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16 February 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

HetmanWL (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) ( Clerk note: original case name)

FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Malecide (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Galehautt (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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In Poland, an afterwards-sock-blocked user User:HetmanWL edit-warred to change the country infobox to include period "Duchy of Poland" c. 960 before Baptism of Poland in 966: [1]. User:FeldmarschallGneisenau restored this change in [2].

On Talk:Poland, FeldmarschallGneisenau proposed to change the lede to a "good proposition deleted without thorough discussion" [3], which is identical to the lede present at the last version authored by HetmanWL [4], which was undone afterwards by Merangs [5].

On plwiki, FeldmarschallGneisenau has only two non-userspace edits, one of which is a continuation of a short thread started by HetmanWL, arguing towards using a photo of Donald Tusk that was improved by HetmanWL [6].

Account was created around a month after HetmanWL was banned, which would make sense for a sockpuppet.

It should be noted that though User:HetmanWL was sock-blocked as linked to User:Urabura, he was probably also a sockpuppet of User:Malecide, as HetmanWL's user page was initially identical to Malecide's (not only on enwiki [7] [8], but on plwiki too [9] [10]). Malecide in turn was banned as a sockpuppet of User:Galehautt. There may be more sockpuppets. Might be helpful to join all this together. NicolausPrime (talk) 04:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging User:E-960, User:Merangs, User:Piotrus to weigh in as y'all interacted with HetmanWL earlier on Poland and Talk:Poland. NicolausPrime (talk) 04:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely a strong similarity between the actions and contributions of HetmanWL and FeldmarschallGneisenau when it comes to the lead section in Poland article. Also, a very peculiar but correlated choice of usernames; I would like to point out that all three names - HetmanWL, FeldmarschallGneisenau and Galehautt - reference some kind of military formation, rank or status. Merangs (talk) 01:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My nickname doesn't refer to "military formation, rank or status." It refers to August Neidhardt von Gneisenau, a great man, but also to German battleship Gneisenau, a great battleship. Happy to help :) FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I simply checked the "last 50" on Poland and found that it was in a much better state before. Unlike the banned User, I wrote in Talk first, and only then... simply copied and pasted that edit. To get the disc. in Talk going. WP:BRR. EDIT: Now I checked and no one focused on the Talk, only on doing attacking..I don't even know why FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 04:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

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Hello. I can only say that I was born in Germany to a German Father and a Polish Mother. I don't live in Poland, I live in Germany and do consider Myself German only, thoug I'm visiting my Mother currently. So this does eliminate the Accusation completely because I can't be a Person of a different Nationality. I can post my Passport. I've been looking across several German/Polish Pages lately and made Corrections where I did see Content that was lacking. I'm eager to edit. I'm new to editing .For Donald Tusk, I did check his Page in German, in Polish in English and in French and the one in Polish does have the worst Image Resolution. Donald Tusk has been covered a lot of times in our German Media over the past few Months. As for the Lead Edit, I did start a Discussion on the Talk Page prior to making that Edit. Perhaps it would explain that I also have the Superpower that is being on the Spectrum. I do check thoroughly each Page I feel lacking that I want to edit (whenever I'm on Wikipedia, which isn't all the time). I do think you should ponder the Quality of the Changes instead of attacking for no Reason FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 03:45, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum. Perhaps you could consider the likelihood of multiple people in the German-Polish space being interested in their shared History, Present, Military matters. It is over 80 million People on the German side and nearly 40 million People on the Polish side. 120 million in total. Consider the odds. FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 04:23, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Clerk assistance requested: - Please move to Urabura. Bbb23 (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 10:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On behavioral evidence, the two accounts look very different. Aside from having some similar opinions, I don't see anything that would indicate sockpuppetry. Closing without action The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 00:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]