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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Lolotte → Glossary of climbing terms#lolotte  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target. Pichpich (talk) 23:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: only because I edited to add mention in the target. It's a french climbing term (fr:Mouvements d'escalade). I did my best to add the definition to the French term with interwiki links. I might have gotten it wrong, so please update/edit/fix. sbb (talk) 00:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment should a non-English term appear in an English language glossary? Shouldn't it be on Wiktionary instead? -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Interesting question. I know a only a tiny bit about climbing terms, but from what I do know, many of them are French or come from French. I'm not sure how much lolotte is universal, or just French. From the other definitions, it does seem similar to 'dropknee'/'Egyptian'. But I'm not knowledgeable enough to say if they're related or synonyms. sbb (talk) 23:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Followup: Wikipedia is not Wiktionary, but a brief definition/statement of a term is absolutely acceptable in a Glossary / 'List of terms' article. It should definitely be in Wiktionary as well. sbb (talk) 20:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: an English language google search suggests its in at least occasional use by English-speaking climbers as a technical climbing term. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 20:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted. (non-admin closure) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• 2017–18 Coupe de France Preliminary Round, Centre-Val de Loire → 2017–18 Coupe de France Preliminary Rounds, Centre-Val de Loire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This page with this title was created by mistake due to incorrect spelling. There is no need to create the redirect Dr Salvus 21:51, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Family Guy (season seven) → Family Guy (season 7)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Should be deleted. Nothing links to it, and seems to be the only Family Guy season number that is spelled out. sbb (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 22#Harry Potter: Book Six. It's unambiguous as to which season it's meant to refer to, and isn't hurting anything. Some people might even search it with the full word. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 21:20, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Okay, but FG seasons 1–6, 8–19 don't exist as spelled-out redirects. Only season 7/seven. Should we create the other 18 spelled-out pages? Seems kinda weird and pointless, when search engines are relatively smart enough to complete the "sixteen -> 16", etc., translations. Why is "seven" special? sbb (talk) 22:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not necessarily saying that "seven" is special or that we should create the other pages, I'm just saying that this redirect isn't really in the way of anything, like with a lot of other such "(season [spelled-out number]) redirects. About such search engines (e.g., Google), Wikipedia's search engine doesn't seem to have the same capabilities, but again, I'm not really arguing that we should create the other eighteen spelled-out Family Guy season redirects (or that "seven" is special). Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 04:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep b/c redirects are cheap and this one was viewed 7 times in the year before this discussion. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 02:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above, helpful and harmless. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete per G7. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Next Untied Kingdom general election → 2019 United Kingdom general election  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't know how plausible this redirect is, since Untied Kingdom general election doesn't exist. The redirect page only has 147 pageviews for 5 years, while "Next United Kingdom general election" has over 4 million pageviews. Also, I don't know if we should retarget to the correct target because it's not enough to justify the redirect. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 16:25, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete as creator. I agree, it's of dubious utility and is costly to maintain. feminist (talk) 10:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Combichrist - Heat EP: All Pain Is Beat → Heat EP: All Pain Is Beat  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not sure if this redirect was ever useful, but certainly not anymore now that the target is itself a redirect (due to lack of notability). Lennart97 (talk) 13:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete useless as a redirect since no-one is ever going to be searching for this album in the Wikipedia talk namespace. This could probably be G8'd as a talk page with no existing subject page. There is a misplaced draft in the page history, but since it was last edited in 2009 it would qualify for G13 deletion if moved into the draft namespace. The draft is entirely unsourced (and the article this used to target was sourced only to discogs) so if restored and moved to article space this version of the article may qualify for A9 deletion as well. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Useless redirect. Mukt (talk) 15:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Douglas Robinson (athlete) → Douglas Robinson  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A redirect to a DAB page with no relevant entry. He is linked in Allen Sangree. Delete to encourage article creation if justified. Narky Blert (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as R from incomplete disambiguation. I thinks it's reasonable to describe 2x cricketers and an ice hockey player as "athletes". Note that the French cricketer was at this title. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Shhhnotsoloud. Regarding Allen Sangree, it's hard to tell which Douglas Robinson is being referred to there. If it's not one of the people who already have an article, then you have the option of replacing it with a red link with a more precise disambiguator than "athlete". Adumbrativus (talk) 03:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Three athletes are listed on the disambiguation page. A7V2 (talk) 04:38, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The link was a mistake[1]; Douglas Robinson Jr. was a businessman. Peter James (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware and add a hatnote to the section. ✗plicit 06:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Cake tin → Wellington Regional Stadium  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Cake Tin → Wellington Regional Stadium  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Cake-Tin → Wellington Regional Stadium  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Caketin → Wellington Regional Stadium  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I think people searching for these are more likley to be looking for an article on cake tins than an article on a stadium that was nicknamed "The Cake Tin" due to it's resemblance to one. Any search I do indicates that the cookware is the primary meaning of this phrase, but I'm unsure where to target these. Cookware and bakeware gives a general overview of the topic, especially in the Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware section, but there's also the spun out Mold (cooking implement) article, which could be a reasonable target 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support retargeting: there's no way a medium-sized regional stadium is going to be the primary target for such a common piece of kitchenware. ——Serial 13:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget all per nom to Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware, where there's a brief description. Narky Blert (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget at least the lower-case cake tin and caketin. Heh. I created Cake Tin in response to this May 2014 edit by the two-edit IP 49.181.184.62. Their other edit was at Talk:Wellington Regional Stadium#Cake tin. I restored the hatnote which had been removed in November 2015 by another IP, so be sure to remove that again if the proper name redirects are retargeted as well. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget Cake tin to Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware. Delete Caketin and Cake-Tin as nonsense/unlikely search terms. Keep Cake Tin as a legitimate use at that capitalisation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget, but leave a hat-note at Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware - the stadium is known both nationally and internationally as "The Cake Tin". Alternatively, turn the page Cake Tin into a disambiguation page and repoint the redirects there. Grutness...wha? 00:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget all to Cookware and bakeware#Bakeware (with hatnote there for the stadium nickname). No good reason to delete any or target Cake Tin differently. MB 23:04, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget all to the Bakeware section and create a hatnote there. Schwede66 18:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Portable farm → Shipping container  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I can't figure out the connection between this redirect and it's target, I assume someone built a farm in a shipping container at some point? The only mention of farming in the target is a sentence saying shipping containers are used for transporting farm produce 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I can't either. Enwiki has nothing on "portable farm". I fixed the 2x incoming links. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete After searching I think the connection is that the company Freight Farms decided to use to use shipping containers for year long farming and I managed to find one article that referred to them by the term portable farm [[2]]. However, I haven’t found any other articles referring to these containers by this name nor does the Freight Farms article use that term either. In fact, I found more links for a VR farming simulator on Steam.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Volkswagen Volkswagen e-up! → Volkswagen Up#e-up!  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible typo, I can't find any evidence that the spelling with double volkswagen is in common use 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Marine energy. ✗plicit 03:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wave and tidal power → Wave power  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:XY. Readers searching for this could be looking for Wave power or Tidal power, which are two different technologies. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Renewable energy. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:59, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Marine energy as a bit more specific than Renewable energy, and potentially this is quite a plausible search term since someone may be looking for something more general than just wave or tidal power on their own. A7V2 (talk) 02:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:XY. Two different things. Narky Blert (talk) 21:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Marine energy per A7V2. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 00:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Marine energy which fits this description quite well and seems more like a good example than a bad example of WP:XY to me. Adumbrativus (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm _Talk 01:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Modern Painter → List of modern artists  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Modern Artists → List of modern artists  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. Uncapitalised versions Modern painters, Modern painter, Modern artist, Modern artists do not exist. Modern Artist does not exist, and Modern Painter is possibly ambiguous with the article Modern Painters. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (organizations) → User:CorporateM/Advice for editing articles on organizations  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete as it should be a red link so people don’t think it’s a current policy at the places it’s currently linked from. See linked discussion: [3]. Sorry, tough editing. 50.201.195.170 (talk)

• Comment: Fixed malformed nomination that was added by 50.201.195.170. CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The redirect is misleading as this is not a part of the WP:What Wikipedia is not policy and is instead an essay. The page was blanked by it's creator on the 25th of Feb, so this is borderline WP:G8 as the content it points to no longer exists. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 18:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• 13256278887989457651018865901401704640 → AACS encryption key controversy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is the decimal representation of 09F9 et cetera. Anyone searching for the number would search for either its hexadecimal or binary form, not decimal. O.N.R. ^(talk) 10:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strange as it may be, the decimal redirection is as useful as its hexadecimal counterparts. See the Pageviews analysis for the redirection pages. – Fuzzy – 10:35, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Fuzzy, and because a few sources do seem to give the key in decimal (just copy it into your favorite search engine to see). Anyway, redirects are cheap. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: normally I hate this type of seemingly-ephemeral cruft, but if a search engine hits this number and redirects to a useful page about the information, that's definitely keep-worthy. sbb (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to Sample (statistics) and Sampling (statistics). _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Random sample → Sampling (statistics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Random samples → simple random sample  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Random sampling → simple random sample  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I think these two redirects should probably point to the same target, since one is just the plural of the other, but I'm unsure which target is better. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Set indexify with Simple random sample, Systematic random sample, Stratified random sample, Cluster random sample, and probably others. As a quicker solution, could instead target both to Sample (statistics) (yes, apparently that is a separate article from Sampling (statistics)), but I don't think that article really articulates the differences and searchers probably are seeking something more specific anyway. Unfortunately the relevant articles do not follow a consistent title format, with some including "sample" and others including "sampling" but that's an issue for requested moves. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I added Random sampling that should be treated similarly to the others. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:57, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Re/target all to Sampling (statistics) which is a generic article with several sections relating to different possibilities. A separate SIA is not required: in fact a third article to Sample (statistics) and Sampling (statistics) might just make the confusion worse. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Agree Re/target all to Sampling (statistics), which is the article that covers the concepts well. Newystats (talk) 10:29, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to match the suffixes: Random sample and Random samples to Sample (statistics) and Random sampling to Sampling (statistics). -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:12, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Dark Lakitu → Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a non-notable enemy who isn't mentioned at the target article. It was mentioned at Lakitu until July 2007, but hasn't been mentioned since that time, so I'm not sure about retargeting that redirect there. I'm leaning towards deletion unless a mention can be added somewhere. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 05:16, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete the fact that no one has no has brought up Dark Lakitu not being in the main Lakitu article for over a decade strongly indicates that no one is looking this up. The current target doesn’t work either since it’s a minor enemy not mentioned.--67.70.100.30 (talk) 05:21, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to Lakitu, where searchers will find some information related to the generic enemy. I wouldn't oppose outright deletion though. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think a retarget is necessary here. Taking a look at the Lakitu article this minor variant that only appeared in a bonus area in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (not mentioned there) hasn’t been mentioned in the article for years strongly indicating that problem aren’t searching for it.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 02:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm _Talk 16:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Rawk Hawk → Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Rawk Hawk may have been the previous champion of the Glitz Pit, and had an article about him for almost one-and-a-half years before ShakespeareFan00 redirected it to List of characters in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door in July 2006. But alas, that was turned into a redirect itself, so I don't know if we should keep this thing lying around. I suggest we delete it unless someone can provide a justification. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 02:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete while more relevant to the plot than the random enemies they have been nominated for deletion recently he is not mentioned in the target article.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 05:43, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm _Talk 16:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Elastomeri → Elastomer  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:FORRED. No connection between elastomers and the Italian language. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, or perhaps a misspelling of elastomeric. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm _Talk 16:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Histereza → Hysteresis  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is not a misspelling as the category tags suggest but is instead the Polish word for Hysteresis. Since there is no connection between Polish and Hysteresis I think this should be deleted, per WP:FORRED. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete It's ok to delete it. Dam222 🌋 (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RFFL. Narky Blert (talk) 21:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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