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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 14:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Yorubans → Yoruba people  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a hoax. There's nothing called "Yorubans". the denonym for Yoruba is "Yoruba". You can't find "Yoruban" anywhere as an alternative spelling for Yoruba. Jamie Tubers (talk) 20:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as an {{R from incorrect name}} per nom's reasoning. Steel1943 (talk) 20:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - I created this redirect as it's a misnomer I've heard people use. I think it's reasonable to assume that someone interested in Yoruba people might type in "Yorubans" when looking for that article. I did it specifically because many people do not know the correct nomenclature. Best, - CorbieV^☊☼ 21:01, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per Steel1943 and nom, I've been bold and added the {{Redr|from incorrect name}} template. Though since I haven't used this particular template before, I'd appreciate someone glancing to make sure I did so correctly. Thanks! - CorbieV^☊☼ 21:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep with the incorrect name template. Yoruban, the singular, has been here since 2005. The word, misconception that it is, nevertheless can be found all over and is a mistake we may as well anticipate. Compare Mayan, Mayans, as well as Mandinkan language. —Largo Plazo (talk) 01:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Steel -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above, but should it target the Yoruba dab page? Yoruban points there. I've boldly changed the redr template to the {{R from incorrect name}} template - CorbieVreccan did it right, but I think it's preferable to place the singular rcats when there is only one. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above points. --Rubbish computer 16:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:11, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• BeaconGate → Facebook  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete, WP:NEOLOGISM related to Facebook Beacon. This needs to be deleted per WP:LABEL, which says "-gate" should only be used in instances of a scandal that is used by multiple reliable sources, which we don't have here. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - wasn't this speedier before? -- Tawker (talk) 00:30, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --Rubbish computer 16:33, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:10, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Фейсбук → Facebook  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:11, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete An American invention that was originally in English, so has no strong affinity for any language except English -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:29, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. sst✈ 13:28, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:FORRED as a redirect from a language with no primary affinity with its target. --Rubbish computer 16:34, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:10, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Falfie → Selfie  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. Apparently, this is supposed to mean "family selfie", but it appears to be WP:MADEUP. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as an obscure synonym or Uber weak retarget to Falfield due to two misspellings--Lenticel ^(talk) 01:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above points. --Rubbish computer 16:34, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Селфи → Selfie  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary. General topic with no affinity for any particular language -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:30, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. sst✈ 13:31, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:FORRED as a redirect from a language with no primary affinity with its target. --Rubbish computer 16:35, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Twitterku → Twitter  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete as a WP:NEOLOGISM. It's a type of poem that takes advantage of Twitter's 140 character limit. However, I haven't found any notability to that, and there's no mention of it anywhere on Wikipedia. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Twitter#Format as a plausible search term. sst✈ 13:32, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as there appears to be no suitable target (not mentioned at Twitter#Format. --Rubbish computer 16:38, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Туиттер → Twitter  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Твиттер. → Twitter  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Твит → Twitter  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN, this is a common concept that doesn't have any certain affinity for any language except English. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:29, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete U.S. invention that was originally in English. No strong affinity for any language except English -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:FORRED as a redirect from a target with no primary affinity to its target. --Rubbish computer 16:38, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• А. Гранде → Ariana Grande  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Ариана Гранде → Ariana Grande  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:R#D8: Ariana Grande is American and has no connection to Cyrillic, making this an obscure redirect. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete no evidence of any affinity for Cyrillic for this singer -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:38, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Those are redirects from other language, but that language has no connection with the subject. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:FORRED. sst✈ 13:31, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above points. --Rubbish computer 16:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Miss Di Tano → Simon Taylor  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. This points to a disambiguation page and doesn't appear to be related to any of the entries there. Perhaps it was created as a joke about a specific person. Nick Number (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. The inactive creator seems to have been a constructive editor, so perhaps this has meaning, but doesn't seem to make any sense. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:47, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above points. --Rubbish computer 16:40, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 15:10, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• High risk trading → Piracy  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Is this a joke? Piracy could make certain trading "high risk", but this phrase seems like a very obscure synonym for piracy itself, if not altogether made up. "high risk trading" -wikipedia talks about stock markets and similar topics, as I would expect. BDD (talk) 15:28, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:XY. When I see this term, subjects related to the stock market or stock trading (a redirect to an article other than Stock market) come to mind. Best to just leave the search function of Wikipedia to help readers find what they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete probably a joke. On it's own, it's very vague in my opinion. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete piracy isn't the only form of trade the contains high risk -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. When someone else deletes my comments, ask them not me. Check history and have a second guess with the perversion of my ˘!vote. Si Trew (talk) 10:10, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• A Pure LIfe → Vera Farmiga  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• A Pure LIfe (film) → Vera Farmiga  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

As far as I can tell from the few sources found, this film was slated to start filming in early 2011 directed by one Van Fisher,[1] but either never started filming or wasn't finished.[2] I include in the discussion the redirect A Pure LIfe (film). -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:41, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both - nonexistent film, plus the "i" is incorrectly capitalized in both. Korny O'Near (talk) 13:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Note - I have tagged and added A Pure LIfe (film) to this nomination. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above, I have nothing further to add about this specific film. As a background though: Captain Assassin! created hundreds of WP:CRYSTAL film redirects in May-June 2013, usually redirecting to a director or actor "tied" to the film. The problem with this is that the rumor mill with films is huge, and just because a director signs on to a script, it doesn't mean that the film is going to be made (and if it does, it could be years or even decades later). These been appearing pretty frequently lately at RFD (I've nominated a bunch, Steel1943 among others have also nominated a few: you can see a bunch of examples at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 11). -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:54, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• WikiLeaks (Anonymous Operation Payback) → WikiLeaks  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RFD#D5, this is a nonsense disambiguator, that phrase doesn't even appear in the article. -- Tavix ^(talk) 05:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as confusing at best --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Qantas Holidays → Qantas  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is only one brief mention of this term in the infobox, so, its best to delete it until an article about it is created. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• When I created this redirect I thought it could be expanded into an article. I can't remember why I made it, perhaps it was because of a red link in Linda Britten. But it won't be much of a loss to delete it as there is on average less than one view per day. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:01, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Bashares.com → British Airways  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This website isn't mentioned at the target. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Continent#Subcontinents. --BDD (talk) 13:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Subcontinent → Indian subcontinent  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A subcontinent is just a term for a localized landmass in any continent. I don't understand why this redirect is pointing to a specific subcontinent in Asia; it's misleading. I understand that "Indian Subcontinent" is sometimes referred to as "The Subcontinent". However, The Subcontinent is already redirected to the article. Per WP:DIFFCAPS, "The Subcontinent" is not the same as "Subcontinent", with a very different and generalized meaning. Jamie Tubers (talk) 02:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong delete People searching for this term would already know what the Indian subcontinent is, but want to find info on a generic term. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents, where they can someone can "find info on a generic term." -- Tavix ^(talk) 03:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• COMMENT: This is a good option as well. I don't mind a retarget to this link.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 13:55, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Indian subcontinent. It is more widely used name for the Subcontinent. After all, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Continent#Subcontinents is not WP:RELIABLE - full of unsourced claims, primary research, and misinterpreted information. In the past the pushers of "there are so many subcontinents" theory tried to put all that information in the Subcontinent article, and all were found to be baseless. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:17, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: all of the links in the searchlink you provided explicitly stated "Indian Subcontinent", not "Subcontinent". And btw, what comes on in searches doesn't rule out what a primary topic is. A good example, is a search for Federal Capital Territory, which brings up only the Nigerian FCT (in exact words in fact), but it doesn't make Nigerian FCT the primary topic of the term, which can also be a generic term for many capital territories. see WP:NWFCTM.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 14:30, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Except that Nigeria's capital territory is the only modern day territory with the exact name. Which is why Nigeria's federal territory is bound to hog up Google search. Australia's federal territory's name was changed while Pakistan's was moved to Rawalpindi. Nonethelss it still is a general term, unlike "subcontinent". Filpro (talk) 01:18, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to the generic term at Continent#Subcontinents per Tavix. This looks like a general term to me, and a reader looking for what a subcontinent is will be disappointed with an article on the Indian one, or possibly misled into believing that it is the only one. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents seems best. Just Chilling (talk) 18:06, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Indian subcontinent. See Talk:Subcontinent. First the article was put listed for speedy deletion by you for hoax and now you think it's misleading? Keep it where it was. Subcontinent is not a generalised word and it is rarely used if it all. However when it is used, it almost always refers to the Indian subcontinent. Nearly all reputable dictionaries use the Indian subcontinent as the only example since it's the only place on Earth that completely fits the criteria for one and also the general definition for subcontinent itself is defined by the Indian subcontinent. (geographical boundaries such as the Himalayas and the Indian Ocean as well as being on a separate tectonic plate from Eurasia)

Regardless, the News, books, TV, and media in general all use subcontinent in context of the one the article is currently redirected to. Changing the name would be even more misleading. A general definition can be included at both the continent article and Indian subcontinent but that's about it. Filpro (talk) 01:17, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Continent which indicates subcontinents. Not all of use speak ye olde British English -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguation page? Another option would be to turn it into a disambiguation page as I think this (Draft:Subcontinent (set index)) AFC submission was trying to do. At it appears to be a fairly split opinion on what to redirect to Indian subcontinent, Continent#Subcontinents or Continent and no one so far wants to go back to it as its own article. A disambiguation page lets the reader choose what they were looking for. KylieTastic (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I would oppose a disambiguation page, as that's what Continent#Subcontinent does: it explains what a subcontinent is and lists the various entities that have been referred to as a "subcontinent" (including India). -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:19, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Indian subcontinent where I have just added an hatnote. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents (which has been currently deleted unfortunately, but this old text seems viable). I agree with the point that somebody that searches for "subcontinent" is most likely looking for an explanation of the general concept rather than the Indian subcontinent. - Kautilya3 (talk) 10:00, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Continent#Subcontinents is now cleaned up. So there are no problems with it being the target of the redirect. - Kautilya3 (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents, or convert to DAB page. Recreation of the original article might even be warranted if the current referencing and expansion of Continent#Subcontinents results in a very large section. - BilCat (talk) 13:33, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents. Better as there are more than one "subcontinents". Vsmith (talk) 14:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents. It is a generalized term, not specific to India, even if it's the most common example. oknazevad (talk) 14:22, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Winter is early. It seems to be quite the WP:SNOW here. Also the WP:HEY was high. changing my !vote for retarget to Continent#Subcontinents. BTW, someone will need to do something about Talk:Subcontinent. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added: {{Talk page of redirect}} could be a good solution. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 06:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• retarget to Continent#Subcontinents. I just hit this page looking for information on what other regions were considered subcontinents. I know The Subcontinent generally means India, but to me and fellow Brits "The Continent" means Europe and no-one would think that a sane redirect.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MrWeeble (talk • contribs)
• Retarget to Continent#Subcontinents with a hatnote pointing to Indian subcontinent --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm not sure if a hatnote is necessary, seeing that Indian subcontinent is described in the prose of the section. -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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