Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kven/Workshop

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Suggestion for Remedies

The arbcom is suggested

• to formally confirm the de-facto exercised ban on using multiple accounts by this user.
• to forbid any revert warring regardless 3RR by this user.
• to request the "kven user" to supply his contributions with detailed statement-by-statement references, since clearly his theories are not mainstream and require either cross-verification or reformulation as an opinion of some researches rather than a "solid" fact.

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I propose the above remedies that are copied from the Statement by User:Mikkalai. Labongo 15:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Neutral point of view

1) Wikipedia:Neutral point of view contemplates fair representation of all significant points of view regarding a subject.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 18:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Appropriate weight for speculative theories

2) It is said in Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight that "...the article on the Earth only very briefly refers to the Flat Earth theory...". Indeed, when consulted, it did contain the following language:

In the past there were varying levels of belief in a flat Earth, but ancient Greek philosophers and, in the Middle Ages, thinkers such as Thomas Aquinas believed that it was spherical. A 19th-century organization called the Flat Earth Society advocated the even-then discredited idea that the Earth was actually disc-shaped, with the North Pole at its center and a 150 foot (50 m) high wall of ice at the outer edge. It and similar organizations continued to promote this idea, based on religious beliefs and conspiracy theories, through the 1970s. Today, the subject is more frequently treated tongue-in-cheek or with mockery.

By linking to flat Earth, the possibility of extensive treatment of a generally discredited theory is contemplated,

None of this is to say that tiny-minority views cannot receive as much attention as we can give them on pages specifically devoted to them. Wikipedia is not paper. But even on such pages, though a view may be spelled out in great detail, it should not be represented as the truth.

The question of how to treat speculative linguistic or historical theories which have found some traction in popular imagination is not specifically addressed, but considering the purpose of NPOV to permit fair representation of all significant view points, and considering the flat earth example, it would seem that they should be briefly mentioned and put into perspective in articles which rely on mainstream scientific sources, and only fully explicated in separate articles which clearly identify them as speculative.

Please note that Wikipedia:Neutral point of view as written does not adequately address the question of how to treat instances where one point of view has overwhelming academic support while the other viewpoint is speculative, or held only in popular culture.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 18:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The theories pushed by the Kven User are described and discussed in detail in Kvens of the past and other articles. The Kven article also attempts to describe the ethnical controversies with regards to Kvens.Labongo 21:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, Wikipedia is overly confident in giving all viewpoints their weight, and continuously has problems with those users that advocate such minor viewpoints that in formulating it they are always bordering original research. / Fred-Chess 15:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a very useful placement of the "puzzle" on the table for us all to think about, in my opinion. --Rednblu 21:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive editing

3) Users who disrupt using aggressive biased editing may be banned from affected articles, in extreme cases from the site.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 14:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Agree. They tire the community by making Wikipedia article unverifiable and ridiculous the reputation of Wikipedia in the long term. / Fred-Chess 15:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Sockpuppets

4) Accounts and anonymous ips which mirror the behavior of another user may be treated as though they are that user.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 14:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Kven-User

1) Kven-User, who has edited as Art Dominique (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Steve Wondering (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and many other accounts and ips which focus on the Kven people, ethnic Finns who live in northern Norway. See http://www.ub.uit.no/arkiv/maanedens/1999/199906e.htm for an off-Wikipedia webpage regarding the Kven.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 16:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits by Kven-user

2) Kven-user's edits to Kven and related articles are characterized by aggressive biased editing, original research, and sustained conflict.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 16:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Continued editing

3) Most of the sockpuppets used by Kven-user are indefinitely blocked and he has not participated in this arbitration case. However he continues to edit making these edits on October 6, 2006 to Talk:Kven (edit | [[Talk:talk:Kven|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) [1] as 213.216.208.231 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and [2] as Allan A1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He had recently edited on October 3rd as Random visitor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). See also this edit of September 23.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 16:15, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Kven-user's controversial source

4) Keven-user's generally quoted source is Kyösti Julku of Oulu University. He is one of a small group which have advanced a speculative theory which has received some attention in the Finnish popular press, Uralic Linguistics Vs. Voodoo Science. His theories are mentioned briefly at Kvens_of_the_past#Different_interpretations.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 17:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kven users RfC

5) Many of the principals in this case participated in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kven users RfC.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 17:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

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Kven-user limited to one account

1) Kven-user shall select one account and use only that account. Any other account used may be indefinitely banned. The account selected may be communicated to the Arbitration Committee using the arbcom-l mailing list, Arbcom-l at Wikipedia.org. Pending selection of an account Kven-user may not edit Wikipedia.

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Proposed 14:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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Kven-user placed on probation

2) Kven-user is placed on probation. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts by aggressive biased editing. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Kven#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 14:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits prior to selection of a username

1) Should Kven-user edit under any username or ip prior to selecting a username any edit made may be removed on sight and the account indefinitely blocked.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 14:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Enforcement by block

2) Should Kven-user violate any ban, he may be briefly blocked, up to a month in the event of repeat offenses. All blocks to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Kven#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

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Proposed Fred Bauder 14:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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