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I'm starting to do an article on Takerufuji in one of my sandboxes. Has anyone already created a draft article on him? - OtharLuin (talk) 09:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On that note, the article is now in the main space :) - OtharLuin (talk) 15:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Actually a little surprised that he didn't have an article in the works. Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's the kind of thing that happens when a prodigy jumps a whole division in one tournament :D - OtharLuin (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to notify WP members that tokoyama is now considered a Good Article :)

Looking over the WP's Assessments page, I was also wondering about the chances of promoting Takerufuji to Wikipedia:In the news after his historical championship? Who here had already submitted articles for ITN? - OtharLuin (talk) 07:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have submitted a few. It would be a long shot, but I think it might be worth a try. I remember Hakuho's retirement was nominated, but did not get consensus. (Generally sports retirements are not considered noteworthy enough because they can be reversed....) Takerufuji's record has been picked up outside Japan, eg [1] which is in its favour. Incidentally, any yokozuna promotion is assumed to be noteworthy for ITN per Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items. Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could indeed be complicated... I don't know if there are any article quality requirements for proposing an ITN either. Could you take a look at the article and tell me what you think of its overall condition? It would be a good idea not to delay too long, to avoid going overboard and proposing the article late after the end of the tournament. - OtharLuin (talk) 10:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I proposed a nomination, a hook is also on the Talk page - OtharLuin (talk) 10:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up: the nomination failed. I can't help but be a little bitter about the opinions of some W:ITN members especially when in the course of the month news like the 2024 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game manages to be on the front page without the slightest difficulty... - OtharLuin (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's ITN/R, so presumed to be notable and only judged on article quality. College sports are big in the US I guess. We could get Akebono posted to the Recent Deaths section, but a lot of his post-sumo career needs more citations. Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably true, but I still find it frustrating that the users who vote in ITN are making us heavily dependent on a rule established over 10 years ago and which grants us only 0.3 nominations per year when most sports (even the most incongruous) are entitled to at least two (annual men's and women's competitions)...

This brings me to the point about Akebono, the subject is already discussed here ;) - OtharLuin (talk) 12:32, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I see some supports but it won't get posted until more references are added. Unfortunately it's mostly the pro wrestling section which is not my area of interest :) I'll see what I can do. Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking about this project I had about WP:SUMO conventions after @ArguaBILL: added some yesterday. Since I've been here, I've seen that @JRHorse: and I have slightly different presentation conventions, or even that @Zeyes: also had his own interpretation on the standardization of infoboxes. I'm not even talking about the hazardous assessment ranking

Do you think it would be a good idea for us to discuss the WP conventions in a little more detail on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Sumo/Conventions? This could take the form of a question on the subjects already mentioned and voting 'support' or 'oppose' or adding another idea, as is already done for front page nomination processes?

Adding the most active members to this discussion : @Pawnkingthree:, @FourTildes:, @Hidenotora:, @Kaiketsu:, @Tigerboy1966:

I think it's quite reasonable to reach a consensus even before the May tournament. - OtharLuin (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perfectly happy to have such a discussion, I think's been about 15 years since we had one :) Would suggest leaving a notification here though once it starts, as I doubt many people watch that page. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to add a response here... I put two suggestions out to the talk page yesterday. JRHorse (talk) 12:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]