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Hi! What's the difference between 解説 and 実況? Google translate says "Commentary" for both. Can someone please clarify this? Thanks. Here is the image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSoRWEkHpGLMVRWUWJ1X0ZfT1k/edit?usp=sharing --109.49.103.142 (talk) 05:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I believe that error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) implies simply describing an event which is currently ongoing. For example, a radio announcer who simply describes what they are seeing to the listener without really going into great deal as to why it is happening. error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help), on the other hand, seems to refer to a more deeper type of analysis, i.e., not only commentating on what is happening, but more importantly why it is happening; This could be either during or after an event. When I hear error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help), I think of a play-by-play announcer. When I hear error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help), I think of a color commentator. In the real world there's probably lots of overlap, so this is just my take on what they both mean. - Marchjuly (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks a lot for the two Wiki links! Regards. --109.49.103.142 (talk) 07:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

EDIT - Found the JP article about the guy who is the "play-by-play announcer". :) http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%80%89%E6%95%B7%E4%BF%9D%E9%9B%84 --109.49.103.142 (talk) 07:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Can someone have a look at Talk:Japanese dissidence during the Shōwa period (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs) ? Greg723 (talk · contribs) has left a large number of requests for information/changes on the talk page -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:49, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

What is the meaning and reading of 背中当 on this page? Thanks. (That would go here) bamse (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

From the Nihon Kokugo Daijiten: せなか‐あて 【背中当】(1)板切れをたたみ重ね、紐を付けて背中に負うもの。重い物を背負うときに用いる。しょいこ。連尺。Michitaro (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. bamse (talk) 23:11, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

One more (related) question for the same list: What are ねごばんどり? An explanation is given here as ネゴ編みで作るネゴバンドリ, but I still don't understand the "nego" part. bamse (talk)

What is the reading of 白山神社 in Gero, Gifu? Shirayama Jinja or Hakusan Jinja or...? bamse (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Shirayama. --Prosperosity (talk) 08:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you have an idea for the question/section above? bamse (talk) 09:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea. Apparently "nego" is how some people say "neko" in Yamagata dialect, but I'm not sure if that's any link to weaving in Meiji era Yamagata. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Something has broken the wikitable-I am trying to fix it, it's better but still messed up. Fresh pair of eyes, onegaishimasu!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

It's the |'s! --Prosperosity (talk) 12:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mami Matsuyama needs some help. May anyone find sources about Mami Matsuyama (松山 まみ) using Google Books or other sources? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 03:32, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Refer to Special:Contributions/Gryffindor. It's been a while, so I can't remember, but this is against existing consensus, right? —Xezbeth (talk) 17:55, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

It seems unclear to me. The MOS does start off with "When disambiguation is required:", but the close by Robert McClenon on the relevant RfC says "This does not mean that existing references with city name and prefecture name should be edited to remove the prefecture name, only that its use is not required." The MOS was updated by Curly Turkey, so perhaps he and "Robert McClenon" can provide a little more clarification as to what should be done, if anything, in this case. - Marchjuly (talk)

My undestanding of Robert McClenon's closing statement was that there was neither a rush nor a requirement to move the pages (they're not "wrong" per se), but that moving them to the disambiguated versions was more "correct" and shouldn't be opposed without good reason if someone made the effort to move the pages. Gryffindor is within his rights to make these moves generally, although individual ones may be subject to debate (I disagree with his move from Shizuoka, Shizuoka to Shizuoka, for instance, as it requires disambiguation from Shizuoka Prefecture).

To answer Xezbeth's question: the consensus has, in fact, changed, as you can see at WT:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#RfC: Mandatory disambiguation for Japanese places?. Sitewide there has been a gradual move towards deprecating mandatory disambiguation of placenames. WikiProject Canada, for example, used to follow the WP:USPLACE example, but ditched that requirement about five years ago. There are few Projects left that still require it. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 05:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I've suggested that Sasuke (TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) be split apart into a set of articles. The article "Sasuke (TV series)" is currently over 100kB, so is very large. (it is even larger than the recommended max size for archives) For the discussion see Talk:Sasuke (TV series) -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 10:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:Sasuke (TV series)

The usage of Hello Kitty (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Hello Kitty (Avril Lavigne song) -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

The original title of Kaizo Mario World was "自作の改造マリオ（スーパーマリオワールド）を友人にプレイさせる". According to random people on the Internet, that translates as "Making my friend play through my own Mario hack", but after messing with Google translate I have a feeling that is not quite right. For example, the English translation should have a part that read "Mario (Super Mario World)", like the original Japanese. Can you help me with a better translation? Thue (talk) 08:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The brackets are just clarifying which Mario game it was, I don't see anything too wrong in the translation. "Making my friend play through my Mario hack (Super Mario World)" or something like that should be fine. --Prosperosity (talk) 08:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, if you want the romaji for the title in the article, it's Jisaku no Kaizō Mario (Sūpā Mario Wārudo) o Yūjin ni Purei Saseru --Prosperosity (talk) 08:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Thue (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Can anoyone shed light on this? Ritsumeikan gives the title of the image to the right as 「菓子袋を持つ三美人」. Minneapolis Institute of Arts gives an English title as Three Women with Bills for Sweets. The things these women are holding sure don't look like bags of anything to me, but I'm wary of trusting and American source over a Japanese one. Does (or did) 「菓子袋」 have a meaning other than "bag of confections", or is it likely Ritsumeikan has made a mistake? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

They look like nothing but bags of confections. You can see the characters 菓し, 御干菓子, and 名物 on the bags. Just imagine a flat type brown paper bag. See these. [1] and [2]. I think Ritsumeikan is right. Oda Mari (talk) 10:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:49, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Looking for a translation of the second part (after 附) which would go into List of Important Tangible Folk Cultural Properties. Are those really woodblock prints? I know that Hokusai was active in the area (in Obuse), but why would woodblock prints be combined with lamps? (not as important, any idea whether the Shinano here would be Shinano, Nagano or Shinano Province or something else?) bamse (talk) 12:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

関係資料 would be "related materials". Yes, they are really wood block prints and ink wash painting/墨絵, including the one on the left on this page. Here is the list of them. This page says those prints and drawings have lamps or lights in them. I think it would be Shinano Province. Oda Mari (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. bamse (talk) 10:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I would like to get some opinions about whether it would be better to rename the article from "S/mileage" to "Smileage". The official spelling is "S/mileage", and everyone writes it like this. If the article is renamed, the name's recognizability and distinctiveness will suffer greatly. But... The reason why I've been thinking about this is that I often catch myself pronouncing the name as "Es-mileage". Is the official romanized spelling somewhat confusing to me only, or is it that way to others too? I would especially like to know the opinion of native English speakers. --Moscow Connection (talk) 14:00, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

There is a Request for Comment regarding moving the article title for the city of Shizuoka back to a disambiguated title, following a recent move. Please join the discussion at Talk:Shizuoka#RfC: Proposed revert to disambiguated title. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 23:13, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I've nominated for Featured Article the article for the ukiyo-e print Three Beauties of the Present Day by Utamaro. Please come participate in the review! Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 23:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)