mentioned at #Population looks more official; there is also https://biruni.tuik.gov.tr/nufusmenuapp/menu.zul where the most recent date is 2000, and for villages in some districts the sources are the same as in our articles but in others (for example Karapınar, Gölhisar and others in the same district) they are different. Peter James (talk) 14:18, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

This is currently being discussed at ANI. It would make more sense to cover these within the District article; I started doing this for villages within Şenkaya, which literally consisted of "X is a neighbourhood in the Şenkaya District of Erzurum Province in Turkey" with no population or location data, but I was reverted by the editor who created the stubs. These were sourced to a table on a government website [23]. –dlthewave ☎ 17:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Stubs with no location and no population shouldn't be created, but redirects are no better. There are so many villages in these districts that when information is added to the list it will become too long and less useful. Anyone looking for information about a specific place is unlikely to be looking for the district page, or any of 67 other places in the district. Peter James (talk) 19:58, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Taking Şenkaya as an example, if the district has a population of 2,803 and consists of 66 neighbourhoods/villages, that's ~42 people per neighbourhood/village. Do we really need articles for every neighbourhood/village? Some of which may not be actual communities but what this book (admittedly from 1974 so things may have changed) refers to as "scattered patterned Mahalles"? Census tracts were explicitly excluded from being legally-recognised places under WP:GEOLAND and these villages/neighbourhoods seem to fall into the same category. Additionally WP:GEOLAND explicitly excludes "maps and tables" from being proof of notability since they include no more information than that the place exists (and hence that is all the information our article will likely ever contain), and the website used for these articles is basically just a map/table with names on it.

Even setting aside the above WP:GEOLAND concerns, does it really make any sense to start articles for every neighbourhood/village in Turkey? There are at least 16,803 mahalles and 18,214 köy according to our article on Villages of Turkey, for a total of at least 35,017 such units. Is the proposal to have an article for every single one of them consisting only of "X is a neighbourhood in Y district of Z province, Turkey"?

My personal preference is only to have articles for those neighbourhood/villages that pass GNG and redirect the remainder to district level. FOARP (talk) 19:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

32,097 mahalles and 18,208 köy (as of 2020). Also Wikipedia:Systemic bias. Peter James (talk) 20:19, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

So, 50,305 such units. I fail to see how any systemic bias is overcome by creating one-sentence permastubs for such administrative units. For comparison this is greater than the total number of populated areas of any description (49,000 including those that automatically fail WP:GEOLAND, like census-tracts) in the UK, a country of comparable population to Turkey. FOARP (talk) 20:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

The articles would already exist if these were US places; most would exist if they were UK places. The UK doesn't have census tracts; the equivalent areas are identified by numbers (including 171,372 output areas[24]), or have combinations of names and numbers, depending on the level, so it's unlikely that they would be in a list of places. Printed encyclopedias generally have articles much shorter than Wikipedia's articles, and some are one-sentence "permastubs". Peter James (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Having spent a good part of the past year, together with a good number of other editors, AFDing/PRODing mass-created US geofails, I do not agree that articles for what appear to be analogous to lowest-level US census units having average populations in some districts of a few dozen or less would necessarily exist. Please see, e.g., this list for the A-D range of a list of articles I prod'd, AFD'd, and re-directed. We also have the recent case of the mass-created Iranian “village” articles, many of which are (according to the overwhelming consensus currently in the discussion) going to be simply deleted in bulk, with potential sanctions for the creator also being discussed. Finally we also have the case of Dr. Blofeld’s attempt at creating geostubs by algorithm based on GEONET data back in 2008 or so - they got as far as the Cs before people told him simply to stop because there is just no way to ever properly verify so many single-source articles. Mass-creation of Geostubs based on a single source containing practically no information beyond the name of the location is always a bad idea. FOARP (talk) 05:19, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

"Do we really need articles for every neighbourhood/village?" is a loaded question. The answer of course, is yes, per WP:5P1. The problem FOARP relates to for creations done by Carlos (and others) in the distant-past is that the EN articles became the starting point for lots of other wikis to copy that same article, complete with mistakes. So lots of these places in California don't exist, or if they do, they are not "villages" or whatever California calls populated places. However, the Turkish places are the other way round. They clearly already exist, and have a population, so meet WP:GEOLAND. Some of these places in Turkey have 40 or 50 people living there, some have hundreds, even thousands. Wikipedia:Systemic bias is a great point too. Looking at some US places at random, what is the difference between New Union, Alabama, or Chestervale, Illinois, or Finchville, Nebraska, etc, etc. And please be smart and don't cite WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, as that is an essay. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

WP:5P1 says that Wiki is a gazeteer. It does not say that Wiki is a place to create tens of thousands of unimprovable micro-stubs consisting of the same cut/pasted sentence, regardless of notability or sourcing, spending ~90 seconds or less on each article (including rating it and creating a talk page!) so you can catch up with Encyclopedius/Dr. Blofeld on this table. And yes, all you're proving with your US geo articles is that this is a bad problem on Wiki that we should not be making worse. FOARP (talk) 07:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

So apart from your own dislike of stubs, where does it say that "It does not say that Wiki is a place to create tens of thousands of unimprovable micro-stubs consisting of the same cut/pasted sentence, regardless of notability or sourcing, spending ~90 seconds or less on each article (including rating it and creating a talk page!)..." is not allowed? Which policy is this? Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:12, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

And the bit "...of unimprovable micro-stubs..." is quite obviously bollocks, per the creation of Babakale, Ayvacık, which got a DYK. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

That would be WP:GNG, WP:GEOLAND (which explicitly excludes maps/tables from being used to establish notability) and also WP:MEATBOT (which explicitly says that bot-like human editing is covered by the same policies as covered apply to mass-creation of articles by bot). Actually WP:V also applies. DYK is explicitly NOT an indicator of page-quality, no-one is saying that a GNG passing community shouldn't have an article, and if I were you I would not be trying to take credit for the work that CeeGee did in fixing that particular stub. FOARP (talk) 07:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

These all meet WP:GNG/WP:GEOLAND, and, of course, by that meet WP:V. "DYK is explicitly NOT an indicator of page-quality" True, but again another false claim by you stating that these articles are "unimprovable". Anyone can see that Babakale, Ayvacık has indeed been improved. And I'm not taking credit (where did I say I was?) It shows that it was improved. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:33, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

There's no way an article with a single reference, where the reference is a single line in a table with a name in it, meets GNG because GNG requires multiple instances of SIGCOV. Similarly, they don't meet GEOLAND because GEOLAND explicitly excludes bare-mentions in tables/maps from being used to show notability. dlthewave's point that this is like throwing a phone-book at other editors and saying "some of these people are famous so let's write an article on every single one of them" is entirely relevant - you know what, I think writing articles about the notable ones and not writing articles about the non-notable ones is a better way to go? WP:V is in doubt because the sources you are using do not actually state that these are even neighbourhoods/villages, much less legally-recognised ones - they simply list these names with no further data. FOARP (talk) 07:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't see the phone book comment that you state - did you make that up as well? Anyway, a "phone book" equivalent here would be every single individual house, which isn't the case. The notable ones are already identified as being populated places, so meeting WP:GNG, GEO, V, etc, etc. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

DLthewave made this comment over on the ANI thread, which I really, really would read carefully if I were you. I note you haven't engaged at all with the WP:MEATBOT point.

You've had two trips to ANI recently related to mass creation of stubs, one of which is still open. I really would take these as a flashing amber warning, not simply as indications that you've done nothing wrong and business as usual should carry on. One thing I think the 2000's mass-creators need to reckon with is the subsequent generations of editors have had to spend a lot of time cleaning up these stubs and so are much less favourably inclined towards creation of them. You might think "well, FOARP's just an annoying, wrong, guy who has a problem with me for some reason" but I'm far from the only one who has a big problem with these mass-created perma-micro-stubs. FOARP (talk) 07:58, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The first one was closed, as I'm working within the guidelines (per the closer's notes). Again, another false claim by you above - "the sources you are using do not actually state that these are even neighbourhoods/villages" the Turkish source from their gov.tr website states "Mahalle Sayısı" on each page. Translated as "Number of Neighborhoods" which then collates to the list of places. Sorry son, I'm here to build an encyclopedia, not go round the houses with you and your multiple false claims. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I've encountered this before - it's really unhelpful - and quite inconsiderate - to create masses of microstub articles (they're not even worthwhile stubs) in the hope that other editors will come in and expand and improve them. Not only does it clutter the encyclopaedia, but it also causes unnecessary confusion and follow-up work where disambiguation is required while adding nothing to the sum of human knowledge that could not be achieved by listing village names under the district (or equivalent) article. That's what is done elsewhere. Be aware that at least one other editor that did this was subsequently banned permanently. Bermicourt (talk) 18:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

• Note that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ağcakent, Aziziye was closed as redirect. Is there consensus to redirect the various other microstubs created as part of this, as well? I'd certainly endorse that, they don't seem any different than the case brought up there. SnowFire (talk) 19:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

@SnowFire - The other "village" articles are no different and I would take this as read. Absolutely the same logic applies. The above discussion is also pretty clear that there was no consensus in favour of the mass creation of these pages as required by WP:MASSCREATION/WP:MEATBOT (which are policy - I don't know why anyone object to their being cited other than because there is no reasonable counter to them) so redirect is a perfectly appropriate response. Only exception is for those "village" articles that have been expanded to non-stub-status. FOARP (talk) 08:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

I note that Lugnuts is still reverting dlthewave's redirects of these stubs, against the consensus here, at ANI, and at AFD regarding them, and has refused to discuss this issue on their talk page. I invite them to discuss here why stubs of exactly the same nature and sourcing as led to their being sanctioned at ANI with loss of autopatrolled, and which there was a consensus to revert en masse at AFD, and which there is a consensus against above, should not be redirected. Alternatively I suggest they consider other means of dispute-resolution (e.g., discussing with the AFD closing admin Barkeep49 on their talk page, and opening a DELREV case for the AFD if this discussion does not resolve the issue). FOARP (talk) 09:35, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

A discussion between two people, MEATBOT-FOARP and one other user now becomes a consensus? FOARP - are you going to redirect all the stubs for Turkish villages, or just the ones I created? Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:46, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I imagine dlthewave, whose edits you keep reverting, may also make their thoughts known on this, though I believe their views are also clearly against these stubs. FOARP (talk) 10:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I really want hear from that guy. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 10:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, at this point I do think it's appropriate to redirect the stubs based on the spirit of the linked ANI and AFD discussions. This is currently being discussed at AN which is heading toward the same conclusion. –dlthewave ☎ 12:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

If you know the answer, make sure to add it to relevant wiki pages, especially to List of highest railways by country. Thanks! Zach (Talk) 21:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I've noticed quite a few Turkish minor settlements (by that I mean location with typically <200 inhabitants) are tagged as missing coordinates. I am currently going through Category:Turkey articles missing geocoordinate data and was wondering what is the policy of this project towards said settlements, are they to be redirected and merged into lists named after their provinces or is adding geocoordinates to them welcome? Sadenar40000 (talk) 19:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

There's community consensus to merge/redirect these stubs to the District article, e.g. Karaçoban. I started that process a few months ago but haven't been very active. I do copy the coordinates over so you're more than welcome to add them anytime before or after the merge. You might want to check with Deor who has been adding/refining coordinates as well. I have a list at User:Dlthewave/Turkey cleanup, completed merges are at the very bottom with Deor's comments in parantheses. –dlthewave ☎ 15:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

The said community consensus concerned a set of several thousand stubs which were created by the same user earlier this year and consisted of only a single sentence, and even then the consensus was more qualified and situational. My understanding is that:

• If it's one of those articles and it says it's about a neighbourhood (rather than a village), then the preference is for redirecting;
• If it's one of those articles and it's not about a neighbourhood, then it's up to editor discretion, without any particular objection to redirecting at scale;
• If it's not one of those articles, then the preference is against redirecting (though obviously that's subject to editor discretion in individual cases).

If there's any recent discussion that contradicts the above, then please let me know. – Uanfala (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that's my understanding as well, I guess I spoke too broadly since I'm mostly focused on those mass-created "neighborhood" stubs. Would you agree that it makes sense to add coordinates to all of them, since they'll be preserved through any merges/redirects? –dlthewave ☎ 22:30, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, adding coordinates sounds useful. Although maybe some caution is necessary for those stubs that are not reliably sourced. If I'm not mistaken, there are still quite a few that are based on koyumuz.net or other similar websites, so if coordinates are added for these, then it's probably worth double-checking they're watertight. – Uanfala (talk) 14:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

I have never requested "In the news" but I guess this is not significant enough? To make it long enough for "Do you know" it would be great if you could add more. Also if you are nearby and can do so safely please add pics to Wikimedia commons and "Category:Wildfires in Turkey" so one can be added to the article. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:25, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Modanlı, Ağın has been at AfD since 18 July, relisted twice due to lack of comments. As the nom, I would encourage interested editors to participate so we can reach consensus one way or the other. –dlthewave ☎ 21:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello WikiProject Turkey. Kadir Mısıroğlu is a biography of a lawyer/writer where two camps of editors have err... let's say quite different opinions about various key points. Could we please get some independent input to turn it into an WP:NPOV article? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

If there's someone who can arrange a usable picture, please do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Disclaimer: I've nominated the article to GA and DYK.
Hello, there's a question about reliability of the sources on the page, raised by a reviewer on on DYK nomination. Could someone interested in the topic review the sources on the page? Thanks. Ahmetlii (talk) 15:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello there. I recently focused a bit on Ottoman Empire/Turkey and Turkish people and edited/created some articles about them. After editing List of Ottoman Grand Viziers, which contained several inaccuracies (and other self-promoting assumptions, such as calling a South Slav or a Bosnian a "Serbian"),a user, 1Breda1, has now attempted two times to change ethnicities in the article, in an attempt to promote themselves. Now this is user is promoting Serbia, but I don't doubt that in the future any other Balkan national may come around. I don't agree with mentioning ethnicity there, but if so, then let's say things right. I wanted to let you know that I detected this issue with this article (for which I'll ask for protection, though I'm afraid it'll be useless, since the person has created an account), and also tell you that I look forward for someone to have a look at List of Ottoman Grand Viziers to cross-check if everything I edited is ok. Cheers.--Haldir Marchwarden (talk) 17:37, 1 September 2021 (UTC) Haldir Marchwarden, maybe you'd better focus on something other than Balkan history!? You are very ill-informed or very ill-intentioned! You are the one who've changed the original source and ignores the fact that ±80% of the population of the Balkans is of Serb descent and that they are regularly mentioned as such in the Greeks, Bizantynes, Romans, Ottoman Tutkish, Germans...chronicles! If you deliberately want to avoid thousands of years of Serbian historical presence in the Balkan Peninsula by calling them "South Slavs", then you should as well call all other Balkan nation "South Slavs", not just the Serbs! South Slavs are divided linguistically into Eastern (Bulgarian and Macedonian) and Western groups (Slovenians, Croatian, Bosnian, Serb, and Montenegrin), and religiously into Orthodox (Serbs, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Montenegrins), Catholic (Croats, Slovenes), and Muslim (Bosniaks, Pomaks and other minorities). An estimated 35 million South Slavs and their descendants live worldwide. Among the South Slavic ethnic groups that are also nations are the Serbs, Bulgarians, Croats, Bosniaks, Slovenians, Macedonians, and Montenegrins. Bosniaks (Serbs converted to Islam), Serbs (Orthodox), and Croats (Roman Catholic) are the constituent nations of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Among South Slav minorities or self-identifications are the Yugoslavs (former Yugoslavia), ethnic Muslims - also known as Bosniaks (former Yugoslavia), Torbeshi (North Macedonia), Pomaks (Bulgaria, Greece) and Gorani (Kosovo). The Catholic Bunjevci and Šokci, concentrated in northern Serbia and eastern Croatia, are divided between Croatian and local identities. There are also smaller communities of West and East Slavic peoples in northern Serbia! 10:59, 3 September 2021

Greetings,

I have taken up one article Draft:Hayriye Melek Hunç for development. Hayriye Melek is author and woman of Circassian descent.

I came across tr:Kategori:Çerkes asıllı kişiler on Turkish Wikipedia but I am not comfortable reading and understanding Turkish language. I would be thankful if some one can help me out

I wish to take some more articles about women of Circassian descent. Can some one help me finding out articles about women of Circassian descent from Turkish Wikipedia or other encyclopedic notables who still do not have articles on English Wikipedia.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I checked your draft. It is much longer than the tr version. As for the women you can see them in tr:Kategori:Çerkes asıllı Türkler I glanced the first column. As far as I can see Ayşe Şasa, Aydan Burhan, Celile Hikmet, Çiğdem Batur, Deniz Selin Ünlüdağ have no articles in en WP. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Greetings,

We do have few Circassian women related articles but not a comprehensive article so inviting content contributions in Draft:Circassian women.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 05:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

There is an RfC there that concerns this topic. Every opinion or other input is welcome. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:55, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

A new article was created about the political slogan "Yeter! Söz Milletindir!", titled at Enough! The Word Belongs To The People! I have proposed an RM that could use more input; in particular commentary on the most accurate English translation of the slogan is welcomed. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:06, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

力 A bit late, but "Enough, the nation has the word" and "Enough! It's the people's turn to speak" are both wrong. I'd say it's either the current title or "Enough, the people have the say" with myself leaning just a veeery tiny bit on the latter because it sounds better in English. The current title is a verbatim translation, so it isn't quite English-y, if you understand what I mean. xD ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 14:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I've been redirecting village/neighborhood stubs to their districts per this discussion. The original set of articles created by Lugnuts was unreliably sourced and didn't include population, but Ymblanter pointed out that places such as Şirinköy, Bartın did include government-sourced population stats which are now being lost. I'm wondering whether these numbers are relevant enough to include in district-level neighborhood lists such as Bartın, since I don't recall seeing it being done this way elsewhere. –dlthewave ☎ 19:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dlthewave, the village population is definitely encyclopaedic information and needs to be restored where it had been sourced to a government source (not to Koyumuz). I prefer standalone articles for villages per reasons that I've explained here. In line with that, I note that articles like Bartın already have an undue amount of information on the "neighborhoods" (which are not neighborhoods but villages), and adding the population info would make the problem worse. That being said, I wouldn't hold you back from adding the info there, as long as it's restored one way or another. --GGT (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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There is a Featured Article Save Award nomination at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Italian War of 1521–1526/archive1. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped save this featured article from demotion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:34, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I have been working on the article SS Germanic (1874), which operated under Ottoman/Turkish ownership for many years. The article says the ship was renamed from Gul Djemal to Gülcemal in the 1920s, however my understanding is, this was more of a re-spelling of the name than a renaming, as I understand that the Turkish alphabet was altered around this time. However, I don't speak Turkish, so I thought I would ask here for assistance from any Turkish speakers. G-13114 (talk) 15:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi G-13114. Your interpretation is correct, there indeed doesn't seem to have been any renaming - the Latinised Turkish alphabet was adopted in 1928 and Gul Djemal is an outdated rendering of Gülcemal as transcribed from the previous alphabet. I'll also ping Khutuck, who likes to work on the warship articles on tr.wiki; he may be of further assistance. --GGT (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, that's what I thought :) I've amended the article accordingly. G-13114 (talk) 20:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Greetings,

Hi, I am User:Bookku, my expectations to get expanded Black sea related articles failed miserably. I am expecting and requesting at least some help in expanding the article Draft:List of erstwhile slave trading townships with regions surrounding Black sea. In next steps I wish to have a proper map showing erstwhile slave trading townships across black sea.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 10:06, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

"Erstwhile slave-trading [Black Sea] townships" doesn't appear to be an encyclopedic topic. I do not believe it would pass the WP:Notability test, because "townships around the Black Sea that formerly engaged in the slave trade" is not a topic unto itself that is subject to in-depth coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. It wouldn't even make a good WP:Category, because it's not a defining characteristic of those places. Better off creating an article on the historical slave trade in the Black Sea region, and integrating those place names into that regular article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

At Van cat, the wording a couple of years ago was:

named Van kedi (plural kediler or kedileri, possessive genitive kedisi) in Turkish

This was changed to:

named Van kedisi (plural kedileri) in Turkish

Which (if either) of these is correct, and is there a citable way to prove it? I have certainly run into this variety of cat being called Van kedi in Turkish sources, but that doesn't tell us anything about the grammatical relationship between kedi, kedisi, kediler, and kedileri.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

PS: That article could use additional neutral-minded watchlisters. It is subject to bouts of slow-moving editwarring, mostly to censor Kurd-related information out of it, and sometimes to censor it of Armenian details (conversely sometimes to inject irrelevant Armenian details like Lake Van being in an area sometimes called the Armenian Highlands [25]). Also caught someone trying to whitewash out some sourced criticism of a Turkish institution. It's a weird article to attract ethno-nationalistic conflict, but it nevertheless does.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  10:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi SMcCandlish, native Turkish speaker here. "Van kedisi" is definitely the correct version in Turkish and "Van kedi" is definitely incorrect. That is because as a phrase consisting of two nouns in Turkish (isim tamlaması), the second noun would usually need the suffix -i (inflected as required, -si here) to make sense. Likewise, the correct plural form would be "Van kedileri" and not "Van kediler". Whoever wrote the incorrect version was probably a learner of Turkish, this is a mistake often seen in those who don't yet completely have a grasp of Turkish grammar.

You may have seen instances of "Van kedi" as part of larger phrases incorporating more nouns or so forth e.g. "Van Kedi Evi", which literally means "Van House for Cats" (i.e. not strictly limited to Van cats only) - note that this actually has a subtle difference from "Van Kedisi Evi" i.e. "House for Van Cats", which would be understood as taking in only Van cats.

This is WP:SKYBLUE territory for native speakers of Turkish but you can also sort of confirm this by looking at the translations of the keywords in papers such as this. --GGT (talk) 23:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@GGT: Thank you for these details. :-)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)