Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 December 3

The result of the debate was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 21:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense redirect Corvus cornix_talk 22:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Snowball per G1 and per nom per consensus refactored @ 05:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC). --Thinboy00 @142, i.e. 02:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete (no need to speedy it). This is a line from the book and film, but not one that is likely to actually be used for anything, because it's not especially identified with the target. — Gavia immer (talk) 16:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not every movie line is iconic; this isn't. Even if it were, there is much to be said for not making one-liners point to their sources because they are rarely used for actually searching something and we're not a lyrics, quotations, and movie dialog directory or service - plenty of those around. WP≠Bartlett's. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Carlos.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 03:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Gavia immer. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 19:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was No consensus. There is clearly disagreement over this issue. As misspellings for convenience & unlikely typos have always been a judgment call without community consensus on which is more important, there is not an overriding principle to apply. -- JLaTondre 21:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect includes a semicolon. Yancyfry 04:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Semi-colon and L are right next to each other on a standard keyboard. It seems a plausible typo to make. While I would never advocate creating these redirects preemptively, once they're created in good faith, it's not usually worth the effort to delete them. Keep unless there is evidence in the user's history that this was probably a bad-faith contribution. Rossami (talk) 05:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I was under the impression that good faith is not a reason for keeping... but then, I'm not very experienced in this, so I will defer to your wisdom. --Thinboy00 @143, i.e. 02:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Good faith is not an automatic reason for keeping but bad faith can be a sufficient reason to delete. This particular redirect doesn't appear to meet any of the "delete if" reasons above. Yet neither does it explicitly meet any of the "keep if" examples. In cases that are close to the line, I consider the good or bad faith of the author as a contributing factor to the discussion - hence the qualified opinion. Rossami (talk)
• I don't consider that a plausible typo; people don't add punctuation marks in the middle of words. Otherwise, there's also [[#; 8a {43a;37]], which is also a series of typoes of Elvis. Delete. >Radiant< 23:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Redirects for common typos that wouldn't necessarily be easily caught by the typer make sense, as something very minor might go unnoticed and leave the typer wondering what went wrong. Typos like this, on the other hand, ought to be noticed by the person who makes them. Redirects are helpful for ease of navigation, not replacements for common sense. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 00:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom, Radiant, Icarus. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Very strong keep I've actually used this redirect a number of times. Extremely plausible typo as the semi colon is right beside the L and it was probably originally created by someone who accidentally typed this. Plus, why bother deleting this when it's causing no harm, it's not even worth the effort--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 22:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - harmless redirect from a plausible typo. It may look odd, but I can see how someone could easily type 'Elvis Pres;ey' by mistake, and if they do it's obvious what article they're looking for. Terraxos (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a plausible typo. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was moved to WP:DRV. Nomination has been moved to deletion review. It should not be debated in two separate places. -- JLaTondre 03:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last AfD resulted in delete but strangely an admin thought a redirect was more apt. Redirect to stoner rock is wrong. Stoner rock is a well defined genre whereas stoner music is just a term (not a genre) for music (whatever genre e.g. reggae, hip hop) that is strongly associated with cannabis use. In other words, it's music to listen while getting high. See Rolling Stone articles [1] and [2]. The term is wildly used on the internet, mainly in forums and other non-notable media. Here are some examples of more reliable media that have used the term: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] and less notable but nevertheless sources [10], [11] . Some of them refer to stoner rock, most do not.

• Move to Deletion review and speedy keep for housekeeping. This is attempting to overturn a past deletion discussion, so it should go to deletion review, not RfD. --Thinboy00 @145, i.e. 02:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't exactly know the procedures so if I'm wrong on this, please forgive me: I don't want this article to overturn a past deletion, I only want the redirect to be removed. I don't care if the articles is deleted in the process, as long as the incorrect redirect is removed. Kameejl ^(Talk) 13:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand what you're saying, you are asking to overturn the previous AfD (since it was closed as a redirect instead of delete). An AfD is usually overturned at Deletion discussion, except for renominating a kept page after some time has passed. This page was not kept, and it sounds like the admin may have made a mistake. A deletion discussion is the norm for this situation. --Thinboy00 @281, i.e. 05:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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