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Need someone to fix citations in Pechenegs

Hi all!

The references are quite a mess in the bottom of Pechenegs § Late history and decline. I'm not Turkish, so can I ask you people to convert them? Gyalu22 (talk) 11:58, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bütün Dünya magazine

A challenge to the notability of Bütün Dünya magazine has been posted. It appears to need the help a some Turkish speakers. Thank you. SchreiberBike | ⌨  13:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can someone please review edits by Special:Contributions/ The anon has made several edits related to Turkey, India and other countries. While many of their edits seem to be harmless (such as wiki-linking), many are downright vandalism (this one for example). I'm reviewing their India-related edits, but I'm not knowledgable enough about Turkey, so I can't judge whether their changes are vandalism or not. utcursch | talk 06:17, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not a history expert but did not spot any problem in a quick check Chidgk1 (talk) 13:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Derin#Requested move 30 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:22, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Turkey RFC about authoritarianism and democratic backsliding

Talk:Turkey#RFC about authoritarianism and democratic backslidingMoxy-Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg 19:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding info without reliable sources

Hello @Magnum5051

Thanks for adding info about various places but do you have reliable sources? For example you have not yet replied to my questions about your sources for Afşin Chidgk1 (talk) 13:27, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Any active WP Turkey editors

I have a potential concern about current RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. Just going by your recent edits, is this about Talk:İskenderun? Seems like a ludicrous request. Any specific points of concern? GGT (talk) 02:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merger discussion for Organized industrial zone

Merge-arrows.svg An article that you have been involved in editing—Organized industrial zone—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikilala available on The Wikipedia Library


Wikilala, known as the Google of Ottomans, is available now on The Wikipedia Library. Wikilala is an authoritative collection of the Ottoman Empire with more than 100,000 printed documents, including 45,000 newspapers, 32,000 journals, 4,000 books and 26,000 articles, in Ottoman Turkish and Latin. Wikilala’s digital resources cover the history of the Ottoman Empire from its founding to the modern days.

Editors who meet the eligibility criteria (500 edits, 6 months of editing, 10 edits in the last 30 days and no active blocks) can access these resources here - Thank you. VSj (WMF) (talk) 13:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is Erdemli Pine Groove the correct title for this place, or should the last word be "grove" instead of "groove"? I came across the article checking links to umbrella pine, which can refer to a Japanese species (Sciadopitys verticillata) or a Mediterranean species native to Turkey (Pinus pinea). The article does state Sciadopitys, but the source for this is down, and I suspect it should be Pinus pinea (I already fixed an umbrella pine link at Karatepe-Aslantaş National Park, where the article had stated Sciadopitys, but the Turkish language source called it tr:Fıstık çamı). Plantdrew (talk) 17:47, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Infobox and districts

Hi, I've created a new infobox for places in Turkey (municipalities, villages, districts etc.): {{Infobox Turkey place}}. It's a standardized wrapper for {{Infobox settlement}}, which also makes it easier to control the quality of the data shown. Any remarks, comments or questions, just let me know.

Related to this, I've been having some discussions with Semsûrî and GGT about creating separate articles about districts. Currently most of these districts don't have a separate articles, and information about the district is given in the article about the district capital. While in some cases this makes sense to me (if the district has exactly the same area/composition as a municipality), I think in most cases there should be separate articles. Take for instance Palu District and its capital Palu, Elazığ. The district articles could cover the composition of the district, its government, population, geography, history etc., while the articles about the capitals could cover the municipality, its quarters, government, population, geography, history etc. See also how it's done in similar cases, e.g. the arrondissements of France, districts of Germany, cantons of Ecuador, districts of Kyrgyzstan. Thoughts? Markussep Talk 15:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I support this. Semsûrî (talk) 21:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! The district vs. capital situation is rather straightforward for the non-metropolitan provinces (like Elazığ), however I'm confused about the metropolitan provinces. For instance Antalya Province covers a much larger area than the city of Antalya, but there is no municipality for the city proper, apart from the metropolitan municipality = the province. Much of the inner city seems to be covered by Muratpaşa, which is a district and a municipality. Is there a reference somewhere which districts correspond with the city or urban area as shown in the Antalya article? And how is that for the other metropolises? Since apparently all metropolitan districts cover the same area as the corresponding municipalities, I think in these cases there should be only one article covering both district and municipality. Markussep Talk 08:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
From what I understand Antalya city is a metropolitan municipality and the districts it is divided into function as separate municipalities. The districts Aksu, Döşemealtı, Kepez, Konyaaltı and Muratpaşa encompass the city and they are listed as belediyeler here[1]. I assume that this will be the case for most metropolitan provinces - that the capital city is run as various municipalities. Mardin is an exception however, as all of it is in Artuklu District. This was my concern back when I mentioned Istanbul some days ago as it is the same there: You have the metropolitan municipality of Istanbul but then you have its dozens of districts that work as municipalities so you don't have one that encompasses all of the city. Semsûrî (talk) 09:24, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This list of the Antalya Province gives all 19 districts/municipalities (as do all other sources I found so far, like this one), where did you find that Aksu, Döşemealtı, Kepez, Konyaaltı and Muratpaşa encompass the city of Antalya? Markussep Talk 14:40, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Found this government site which actually names six districts on page 2.[2] Semsûrî (talk) 15:25, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nice! If add the areas of these districts, I get 3,290 km2, which is a lot more than the urban area in the Antalya article (1,417 km2), I wonder where that came from. Markussep Talk 16:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Maybe because those six municipalities not only encompass the city but also many rural settlements? Semsûrî (talk) 16:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure if Serik absorbs parts of the city at all - it seems to be centered around Serik city east of the city. Semsûrî (talk) 16:18, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This article excludes Serik as a 'merkez ilçe' which would make more sense.[3]. Semsûrî (talk) 16:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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