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Hello. There was a change to the {{nihongo}} template families which now causes them to emit an error if there wasn't any Japanese text specified. This is being tracked in Category:Nihongo template errors, which currently has around 1,700 pages. It would be great if members could help work through this. In most cases it will either be an issue with the parameter order, or the template is unnecessarily wrapping English-only text. Thank you. Opencooper (talk) 09:18, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Opencooper: It looks like someone isn't following directions. The template doesn't require English, but it requires the field be there, even if it's empty. In the two that I've looked at, whoever used the template left out the first field (see Template:Nihongo#Error messaging for details). Technically, a bot could probably be configured to go through each instance and fix them by checking to make sure there are three parameter fields, even if they are empty. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:34, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all,

Don't know where to put this. Based on my understanding of the show (and the lead-in text), the plot for Manpuku seems incomplete. Would appreciate it if someone could take a look at it.

Thanks, Hwdirre (talk) 04:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hwdirre: It seems reasonably complete to me. You're welcome to revise it if you wish, since you seem to know more about it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:48, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since Japan has reverted to surname then personal name order, how should this impact articles here? Do pre-Meiji articles have East Asian or Western-style order? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-Meiji articles have always basically had East Asian order. A decree by the Japanese government should not have any immediate impact on our conventions, since we don't rely on official names and many reliable publications don't either. I would tend to use surname–given name in other contexts, but on Wikipedia we should still respect the underlying directive to follow common usage in English. Dekimasuよ! 12:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Dekimasu. While The Economist seems to be switching, I would wait until many, many, many publications switch before considering doing so for Shinzo Abe et al WhisperToMe (talk) 17:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'm the writer for the Signpost Wikiproject Report, and was wondering if 4-5 of you would be willing to answer a couple questions for a future article. If so, you can respond here, and we can get connected. Thanks! Puddleglum ^2.0 18:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Puddleglum2.0: I could likely answer some questions. I'm sure there are others, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nihonjoe: OK, cool, I will give the link to the questions on your talk page later today (UTC today) Thanks! Puddleglum ^2.0 05:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Longing a couple of three more active participants because i have a writing deadline: @Yunshui: @WhisperToMe: @MChew: would any of you be willing to participate in the interview? If so, the link is here. Also pinging @Nihonjoe: to see the link. Thanks! Puddleglum ^2.0 15:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Puddleglum2.0: I'm happy to answer questions! On which page should I write on? WhisperToMe (talk) 17:54, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe: Thank you! You can write not he page that the link above (in my previous message) will take you, I've added yours and Nihonjoe's name below the questions, it's pretty intuitive now. Please answer the questions at your leisure, but keep in mind I will need to submit it by Jan. 24. :) thanks again! Puddleglum ^2.0 19:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Puddleglum2.0: Although I keep a casual eye on it, I haven't really done anything related to this Wikiproject for a while (I think my last relevant activity was probably creating a stub on Nagata Tokuhon back in October) so I'm not sure my opinions are necessarily going to be super-useful to you. Plus I'm going to be going offline for the weekend in a short while... If you want the opinions of an only-very-occasionally-active member who won't be able to respond until Monday morning, then by all means add me to the list, but if you need something by the end of the weekend, not so much - plus, having taken a look at the questions, I think you're after folk who are slightly more active participants in the project. Yunshui ^雲_水 22:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: OK, that's totally fine! Pinging Nihonjoe to ask: Do you know of any other active members that might be willing to do this? I'm not super familiar with the Project. Thanks for all of your help, Puddleglum ^2.0 23:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Puddleglum2.0: A few you might consider: @Dekimasu, Hoary, Lullabying, and Knowledgekid87:. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:06, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: to any and all of you, feel free to head here and answer the questions! Puddleglum ^2.0 00:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Puddleglum2.0 and Nihonjoe. I don't think I've ever been particularly active. (Now I probably seem to have pretty much retired, though actually I am working on a draft, on my computer.) Anyway, I've responded to some of the questions. If you'd prefer to use answers from a small number of people who either have answered energetically or have shown themselves to be energetic, I'd quite understand: please don't hesitate to delete/ignore my responses. -- Hoary (talk) 02:06, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hoary: Thanks much, I totally understand! Puddleglum ^2.0 04:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone. I am the new coordinator for WikiProject History. we need people there!! right now the project seems to be semi-inactive. I am going to various WikiProjects whose topics overlap with ours, to request volunteers.

• If you have any experience at all with standard WikiProject processes such as quality assessment, article help, asking questions, feel free to come by and get involved.

• and if you have NO Experience, but just want to come by and get involved, feel free to do so!!!

• For anyone who wants to get involved, please come by and add your name at our talk page, at our talk page section: WikiProject History needs you!!!!

• Alternately, if you have any interest at all, feel free to reply right here, on this talk page. please ping me when you do so, by typing {{ping|sm8900}} in your reply.

we welcome your input. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Riko Muranaka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

According to English sources, she wrote a book called "A Hundred Thousand Wombs", currently listed under "Works". I cannot read or speak Japanese and could not find its actual title (i.e. the English title should probably be |trans-title= with |title= the Japanese name). The article is also up for general review (it was listed at WP:FTN recently because the English was suboptimal, it has hopefully improved since). Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 13:43, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does anybody know, whether the Database of Cultural Properties (国指定文化財 データベース) which used to be here, is going to be online again? Or has it been moved somewhere?

I am updating the lists of cultural properties (except for Important Cultural Properties), whenever there is a new announcement on the bunka website. For instance today, this appeared which has 2 new Important Tangible Folk Cultural Properties and 6 new Important Intangible Folk Cultural Properties. The news articles are quite comprehensive, however they lack one important detail: the (sub)-category of the desginated property, for instance should サンヤレ踊り go into the "Dengaku" category or somewhere else? The old database had all this information. I am not asking specifically about this one, but generally, where can I find the information that existed in the old database? bamse (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the top page has a new name: here. I was redirected to the new page automatically, but that might not work for you if the security settings on your browser don't allow it. – Margin1522 (talk) 08:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. Strange that it did not give any security setting warning, but just told me that the page is not available anymore. bamse (talk) 21:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An RM discussion has been started regarding the possible renaming of the article South Pacific Mandate to Japanese Pacific Mandate. Any opinions would be welcome at Talk:South Pacific Mandate#Requested move 21 January 2020 - Polly Tunnel (talk) 09:46, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, WikiProject Japan! Following a recent trip to Tokyo and Kyoto, I created some new stubs for subjects I noticed had Japanese Wikipedia entries but not English Wikipedia equivalents. I do not speak Japanese. Might any project members be willing to expand any of these articles, either using English-language sourcing or by translating the Japanese Wikipedia articles?

Some other new stubs, not necessarily with Japanese Wikipedia counterparts, include:

Any help is appreciated, and of course benefits Wikipedia. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have above-average interest in architecture. Maybe I might have expanded on the myth that Yoshitsune encountered Benkei at Gojō.

It probably should be added that Gojō-dōri (五条通, "Gojō Avenue") did not the present-day street in Yoshitsune's time (a bit like Madison Square Garden that's not even on Madison Square anymore).

I'm not entirely convinced a daughter article WP:SPLIT for Statue of Hachikō was warranted if you're only churning out a stub.

Likewise, I'm not sure Gojo Bridge a separate article is needed now as separate from Gojō-dōri (五条通, "Gojō Avenue") and my opinion is they should be merged.--Kiyoweap (talk) 15:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kiyoweap, Thanks for your feedback. I'll work to expand the statue of Hachikō‎ article a bit more. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:52, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone interested in helping me expand this draft from the jawiki article? ミラP 01:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ミラ: I see that Sonoi (ja:園井恵子) is a Takarazienne with film roles to her credit, who died of exposure from the Atomic bombing of Hiroshima.

But my advice is: don't use every meticulous detail only cited to shiryōshū (1991).^[1]

This is a governmental publication from her hometown,[1] not a biography/non-fiction book from a major press or book publisher.--Kiyoweap (talk) 13:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a crack at translating into the working version in WP:Draft space. cheers, --Kiyoweap (talk) 16:22, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article Zenigata Heiji claims that the character was created by his author in a novel in 1937, but it also claims that he appeared in a film as early as 1931. Does anyone know which is correct?★Trekker (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@*Treker: The latter is correct. Zenigata appeared in April 1931 for the first time, in a monthly magazine Ōru Yomimono, Bungei Shunjū, in a short piece titled Golden Maiden (金色の處女). Zenigata series got popular immediately, and the second episode Furisode Genta (振袖源太) was filmized in the same year. (Source 1, 2) SEKI Misao (関操), who played Zenigata in the 1931 film, was an actor who started his carrier in USA. --ねをなふみそね (talk) 04:23, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ねをなふみそね: Thank you!★Trekker (talk) 13:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]