Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 30
April 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 30, 2024.
Radio-Canada
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- Radio-Canada → Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Disambiguate. Radio-Canada can mean a few things, none of them being its English equivalent (though I guess it can be with enough of a stretch). LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Question for LilianaUwU: What other things could Radio-Canada mean? voorts (talk/contributions) 01:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ici Radio-Canada Télé, Ici Radio-Canada Première (those two being the main ones) and Radio Canada International, as well as their headquarters at Maison de Radio-Canada. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. From the history, I see that I created this redirect more than 20 years ago (!), and at the time Wikipedia was only a few years old and its content was less extensive than today. I think there weren't any articles about Radio-Canada at the time, so this was probably just a placeholder redirect which I forgot about long ago. Thanks for taking the initiative to fix this. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:PTOPIC - Radio-Canada is the well-known-in-English French name for the subject covered at Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (branded "CBC/Radio-Canada" per the first sentence). Hatnotes are provided to link to articles covering specific divisions of Radio-Canada. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Hitting the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation aka Société Radio-Canada aka CBC/Radio-Canada when searching Radio-Canada is unsurprising. Reiterating Ivanvector above: the hatnotes are good navigational aides and if those fail the same articles are linked in the lede. ― Synpath 23:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Radio-Canada is unambiguously a reference to the French version of the CBC. Ici Radio-Canada Première is like CBC Radio One. The existence of those does not invalidate the primary topics. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Panther Memorial Stadium, McBee
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 7#Panther Memorial Stadium, McBee
Paramount Television International Studios
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. There was no additional participation despite two relists. However, retargeting to Paramount International Networks#Production company as a suggested target. Jay 💬 07:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Paramount Television International Studios → TIS Productions (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per the outcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 3#Paramount Television International Studios, where incoming links were the hurdle straight after a page move, I've given it enough time for the actual targets and/or rdr targets to be sorted out. The reason or rationale is the same as its/the original listing. Intrisit (talk) 06:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Paramount International Networks#Production company where the relevant context/history of this company is detailed. It also points to TIS Productions at that target, though the two do not appear to be directly linked anymore and this company is not mentioned at the original target. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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Goulash (magazine)
- Goulash (magazine) → Harrow School (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a local(?) satirical(?) magazine published by a boarding school. Zero standalone notability, existed as two sentences that were BLAR'd immediately into the school it was published from. No mention of "goulash" anywhere at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No mention No redirect. To be honest, I doubt if this magazine is even real. Couldn't find anything in Jstor and Gscholar Ca talk to me! 15:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to The Harrovian and unlink there. Jay 💬 09:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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ELLIS, DICK
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- ELLIS, DICK → Dick Ellis (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No affinity for ALL CAPS. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. It's common for encyclopedias and other reference works to begin an entry with the title in all caps. This page on another wiki cites Ellis' article in the Dictionary of British Intelligence, and the article apparently uses ELLIS, DICK rather than Ellis, Dick or Dick Ellis. Maybe you'll try this version if you've not used Wikipedia much (or if it's been a while), or you may copy/paste it into Wikipedia from somewhere else that uses the all-caps. Nyttend (talk) 12:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I created this in response to this request: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive234#Redirect_request. I have no strong view re whether or not it should be kept. WaggersTALK 10:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep as WP:CHEAP and not sufficiently "weird" to qualify for WP:RCAPS in my opinion. Pinging User:Tom Pippens (who made the request linked above) as a courtesy, but they have not edited since 2012, so I doubt they care at this point. --NYKevin 22:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:RCAPS. While I can see Nyttend's argument that Ellis, Dick should redirect to Dick Ellis, I'd like to point out that this website's search functionality is CaSe InSeNsItIvE, save for when two titles are only different by capitalization (as per WP:DIFFCAPS). We don't need to keep allcaps redirects; if one feels that a "last name before first name" redirect would be helpful, it would be more helpful with some lowercase letters. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not everyone uses the search page to find articles. Plausible capitalisations are useful for other reasons (e.g. someone typing or copy/pasting text into the URL bar, like I do), so we have a category for them with tens of thousands of entries. Nyttend (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:CHEAP, as an {{avoided double redirect}} of (newly created) Ellis, Dick. Seems like a harmless {{R from alternative capitalization}} - not everyone uses the search bar; but even if everyone did, I'm not convinced that this redirect is problematic/would warrant deletion. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 19:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per RCAPS. Not convinced there is any affinity for having all caps more than any other name, which wouldn't have rcaps in the first place, DICK ELLIS doesn't and shouldn't exist, etc. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Pluri-
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Finite dimensional Hilbert spaces
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. No participation despite two relists. However, retargeting to Euclidean space#Technical definition as a suggested target. Jay 💬 08:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Finite dimensional Hilbert spaces → Category of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Finite dimensional hilbert spaces → Category of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The current target may be too technical for the search term. Alternatives could be Hilbert space or Euclidean space (or Euclidean space#Technical definition). Also note that the singular Finite dimensional Hilbert space, or the more correct hyphenations Finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces/Finite-dimensional Hilbert space do not currently exist. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Royal tart
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- Royal tart → Adventure Time season 2#ep35 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Should delete as to WP:FANCRUFT. BaduFerreira (talk) 17:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- As a redirect, this is valid. The concern of FANCRUFT may be taken up at the target article. Jay 💬 18:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete in favour of search results. While the target article does have a cited one-line mention of a Royal Tart Toter, redirecting to this section alone buries the other cited one-line mentions in Wikipeida. ― Synpath 23:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Pawanism
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Pinkblood
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Jackahuahua
- Jackahuahua → Jack Russell Terrier#Post-World War II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Dog breed redirected at a 2008 AfD, seemingly been unmentioned at the target for over a decade. It's misleading to maintain breed redirect for a dog type that holds zero information on Wikipedia. Utopes (talk / cont) 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Could go to list of dog crossbreeds but that page doesn't mention it; however, it's only had 3 views in the past 30 days which probably includes me looking at it. I don't think this designer dog breed has much notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Restore and merge to the list page per the AfD close of Daniel, who in 2008, anticipated that the contents could be merged to a list page. Jay 💬 09:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Easing function
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Easing function → Inbetweening#Digital animation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Without a mention of "easing", making this already not a great target, there's also no mention of a "function" at the target either. While the page admittedly talks about an "ease-in" and an "ease-out", this is not necessarily an "easing function" and several other topics deal with "easing" as well. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Easing function is a common term in computer graphics, see [1] [2]. Maybe there's a better redirect target, or a new article is warranted, but this was the best I could find. 11wx (talk) 01:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Lev Trotskij
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Lev Trotskij → Leon Trotsky (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete per WP:RFD#D8. This appears to be the spelling of Trotsky's name in various North Germanic languages and this spelling isn't used in the article. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - appears to be the spelling of his name in Danish and Norwegian, neither of which are particularly relevant. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Keep - the target does mention the transliteration in the Notes.There is also Leo Trotskij from 2005. Jay 💬 07:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC)- I hadn't noticed that before, but it appears to just be this uncited bit here: "also transliterated Lyev, Trotski, Trotskij, Trockij and Trotzky." I've seen no evidence that Trotskij is a valid English transliteration, rather than the transliteration into the languages that have been identified here. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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Bounding Into Comics
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- Bounding Into Comics → All3Media#Companies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The two seem unrelated. --62.166.252.25 (talk) 06:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)- Delete - Bounding Into Comics is owned by Aurora Media, which is owned by All3Media. That's the relation, however the redirect doesn't seem particularly helpful; there's nothing mentioned at the target page. Golem08 (talk) 21:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Bessel potential space
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Sobolev space#Bessel potential spaces. Jay 💬 09:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Bessel potential space → Bessel potential (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Sobolev space#Bessel potential spaces seems like a more precise target (though the articles should also ideally link to each other). 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Template:National football Cups (CAF region)
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- Template:National football Cups (CAF region) → Template:National football cups (CAF region) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete although helpful but implausible rdr title moved to the correct wording in it. Would be surprised if this is kept. Intrisit (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This is an {{R from move}} - from what I can see, the template was at this title from 2007 until recently. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 16:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep the page was at that title for more than a decade, and retaining the redirect is a harmless convenience for those who have been editing the area, while deletion brings no benefit. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 16:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The move occurred only nine days ago, and there are still dozens of transclusions. Best to let this one stay for a while, I think. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:R#K4, as a redirect from recent move. No harm in keeping this. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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A Platypus?
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- A Platypus? → Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz#Running gags (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, and rather obscure. Target will likely surprise a searcher even with the question mark at the end 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 15:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Way too vague, even though I definitely knew what it refers to, not everyone will. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 23:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Frances and Richard Lockridge
- Frances and Richard Lockridge → Richard Lockridge (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Frances Lockridge now has her own page separate from her husband Bookworm-ce (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and WP:XY. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not sure. On the one hand, WP:XY; however, on the other hand, Richard Lockridge#Personal and professional life indicates that this phrase was a by-line used by the couple for the Mr. and Mrs. North, meaning that this is a plausible search term - which is backed up by this redirect getting an average 28 views/month since its creation. Perhaps retarget to Mr. and Mrs. North? But I don’t know if that would be the most ideal thing either. Best, —a smart kitten[meow] 16:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete not clear that Mr. and Mrs. North is the primary target, not suitable for dabification, and of course WP:XY. We are probably best off just letting the search engine do its job. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 16:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per points raised by a smart kitten. The covers of Mr. and Mrs. North books do indeed depict the names of the authors as "Frances and Richard Lockridge", thus confirming the existence of a single pen name that encompasses the names of both collaborators and enabling the existence of at least a redirect (to Mr. and Mrs. North) or even a separate article which would focus on the details of the writing collaboration. Examples of other team-based articles can be found in Wikipedia entries for such collaborations as Rodgers and Hart, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Lerner and Loewe, Kander and Ebb, Comden and Green, Holland–Dozier–Holland, etc. Each of the collaborators — Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart, Oscar Hammerstein II, Alan Jay Lerner, Frederick Loewe, John Kander, Fred Ebb, Betty Comden, Adolph Green, Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier, Eddie Holland, etc. — also has a separate Wikipedia article that focuses on his or her entire life, not simply the collaboration. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Frances Lockridge and Richard Lockridge to a joint biography at this title. The articles are almost identical. The differences are biographical in nature and can be combined in a biography section with sub-sections dedicated to each person. -- Tavix (talk) 17:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Would alternatively support proposal by Tavix. Unlike, for example, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, who have extensive detail in their individual articles, independent of the Rodgers and Hammerstein collaboration, Frances Lockridge and Richard Lockridge are indeed proper candidates for a Frances and Richard Lockridge joint biography entry. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Having created the Frances Lockridge article, merging the pages seems like an OK alternative, although Richard's career continued for a decade or two after Frances' death. I just would prefer not to have a joint page directing to Richard specifically, or have only Richard have his own page but not give Frances her own, which would feel dismissive of Frances. —Bookworm-ce (talk) 13:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- As an alternative proposal, how about dabification? This probably isn't a standard outcome for WP:XY-type redirects; however, given that this is a valid search term (as opposed to a combination of 'X' and 'Y' that isn't used anywhere else), I'm leaning towards ignoring the rules to the extent necessary for this proposal. I'd be in favour of this outcome as opposed to merging, due to the fact that (in my opinion) RfD isn't the ideal forum for considering/discussing article mergers, and I'm not sure if it's strictly within its remit -- to be clear, a merger could still be discussed, but by a process such as WP:PAM rather than at RFD. I've started a draft disambiguation page below the current redirect. Pinging previous participants: @Bookworm-ce, Presidentman, Roman Spinner, and Tavix. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 15:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why we would need three pages where one is sufficient. -- Tavix (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- One may turn out to be sufficient, but I don't personally feel comfortable opining on that matter in this discussion; as (to me) it's more of an article content question than one regarding redirects, and due to the fact that the two pages in question aren't aware that a merger is being considered at this RfD. If the consensus at (e.g.) WP:PAM is to merge the articles, this proposed dab page would no longer exist - however, prior to such a merger (if one occurs), this disambiguation page would serve as a navigational aid. My view is therefore that RfD could dabify this redirect, but without prejudice to a merger discussion (which would, in my view, be better suited to make that determination). All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 15:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why we would need three pages where one is sufficient. -- Tavix (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Articleify into an article about their collaboration under a pen name. The articles with their individual biographies can be kept if they meet GNG outside of their collaboration, otherwise a full merge could work. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Template:R subtopic, Template:R subpage, Template:R plural
- Template:R subtopic → Template:R from subtopic (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:R subpage → Template:R from subpage (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:R plural → Template:R from plural (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These redirects are ambiguous between the R to
and the R from
versions of the rcat templates:
- {{R from subtopic}} & {{R to subtopic}}
- {{R from subpage}} & {{R to subpage}}
- {{R from plural}} & {{R to plural}}.
If consensus is to delete, I'm happy to do a JWB run to replace transclusions. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 12:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and disambiguate each with a hatnote in the {{Redirect category shell}}'s
|h=
parameter, such as|h=See also: {{R to subtopic}}|
, for example. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 12:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)- With respect, I don't see how this would solve the issue regarding ambiguity. When these rcat-redirects are used, they are used by typing the template code into a wikitext editor; and it seems unlikely that most editors using them will go to the redirect's own page (which, in addition to navigating to the redirect's title, generally requires clicking the
Redirected from [X]
link after arriving at the redirect's target).Keeping these redirects would also seem to be making a determination that the (de-facto) primary topic for an{{R foo}}
rcat-redirect is{{R from foo}}
, even where{{R to foo}}
also exists - to me, this just seems to be an WP:XY-type situation, where keeping these redirects could cause confusion. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 13:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- With respect, I don't see how this would solve the issue regarding ambiguity. When these rcat-redirects are used, they are used by typing the template code into a wikitext editor; and it seems unlikely that most editors using them will go to the redirect's own page (which, in addition to navigating to the redirect's title, generally requires clicking the
- Delete unless someone has a better technical solution to address potential misuse. The redirects don't seem useful enough to risk the ambiguity. Though to be honest, I'm not sure what {{R to subtopic}} is for – I understand the intent but I can't think of an example where it would be needed. (I originally created it as a redirect to {{R to related topic}}.) Looking at Category:Redirects to subtopics, it appears to be frequently being used incorrectly. If that template returned to being a redirect, I would support {{R subtopic}} remaining as a redirect to {{R from subtopic}} as I created it. MClay1 (talk) 14:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Empty and delete - an AWB (I don't know JWB but assume it's similar) run would not be appropriate, these will need to be manually reviewed to determine whether they are "R to x" or "R from x" redirects. But once that's done they should be deleted so that nobody adds more pages to them. Disambiguation doesn't solve the problem of the redirects being miscategorized - these are supposed to be part of a semi-automatic process. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Notified Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect of this discussion. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 19:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: These are ambiguous and could result in improper use. Disambiguation is not appropriate, as a smart kitten explained. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Paine Ellsworth JoshuaAuble (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. When we have to and from variations, one without the type just isn't helpful. If this passes, please list it at WP:TFD/H. Gonnym (talk) 17:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Enbian
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was retarget to LGBT slang#Terms related to transgender and non-binary people. Jay 💬 09:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Enbian → Non-binary gender (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to wikt:enbian, where it's defined. --MikutoH talk! 00:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to sapphism, where it is defined on Wikipedia rather than needing an XNR. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if targeting a redirect from a term for non-binary people to an article about an
umbrella term for any woman attracted to women or in relationship with another woman
is the best solution here. In addition,enbian
is only mentioned at that article once in passing, as an example of anequivalent term[] for [a] relationship[]...involving at least one non-binary person
. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)- At the moment, it's the only place where the term is used on Wikipedia. The better solution is probably to add a mention either at the current target or another article, as Ivanvector suggests below. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- True - I suppose I was more implying that my opinion is probably that, if no other mentions exist, it would be better for it to be deleted per WP:REDLINK than pointed at the mention in sapphism. Apologies if I could have worded my previous comment better. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- At the moment, it's the only place where the term is used on Wikipedia. The better solution is probably to add a mention either at the current target or another article, as Ivanvector suggests below. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if targeting a redirect from a term for non-binary people to an article about an
- Comment - it would be preferable to point this term at relevant encyclopedic content, but it's hard to pin down. Sexual identity has a list of identities but doesn't include one that quite fits this description. At Attraction to transgender people#Non-binary people there's a short blurb, and skoliosexual and ceterosexuality both target that section, but the links from there are either to Wiktionary or to other terms that kind of fit - they encompass this sexual identity but don't describe it specifically. We must be able to actually write something about this topic somewhere. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @A smart kitten, Ivanvector, and Presidentman: I mentioned it on LGBT slang § Terms related to transgender and non-binary people. Then I think it's the best target. But I wouldn't be opposed to Attraction to transgender people#Non-binary people, as suggested by Ivan, but only if it was mentioned there too. --MikutoH talk! 19:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me, I support that target. Probably also should be tagged {{R with possibilities}} along with skoliosexual and ceterosexuality. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I support retargeting there also. Thanks for adding it to that article, MikutoH :) —a smart kitten[meow] 22:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- @A smart kitten, Ivanvector, and Presidentman: I mentioned it on LGBT slang § Terms related to transgender and non-binary people. Then I think it's the best target. But I wouldn't be opposed to Attraction to transgender people#Non-binary people, as suggested by Ivan, but only if it was mentioned there too. --MikutoH talk! 19:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Wikipedia:Racism
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