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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Vivicam3915 → Vivitar#Current products  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This camera was never mentioned by name in the target article, even when the redirect was initially created. Unused otherwise. Streetlampguy301 (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is a real product, and two other models ar elisted on the target page (idk why those two and not this one) And one of them was linked as a WP:SELFRED (which I just removed.) I suggest either Add to list and keep or bundle other redirect and delete Happy Editing--IAmChaos 02:26, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep and tag as a {{R from file metadata link}}. It's used in exif data on Commons - see images in C:Category:Taken with Vivitar ViviCam 3915. - Eureka Lott 15:19, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Halo 3. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Usze 'Taham → List of Halo characters#Usze ‘Taham  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. Has two namedrops in Halo 3, but I'm unconvinced that there's enough content there to be worth redirecting to. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:18, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Halo 3. Note that the curved quote redirect Usze ‘Taham already redirects to Halo 3#Characters, a section that does not exist, and has to be corrected. Jay (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Halo 3. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• N'tho 'Sraom → List of Halo characters#N’tho ‘Sraom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. Has two namedrops in Halo 3, but I'm unconvinced that there's enough content there to be worth redirecting to. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Halo 3. Note that the curved quotes redirect N’tho ‘Sraom already redirects to Halo 3#Characters, a section that does not exist, and has to be corrected. Jay (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Bangladesh Liberation War#Background. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:03, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Autonomy for East Pakistan → History of East Pakistan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I saw no section at the target about autonomy. I am not sure what this redirect is refering to. What do you think should be done? Veverve (talk) 20:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Bangladesh Liberation War#Background This is the most comprehensive section I have found on Wikipedia about the aforementioned topic; however, if someone else finds something better I am open to a new target. TartarTorte 12:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Macedonian Catholic Eparchy of the Blessed Virgin Mary Assumed in Strumica-Skopje → Macedonian Catholic Eparchy of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Strumica-Skopje  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Very broken English translation of "Beata Maria Vergine Assunta in Strumica-Skopje" (source). It is very unlikely to help the reader. Therefore, it should be deleted. Veverve (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Potential close comment - This was the original title for 4 years and there are 14 incoming links, 3 of them are redirects themselves. I thought this was a quick delete, but it requires cleanup. Jay (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  @Jay: I cleaned the incoming links. Veverve (talk) 09:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  It was being piped from Eastern Catholic Churches which I have now fixed. Jay (talk) 09:43, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Corporal Perez → List of Halo characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. Has a name drop in the article of the actor that voiced the character. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. If the content at the current target that presumably justified a redirect was removed, this should probably be deleted; it doesn't make sense to redirect to the bare mention of the character at Tim Dadabo. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 04:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Sergeant Banks → List of Halo characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. We have 3 mentions of someone called "Sergeant Banks" that I can find - a mention in the article on the actor that voiced this character, a mention of someone who fought in the Irish civil war, and George L. Banks (soldier) 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate or delete. Disambiguate the three mentions on WP, but if the character is the only entity actually known by the term and barely has a mention, deletion to defer to search results seems appropriate as well. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:51, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete to enable uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Marvel Studios#Key people. With no prejudice against renomination if mention is removed at the new target, since it was added boldly only a week back. Jay (talk) 03:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Sarah Halley Finn → Marvel Cinematic Universe  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Sarah Finn → Marvel Cinematic Universe  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target. Is mentioned at Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., where her role as casting director for the MCU is noted, and even more briefly at a handful of other pages. My sense is that until substantial information is included at Marvel Cinematic Universe (and it may not be DUE to do so), deletion to allow for uninhibited search results seems most helpful to readers. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:35, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• I believe that, given the subject is mentioned at the AoS article for casting, that it should be redirected there, unless it is expanded at a more suitable article. I understand the rationale for deletion, but I think having the redirect is useful to navigate readers to a direct bit of information on the subject. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

— Note to closing admin: Trailblazer101 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:31, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep since the current target is the place where there is the most information about her, and the MCU page is the most intuitive place to link it to. NotReallySoroka (talk) 21:58, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by this since there is no information about her currently at Marvel Cinematic Universe? A7V2 (talk) 06:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom and per reason to delete number 10 (WP:RFD#D10). Not mentioned at current target, only mentioned in passing at Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Second preference redirect to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.#Casting where mentioned (in passing). A7V2 (talk) 05:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• I feel that if any information is going to be added about her, it should be at Marvel Studios, but there ain't any yet. She's involved throughout MCU films, not just Agents of Shield. Neocorelight (Talk) 06:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Marvel Studios#Key people and add info on Finn there since that would be most appropriate for the info on her. Would also support deleting the redirect per reason to delete number 10 (WP:RFD#D10). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Marvel Studios § Key people. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Marvel Studios#Key people. As the creator of the redirects, they were initially pointed to this target where I had added information, but it was removed previously under the rationale that Finn was not an employee of the company itself, but rather a frequent casting director. I believe the info can be added back and adjusted as such to address that concern. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:08, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay (talk) 14:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• New Jeans → Hybe Corporation#HYBE Labels  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, internet search results suggest that the formation of a Hybe girl group by this name is still just a rumor. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay (talk) 14:14, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Royal Antigua and Barbuda Coast Guard → Antigua and Barbuda Defence Force  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Entirely made-up term. Not used anywhere other than Wikipedia. Peter Ormond 💬 14:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 12:31, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Chongqingbei Railway Station Station → South Square of Chongqingbei Railway Station station  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The names of Chongqing North railway station, Chongqing North Station North Square station and South Square of Chongqingbei Railway Station station are confusing enough without retaining this redirect from a 2013 move Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: This is not a great redirect and I am unsure of its utility, but the "Station Station" part to me would imply it could only refer to South Square of Chongqingbei Railway Station station as that is the only station of the three that contains the string "Station station". TartarTorte 14:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Chongqing North Station North Square station is also a "station station"; that article could equally well be called North Square of Chongqing North Station station. (In Chinese the two metro stations have identical names except that one is "north" and the other is "south".) —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Ah well, in that case, this is a pretty ambiguous redirect and it should be deleted. TartarTorte 15:49, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as too ambiguous for a single target and too unlikely a search term for a disambiguation page. If it is not deleted, Chongqing North railway station (the main station in this mess) is probably the best target, and that article mentions the other two stations in the "Metro" section. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Jay (talk) 12:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Balochki language → Saraiki language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Balochki → Saraiki language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target, zero hits on Google Scholar, seems more likely to be a misspelling off Balochi language than anything else, but I may be missing something due to lack of familiarity with the topic. First choice is retarget to Balochi language, pending other arguments. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:19, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Balochi language per nom. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 18:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• It can be seen from Google Books results that this is an obscure and obsolete term has been used for both Saraiki and Balochi. This means that the options for us to choose from are deletion and disambiguation. (I'm adding the related Balochki to the nomination). – Uanfala (talk) 19:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I've drafted a dab at Balochki. Any thoughts, Rosguill? – Uanfala (talk) 15:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  That seems reasonable to me. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 15:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget to Balochi language per nom. NotReallySoroka (talk) 19:12, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to the newly created DAB at Balochki, which provides a better explanation of this obscure term in detail. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 04:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• CCCCCCCC → Octane  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• CCCCCCC → Heptane  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• CCCCCC → Hexane  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete as an implausible redirect that is humorous but not useful to people who know chemistry and bewildering to everyone else TartarTorte 01:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. CCCCC do not exist, but CCCC does as a disambiguation page. 2405:9800:BA20:AB7A:4D0A:8D01:E8B2:16A9 (talk) 05:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to List of compounds with carbon number 8, List of compounds with carbon number 7, List of compounds with carbon number 6, respectively. I agree with the nom that these likely have limited usefulness and Deletion would be appropriate in my opinion as well. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:49, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nomination. Unlikely to be useful. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not mention and potentially confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Retarget the first two, and keep the third.

• Retarget Libyan Government to Politics of Libya
• Retarget Libyan government to Politics of Libya
• Keep Government of Libya (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Libyan Government → Government of National Unity (Libya)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Libyan government → Government of National Accord  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Government of Libya → Politics of Libya  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not sure if either target is appropriate. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 07:18, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Politics of Libya, as it is the norm, and for the sake of consistency. MarioJump83 (talk) 07:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Politics of Libya, both the GNA and GNU are ephemeral, provisional governments which are planned to dissolve when the country adopts a constitution and holds a general election. Further the GNA no longer exists, having merged with the Tobruk government to form the GNU. Both governments have struggled to establish their legitimacy over parts of the country. I think the politics of Libya article better covers this complicated situation than the articles on the provisional governments and is less likely to need retargeting if a general election occurs or if the unity government breaks up.--Cincotta1 (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• AN/PVS-8 → AN/PVS-4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• AN/PVS-20 → AN/PVS-4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Deletion of this redirect (PVS-8 to PVS-4) as well as the PVS-20 to PVS-4 redirect. The redirects were made 10 years ago and the AN/PVS-4 page mentioned that the PVS-8 is "a large-objective-lens version of the PVS-4", mainly because they use the same image intensifier tube. Which is kinda like saying two computers are related because they have the same CPU. I already removed those claims from the PVS-4's page since they just don't make any sense. Overall, the redirect is just wrong and misinforms the reader. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 23:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• The PVS-20 page had been tagged, but not included here. Done now. Also the RfD notice meant for the talk page was inadvertently added to the redirect page. Moved it. Jay (talk) 07:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Jay: Sorry, did not see this till now. I think the AN/TVS-5 redirect to AN/PVS-4 is ok. I don't know enough about those earlier models but the TVS-5 does seem to actually be a modified version of the PVS-4. Thanks! Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 17:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:April Fools. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:23, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:AFDAY → Wikipedia:Rules for Fools  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Wikipedia:April Fools. "AFDAY" explicitly identifies April Fools' Day so no point in having it target a page whose purpose is to outline the Day's rules. Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) 06:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per nomHappy Editing--IAmChaos 02:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Dumbledore's Army#Members. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Micheal Corner → Dumbledore's Army#Michael_Corner  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. No search results on en wiki. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Dumbledore's Army#Members where Michael Corner redirects, and tag as {{R from misspelling}}? Jay (talk) 19:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget to Dumbledore's Army#Members as a {{R from misspelling}} and {{R from avoided double redirect}} of Michael Corner per Jay. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 12:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Thomas Fleetwood (1661–1717)) → Thomas Fleetwood (1661–1717)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)) → Thomas Fleetwood (1661–1717)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

After the hyphen variant was deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 7 § Dave Cummings ((pornographic actor)), AnomieBOT recreated it as a variant of the en-dash title. I was going to just delete the en-dash one in the spirit of the previous RfD, but then I noticed that it's an {{r from move}}, so I guess this should have a second RfD. Pageviews on the en-dash one were weirdly high for a while, but have dropped off since 2019; on the hyphen one, they've been consistently high, but I assume that's due to the link at Martin Mere, which I've just removed. So I think both are safe to delete. Also we should block AnomieBOT for edit-warring.^[Joke] -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 02:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both - These both appear improper. I concur. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:03, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both. NotReallySoroka (talk) 21:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as unhelpful misbracketed redirect. The hyphen redirect has been G4'd and salted. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 14:58, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 04:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Home Along Da Riles guest stars → Home Along Da Riles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

AfD closed as delete, now only exists as a WP:SELFRED Happy Editing--IAmChaos 02:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. @SBKSPP: Why did you create this redirect when no one else at the AfD supported that, it was closed as delete, and there was no relevant content at the target article? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 02:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Because it's an ATD. There's nothing wrong with making it a redirect. Besides, a redirect won't hurt at all. SBKSPP (talk) 08:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per the AfD discussion. It already ruled as delete by RL0919 resulted for the reason "moved from draftspace" by the original page creator twice, however despite the three Delete votes and the only Redirect voting on its discussion, the author instead recreate it by simply turned into a redirect for Home Along Da Riles just six hours after its article deletion. When the majority has spoken, just hereby accept the results. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 12:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Even aside from the recent AfD result, there is nothing resembling this list in the target. A7V2 (talk) 06:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It's a potential search term. SBKSPP (talk) 08:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as not helpful and potentially confusing. The reader is not going to find a list of guest stars at the target. The supporting cast are not guest stars. Jay (talk) 12:11, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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