Wikipedia:Requested moves

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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

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Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

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Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:

    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=reason for move}}

    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

  • Jitendra Singh (politician, born 1971) → Bhanwar Jitendra Singh (currently a redirect back to Jitendra Singh (politician, born 1971)) (move · discuss) – Commonly used full name, that will remove the need for the unnecessary excessive disambiguation present at the moment. MrMkG (talk) 00:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrMkG I don't know too much about how Indian names/titles work, but only one of the sources in the article uses Bhanwar Jitendra Singh, while most just Jitendra Singh or Shri Jitendra Singh seem more common. --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE    ) 14:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • World egg → Cosmic egg (currently a redirect back to World egg) (move · discuss) – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Pogenplain (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pogenplain - the filler text is still being used as a rationale here, what was the reason and or evidence for a title change? Also, there was an old, very brief merge discussion leading to the current title: Talk:Cosmic egg ASUKITE 18:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tanhuma → Midrash Tanhuma (currently a redirect back to Tanhuma) (move · discuss) – When 'Tanhuma' is put into a search, all non-Wiki results are titled either 'Midrash Tanhuma' or 'Tanhuma Yelammedenu'. For example https://www.sefaria.org/Midrash_Tanchuma and https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/midrash-tanhuma/, I rarely see just 'Tanhuma'. Tanhuma *is* the more common search, but that (1) is likely because it's simpler than searching the entire phrase (2) it is still an abbreviated form of Midrash Tanhuma. Pogenplain (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No. 321 (Dutch) Squadron RAF → No. 321 (Netherlands) Squadron RAF (currently a redirect back to No. 321 (Dutch) Squadron RAF) (move · discuss) – inline with No. 320 (Netherlands) Squadron RAF. Netherlands is the official name listed in RAF Squadrons. A comprehensive record of the movement and equipment of all RAF squadrons and their antecedents since 1912 (1988) by Jefford, C. G Gavbadger (talk) 17:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Contested technical requests

  • Machine Gun Kelly (musician) → mgk (currently a redirect back to Machine Gun Kelly (musician)) (move · discuss) – The musician recently changed his name on all streaming platforms and social media to "mgk". It has been suggested if not protested that the rapper change his as it promotes gun violence in some of his concerts. His recent song "Don't Let Me Go" was released under mgk, and since "mgk" already redirects to the current title, this shouldn't be much of a problem. dxneo (talk) 20:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dxneo: I'm contesting this request per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGES since still commonly used in articles (such as the ones you linked). Plus the lowercase initialism is a stylization that would likely be controversial in an RM. SilverLocust 💬 23:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is {{Lowercase title}} for a reason, if he was initially "mgk" would this stylization be a problem? He has been referred to as mgk countless times in older articles and now it's official. Obviously he will still be referred to as Machine Gun Kelly, and so will does the linked source 'cause they are announcing a name change. dxneo (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose per SilverLocust PersusjCP (talk) 01:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, and certainly not uncontroversial. MGK and mgk already redirect to Machine Gun Kelly (musician). 162 etc. (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. dxneo (talk) 15:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Akhil Reed Amar → Akhil Amar (currently a redirect back to Akhil Reed Amar) (move · discuss) – More concise title, and the subject is known more as simply "Akhil Amar" rather than by his full name. GuardianH (talk) 17:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GuardianH: As this was subject to a previous move discussion, as well as several moves, it is not eligible as a technical request. Station1 (talk) 18:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator needed

@BilledMammal I'm reading the RM as "Move to Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus. The only consensus for a move here is WP:NOYEAR." as Mike Selinker wrote in the close. I'm also seeing that the page title has never been at your proposed title. Forgive my confusion at this request, but my reading of the move logs is that it was at some form of "bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus" before the move warring started. (please do not ping on reply) Sennecaster (Chat) 18:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Protected because of move warring, admin needed anyways. Sennecaster (Chat) 18:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See this edit - before the disputed moves began it was at "2024 Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus". Per the consensus in the RM, the "2024" should be removed, and so the title the article should be at is "Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus". BilledMammal (talk) 18:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm tempted to make this move, as I think BM is correct about the order of events. The original move from 2024 Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus to 2024 Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus was indeed an undiscussed WP:RMUM. What should have happened is that the undiscussed move was simply reverted and then a fresh RM started from the original title. But that didn't happen. Nonetheless, if the close at the RM was indeed no consensus, then other than the decision to remove the year, reverting to the original title but minus the year seems like the correct outcome. So as a neutral admin with no particular opinion on this title, I will make this move unless there's a good reason not to, per established practice. But before I do so, courtesy pings to @El C: and @Mike Selinker: as the page protector and the RM closer, for opinions.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No objection from me, Amakuru, so feel free to do whatever. I just move-protected alongside creating the edit notice. But I saw that the latest move summary read:
08:27, 14 April 2024 Iskandar323 (talk contribs block) moved protection settings from Bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus to Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus (Bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus moved to Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus: Revert undiscussed move (WP:RMUM): – and also in direct violation of the recent consensus atRM)
That's why I took no additional action. But I admit to not have looked too deeply into it and sort of took the veracity of that move summary on faith. El_C 22:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sequence of events leading to that move and the revert involved one editor asking about changing the title, getting a response from a single IP, and then moving it themselves, which occurred after the RM was closed and the page was moved by Mike Selinker --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, since no objections raised from El C or Mike, this has been  Done. This is procedural given that the only consensus in the recent RM was for removing the year, thus the page has been moved back to its original title, but without the year. All future moves should go through an RM discussion.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, this has now been queried by Novem Linguae with a request to self-revert so I've done that. This has really become a hot mess, and we'll need the RM closer to come in and clarify for us.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Nothing personal, my concerns were procedural. I just didn't feel very comfortable having RM/TR set aside a bolded RM close on a sysop-protected page. I think BilledMammal should consider opening an RM for Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus as a logical next step. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Better to wait to see what the closer says first; let’s get the article at the actual status quo title before muddying the waters further. BilledMammal (talk) 11:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I mentioned on the talk page, when I closed this, there was no consensus to change the title from 2024 Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus to anything else. However, there was consensus on removing the year per WP:NOYEAR, so I did that. There certainly wasn't consensus to make it Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus. If folks want another move, they should make another RM rather than just move it. There's clearly considerable debate on what the title should be; there doesn't need to be debate on what I meant when I closed it.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on this reply, and their statement There was no consensus in the discussion for anything except WP:NOYEAR, I think we can revert to the title above now? BilledMammal (talk) 23:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I would suggest taking the discussion to the talk page for the article, since there is quite a lot of discussion there. It doesn't make sense to me to have one group discussing one outcome and another group discussing another. That's just my take, though.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Selinker: Per WP:NOCON, When article title discussions end without consensus, the applicable policy preserves the most recent stable title. If there is no prior stable title, then the default is the title used by the first major contributor after the article ceased to be a stub. There isn't a stable title that can be gleaned from the article's move history as the article is relatively brand new. Therefore it should be back to the title at which the article ceased to be a stub, which would have been 2024 Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus, as this was not only the original title, but as well as the title at which the article was rapidly developed from stub to an article. Curiously, you had moved the the article to this title before, Special:Permalink/1218658797, which would have made you an involved editor with respect to closing the discussion. I suggest that you either vacate your close, or respect WP:NOCON and move back to the initial title (albeit respecting the NOYEAR consensus of the close). – robertsky (talk) 04:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the move you linked was the one after they closed the move request, so I don’t think they are INVOLVED - apart from that, though, I agree. BilledMammal (talk) 04:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's the move they made as part of closing the RM --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I apologise to Mike for the mistake made in determining if Mike is involved. But the NOCON should still be respected. – robertsky (talk) 05:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the apology and respect that you believe strongly in your position. I encourage you to act on that belief and, per User:Novem Linguae and others, consider RMing it to a title you prefer.--Mike Selinker (talk) 06:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion has been quiet for a few days; I think the next step here is to move the article to Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus; Mike Selinker has stated that this was a no-consensus close (with the exception of WP:NOYEAR), and while they don't want the article to be moved to this title WP:NOCON is clear, and they have said they are totally fine with an admin moving the page to that title.
Once we have settled where the article should currently be then we can move forward with trying to find a consensus as Mike Selinker is asking for - trying to find a consensus first will make this mess even worse on the likely chance that we fail to do so. BilledMammal (talk) 18:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

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The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

  • there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.

Requesting a single page move

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To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}

Replace New name with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 18 April 2024" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:

Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code: 

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

The |1= unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1= and |new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

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A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1     = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2     = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3     = New title for page 3
| reason   = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia with current1 set to Wikipedia and current2 set to Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign the request with ~~~~, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.

For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1 for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1= to indicate the first article to be moved.

Request all associated moves explicitly

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Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.

If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).

  • Example → Example (disambiguation)
Template usage examples and notes
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{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}}
links talk edit
Requested move 18 April 2024

Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
Requested move 18 April 2024

Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
Requested move 18 April 2024

Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2024‎ (UTC)[reply]

Survey
Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Discussion
Any additional comments:



This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
Requested move 18 April 2024

  • Wikipedia:Requested moves → X
  • y → Z

– why Example (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).

{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
Requested move 18 April 2024

  • Wikipedia:Requested moves → ?
  • y → ?

– why Example (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting on a requested move

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All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding ~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets.
  • The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
  • Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
  • Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
  • Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• Support Oppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.

Notes

  1. ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement is transcluded into the list on this page.
  2. ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.

Current discussions

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This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 80 discussions have been relisted.

April 18, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Dallas Green (baseball) → Dallas Green – Following the recent page move of the musician to "City and Colour", there is no need to have the disambiguation for the baseball manager. After all, the musician was named after the baseball manager! A hatnote could be used to different between the two, as well with the unrelated baseball team Dallas Green Monarchs. APM (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dallas Green → Dallas Green (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
  • (Discuss) – DOMOV → Bloc Against Islamization – Defence of the Homeland – The current name of this party, see https://aplikace.mvcr.cz/seznam-politickych-stran/Vypis_Rejstrik.aspx?id=209. Another party named DOMOV also exists, but it is a different party founded in 2019: https://aplikace.mvcr.cz/seznam-politickych-stran/Vypis_Rejstrik.aspx?id=544 46.135.23.139 (talk) 18:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003 TV series) → Star Wars: Clone Wars – Per WP:SMALLDETAILS, this article doesn't need to be disambiguated from every article titled something resembling Star Wars: Clone Wars, it only has to be disambiguated from other works that could be referred to with that exact title. The 2008 show and the movie have a "the" in the title, and should thus be different enough to avoid problems. Although both are colloquially referred to as Clone Wars, just as this show is, neither is really ever referred to or could be titled here as Star Wars: Clone Wars because that title would be wrong. The only article titled exactly Star Wars: Clone Wars is the one about the comics, which is much less important than this article (it's basically just a list of comics titled something like Clone Wars or The Clone Wars, and has less than 400 views in the last month compared to over 27,000 for this article). If this goes through, I would recommend adding a hatnote to the movie, and maybe one for Clone Wars (Star Wars), just to help with navigation. Ladtrack (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Helix mazzullii → Cornu mazzullii – Helix mazzullii is not an accepted name for this species anymore (see https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1474882) Clorofolle (talk) 13:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Obi-Wan Kenobi (TV series) → Obi-Wan Kenobi (miniseries) – Per the above discussion and WP:NCTV, "(miniseries)" is the correct disambiguation for this article. The fact that there are no further seasons planned is stated and well supported in the article. If don't think this should be controversial but started this discussion to make sure there is visibility first. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – AMD Radeon Software → AMD Software – Officially rebranded to 'AMD Software' since mid 2022, sources: [1], [2]. However I am not sure if "AMD Software" is a recognisable and precise title, hence starting a discussion on this. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – K–16 → K–16 (education movement) – Which type of dash is used is not sufficient disambiguation over the many other things named "K-16" * Pppery * it has begun... 03:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Palestine → Palestine (disambiguation) – Per WP:COMMONNAME and the upcoming UNSC vote on Friday to have Palestine upgraded as a UN member, I suggest this article be renamed to simply "Palestine" like all other country articles in this Wikipedia. It doesn't make sense to use Ireland as the Republic of Ireland or the Republic of China as two articles with one on the mainland and the other on Taiwan. Even the Google Trends uses Palestine more than the State of Palestine itself. Kindly keep this debate civil. Silence of Lambs (talk) 00:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 17, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Woo Bum-kon → Woo Bum-kon incident – Per WP:BIO1E. Woo is notable for murdering a lot of people in one event, and not much else. Someone had previously tried to change this article to Uiryeong massacre, however this title is original research: all of the later Korean sources call it some variation of "Woo Bom-kon incident", "Woo Bom-kon shooting incident", etc, see (우범곤 사건, lit Woo Bum-kon incident). It is the clear common name, and we can't just make up our own titles. I believe this means it will be delisted as a vital article though, since it no longer fits the category it is listed in. Also, this article still has the problem of being overwhelmingly tilted towards 80s English news coverage instead of the boatload of later, more accurate, Korean language sourcing, but as I do not speak Korean this is a difficult issue to fix. Hopefully someone will, someday. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Socialist Republic of Romania → Socialist Romania – Here we are again. Two years ago I proposed a move to Communist Romania [3], which was unsuccessful. Many of the opposers focused on the appropriate use of Marxist terminology, as Romania did not achieve communism, which would imply if I am not mistaken an abolishment of the state, despite meeting the definition used at Communist state. Now that the page has been subject to some moves I think it is a good moment to revisit the alternative I proposed and which went largely undiscussed, Socialist Romania This article deals with all of Romania's communist regime. During this time, Romania was known by two names, Romanian People's Republic (1947–1965) and Socialist Republic of Romania (1965–1989). The current title, using the last of the two names, leaves out 40% of this period. This is not based on any policy, convention or common practice. People's Socialist Republic of Albania uses the second out of three official names, which was used only half the time the first one was; Czechoslovak Socialist Republic also uses the second out of three official names, this time it is the one used for the longest. Most other Eastern Bloc states had only one official name throughout their history and are not valid comparisons. Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES we are not required to stick to official names and can resort to descriptive rather than proper names if there is good reason. "Socialist Romania" gives 4,890 results in Google Scholar, while "Socialist Republic of Romania" gives 4,950 (and "Romanian People's Republic" gives 711). The proposed title is practically just as common (WP:COMMONNAME) as the current one. Worth noting that "Communist Romania" gives 12,700 results and is the most common name, but it is not the focus of this RM, because it was rejected on the last one. Thus, "Socialist Romania", while not violating WP:OFFICIALNAMES and WP:COMMONNAME, is shorter than the current title (WP:CONCISE), actually covers the whole period (WP:PRECISE) and is seemingly in line with Marxist terminology. The choice of using the last official name is not based on any formal procedure (and is thus arbitrary by definition), and we are not pressed to keep it. For all of these reasons I believe the proposed title is a better alternative. By the way, this will be my last attempt at altering this article's title. Super Ψ Dro 20:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Forwarding plane → Data plane – This page treats 'forwarding plane' and 'data plane' pretty much as synonyms. The term 'data plane' is by far the more common name - evidence from Google Trends. There is already a redirect at Data plane. The proposal is to rename this page to 'Data plane', and have a redirect from 'Forwarding plane' to this, m.m. Chumpih t 17:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Shoulder (road) → Hard shoulder – natural disambiguation WP:NATDAB. There is a reason why sidewalk is not titled pavement because that term can also mean the road surface. Similarly, elevator is not titled lift because that also has another meaning. So why isn;t it the case here? Yes the term is British but that doesn't require disambiguation, but shoulder does as that commonly refers to the body part. It is also permitted to switch between English varieties if 'the change reduces ambiguity', as shown at WP:RETAIN. This article has no (strong) ties to any English speaking land and since no ENGVAR is established, if this move is successful, then British English should be established for this article. JuniperChill (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – XO-2 (star) → XO-2 – XO-2 currently disambiguates between this article and OLPC XO-2, which is a redirect. This can be resolved with a hatnote; the disambiguation page is unnecessary. Also, OLPC XO-3 is an article but XO-3 is an article about the star system, not a disambiguation page. (Since this move involves deleting the page currently at the target, is an AFD also needed?) SevenSpheres (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • XO-2 → XO-2 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
  • (Discuss) – Catalan cinema → Cinema of Catalonia – WP:TITLECON. The article defines it as the cinema of Catalonia, including films in Catalan and Spanish. That means 'Catalan' refers to Catalonia, not the Catalan language, and excludes Valencia, the Baleares and Andorra. Any hypothetical article about films in Catalan should be named "Catalan-language cinema" or somesuch. NLeeuw (talk) 14:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). NLeeuw (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Maratha Empire → Maratha Confederacy – The Maratha state had been a confederation of some sort for much of its existence from at least 1721 when the Baroda State was founded and 1732 when Indore and Gwalior States were founded till 1818. The Maratha state during the Deccan wars under Shivaji and his descendents was not in the slightest an "empire", rather a quasi-state or rebel kingdom from 1674 till 1707. Besides in most scholarly sources the Maratha realm has been referred to as the "Maratha Confederacy" or "Maratha States". (Look at the infobox map itself. It says "Maratha States".) Calling it an empire is an overly biased PoV. PadFoot2008 (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Limitarianism → Limitarianism (disambiguation) – (The last set of moves is not a requested move but a histmerge, considering one was copied-pasted to the other.) I'm seeking consensus on whether the (ethical) article is a broad concept article that should occupy the base page name; it was moved in 2017. If consensus is that (ethical) is not a broad concept article (or the primary topic) [or there is no consensus], I plan to open further discussions to see if a split (#Should be several articles above) is in order. Thanks in advanced! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – World Rally Championship-2 → WRC2 – These current names are not common names, nor are they even the official names which was probably where the conversation was focused at the previous move request. Some sources of common use of proposed names; many being from reputable sources regularly used across rally wikipedia articles: *https://dirtfish.com/tag/wrc2/ *https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/2024/1682-wrc2/ *https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/hydration-tablets-helped-fuel-greensmiths-safari-wrc2-heroics/10593831/ *https://rallyjournal.com/oliver-solberg-puzzled-by-his-issues-the-crazy-thing-is/ *https://powerslideblog.blogspot.com/2023/10/winners-and-losers-from-rally-central.html *https://rallysportmag.com/power-stage-withdrawn-more-service-area-for-wrc2/ *https://www.rallye-sport.fr/classement-championnat-wrc2-2024/ *https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/68286921 *https://worthplaying.com/article/2024/4/3/news/141452-ea-sports-wrc-season-4-begins-next-week-with-new-challengesmoments-pc-vr-support-coming-in-late-april-trailer/ *https://www.irishmotorsportsnews.com/2022/12/01/exciting-junior-wrc-calendar-revealed-for-2023/ As previously mentioned, these current names are helping to spread misinformation about false FIA 'world championships'. If there is any common usage of 'World Rally Championship 2/3' from reputable sources I'd sure like to see it. Hopefully this is clearer explained than last time, I do not intend to keep requesting until I get my way. I feel the previous discussion was a mess. Rally Wonk (talk) 21:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Asha, Cyprus → Assia, Cyprus – Page was moved from 'Askia' to 'Asha, Cyprus' back in 2014 without any explanation (or discussion). As far as I can see, no English-language sources are using the current name; they use either 'Assia', 'Askia' or 'Ashia', where the first seems to be the most common, especially in the sources used in the article. T*U (talk) 13:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Jason Yat-Sen Li → Jason Li – This is the name used by the Parliament (e.g. in his inaugural speech and as Assistant Speaker). It is also shorter and simpler. There is no need to disambiguate against other Jason Lis. DilatoryRevolution (talk) 11:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sexual intercourse → Sexual intercourse in humans – This is common article about sexual intercourse which should be renamed as sexual intercourse (in common) or sexual intercourse in animals instead of the article sexual intercourse which is about human only, thus should be renamed as sexual intercourse in humans. 202.134.11.235 (talk) 10:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Raptor → Raptor (disambiguation) – Raptor as bird of prey is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and I'm a little bit perturbed at the opposing reasoning on the last discussion. Hit counts do not dictate primary topics. First, dinosaurs like Velociraptor or Dakotaraptor are named for their resemblance to extant raptors -- raptor literally meaning "robber" for the way that birds of prey generally take quarry. Second, everything with the "raptor" name refers directly or indirectly (through dromaeosaurid dinosaurs) to birds of prey. The NBA team, computer code, fighter jet, et all are named as such to draw a parallel to the ferocity and power of either raptors (the birds) or raptors (the dromaeosaurs). Lastly, dromaeosaurs are only colloquially called "raptors", whereas birds of prey can be formally referred to as such. wound theology◈ 06:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Karma (2024 song) → Karma's a Bitch – This page keeps getting moved. The previous rationale was "The song was originally called that in the Miley Cyrus demo, and the Brit Smith demo. It also takes away the disambiguating, so it more succinct." I’m unsure, however. The article is about the song as an entity, but that 'entity' hasn’t got a name, but it’s clear that there are two versions of the same song, and that they are not covers of each other. I don’t think this has ever happened before. Plus the proposed title is already a redirect to the page, so seems like the most logical title. This is a case of 'what came first, the chicken or the egg?' Another suggestion is Karma and Karma's a Bitch. 109.235.247.80 (talk) 01:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 16, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Battle of Jackson → Battle of Jackson (disambiguation) – The battle in Mississippi is the primary topic for "Battle of Jackson". The Tennessee battle was a minor cavalry raid whereas the battle in Mississippi was a major battle during the Vicksburg campaign. Without any context, "Battle of Jackson" refers to the Mississippi battle, it is the Tennessee battle alone that should require disambiguation. The Mississippi article is getting ~5x the page views. Hatnotes can easily address the other topics; the dab page can probably be deleted but might as well move it for now. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – MIA. → MIA. (German band) – How many periods are used in an acronym is a triviality. Disambiguate both by nationality as is standard for bands. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Jason Baumgartner → Jason Raymond Baumgartner – Distinguish from Jason Michael Baumgartner, creator of Pushshift. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – List of NBCUniversal television programs → List of Comcast television programs – This article lists shows produced by Sky Studios (and it's subsidiaries), which is not part of NBCUniversal but rather part of Sky Group, another company owned by Comcast. Additionally, Sky has its own section in the article with other companies that are owned by NBCU, which is misleading and confusing as it can make people assume it's part of NBCU. It would be more suitable if most of the sections were put into an NBCU section, which would exist with the Sky section. Inpops (talk) 18:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Reification (linguistics) → ? – Given the mentions of tooling and synonym discovery I think the content of this page was already more in the realm of natural language processing than linguistics. Consider merging the bottom part with semantic parsing. Sean Lewis Bethard (talk) 05:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Star Theory Games → Uber Entertainment – The developer was named Uber for the vast majority of its existence and only named Star Theory for about a year. IgelRM (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Biblical and Quranic narratives → Biblical narratives in the Quran – The current title is unclear. It is impossible to tell what the article is really about. An alternative to my suggestion might be "Biblical figures in the Quran". The subject of the article is clearly Biblical persons and stories found in some form also in the Quran. Srnec (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – E7½ → E7 1/2 – MOS:FRAC. The new title would be formatted as E7 1/2 (compare: E7½). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Orlando (disambiguation) → Orlando – I realise that this was discussed before in 2016, but consensus may have changed. A recent discussion at Talk:Orlando, Florida showed no consensus that this is the primary topic. I would put forward two reasons. Firstly, the sheer number of entries on this page means that we should be cautious about deciding that there is a primary topic. Secondly, some people argued that the Florida city is widely known outside the USA because it attracts a large number of tourists as the location of Disney World. However, speaking as a European who has never visited the USA, the extent to which US cities are widely known elsewhere is not necessarily a function of the number of tourists, it's not like e.g. Chicago or Los Angeles. PatGallacher (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Bahmani-Vijayanagara War (1375 - 1378) → Mujahid Shah's Vijayanagara campaigns – Not found any sources calling the event as "Bahmani-Vijayanagar War" of 1375-78. The article is based on the campaign of Mujahid Shah of Bahmani Sultanate after the death of his father Mohammed Shah I. Mujahid Shah's campaign against the Vijayanagara empire is notable, but no WP:RS, nor any Historians referred this to as the current title. As we can't invent names for the military conflicts such as X-Y War, proposing move. Imperial[AFCND] 09:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Djurgårdens IF Hockey → Djurgårdens IF hockey – These are dressed up like proper names, but I can't find them in sources this way. I'm open to other alternatives, e.g. Djurgårdens IF (men's hockey) and Djurgårdens IF (women's hockey), or any other disambiguated name or descriptive term, especially if found in English sources. Or we could use an untranslated name, perhaps. Dicklyon (talk) 15:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Diane O'Connor → Diane Hutchinson – Diane has now been credited as "Hutchinson" for the past 1- years - longer than O'Connor. She is no longer called "O'Connor" in the show, and more importantly, reliable sources list her using "Hutchinson", indicating that it is her WP:COMMONNAME. Searching "O'Connor" does not get as many results as Hutchinson, so I recommend this move. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Charlotte Drake → ? – Charlotte has never been credited as Charlotte Drake - she used it once as an alias in a flashback in the final episode, but nothing more - other characters have not even referenced to her as that throughout the show's duration. Furthermore, her WP:COMMONNAME is either Charlotte DiLaurentis or Cece Drake. I hence propose a move to one of these. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – I Am... (Beyoncé tour) → I Am... World Tour – This request is to restore the former name of the page. The previous move was closed under a quintaessential example of why supervoting is inappropriate and why Wikipedia is built upon consensus and not a polling democracy. The argument provided by the closer, @BilledMammal:, reads as follows: Consensus to move per WP:PRECISION; the current title is ambiguous. Ambiguity was never a reason provided for the move by itself; the argument was "There are multiple albums by multiple artists called I Am which could be easily confused as being the subject of this tour", which is not a valid argument to move a page. The tour is not a subsection of an album to argue such thing. Furthermore, being ambiguous is not a reason to move pages mainly because the titling criteria is not a set of imposed rules. The closing didn't address the arguments provided by either side and it never explained where the consensus arised. Additionally, it was never demonstrated that the official name is the WP:COMMONAME, why we should follow an WP:OFFICIALNAME, why WP:SMALLDETAILS is not applicable, why WP:NATURAL is not applicable, and since the page was moved and the redirects corrected, exactly where is the ambiguity in the title, since the Lewis tour has not improved its views caused by the alleged ambiguity. (CC) Tbhotch™ 01:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 15, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Lee Jae-myung → Lee Jaemyung – Lee uses the name Lee Jaemyung in all official documents. Additionally, the revised Korean romanization system recommends not using spaces between given names. He also uses the name Lee Jaemyung on his official site. https://www.assembly.go.kr/portal/assm/assmMemb/memberProfile.do?monaCd=IUD9392R&st=21&viewType=CONTBODY Ehgud2077 (talk) 23:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2023 Georgian protests → 2023–2024 Georgian protests – The protests have been restarted after the practically the same law was reinstroduced into the Parliament. All sides are same and the matter of protests is still the same, so it is basically a same thing and there is no point to write a new article. The protests are expected to continue so this article should be moved to 2023–2024 Georgian protests page 38.51.157.23 (talk) 19:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – November Uprising (Lviv, 1918) → November act – per all languages that have an article on this. * The article suggests that there was uprising in Lviv, while in reality, the Ukrainians took the city without a fight and disarmed Austrian soldiers. * The article characterizes the Ukrainian capture of the city as an uprising. However, shortly thereafter, the Poles also rose up against the Ukrainians, which could also be described as an uprising. Rather then the article being named "November Uprising (Lviv,1918)" the name should get redirected to Battle of Lemberg (1918) . Olek Novy (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Monte Cristo Jr. → Monte Cristo Jr. (Victorian burlesque) – Whether there is a comma before "Jr." is a triviality, and in any event the image shown for the burlesque contains a comma and the one for the musical doesn't. Neither seems to be the primary topic, so disambiguate both. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Love Etc. → Love Etc. (song) – The lowercase "etc" in the novel title is contrary to normal title formatting guidelines. Regardless of whether the second move is done, the difference in formatting between the song and novel titles is a triviality, so disambiguate the song title and redirect Love Etc. to the disambiguation page Love, etc.. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Miss P. → Miss P. (song) – "Miss P." vs. "Miss P" is a triviality. Neither the dog nor the song seems to be primary, so disambiguate. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Tbilisi Spiritual Seminary → Tbilisi Theological Seminary – The institution's own website uses uses Tbilisi Theological Academy and Seminary. Most sources seem to use "Theological" (see Google books for "Tiflis Theological Seminary", or high-quality sources like Brill's Encyclopedia of Islam (which inexplicably talks about Christian seminaries in Tiflis in some detail! Available on the Wikipedia library if you want to check.). More generally, "Spiritual" is an awkward, literal translation that isn't that accurate to idiomatic English usage. It's a seminary for learning theology, not a monastery. There are a few sources that use "Spiritual" in GBooks ([5]), but they drop off the front page quickly from ~5 or so hits, and many are books written in the past decade when the Wikipedia article was at "spiritual" and may have simply trusted the Wikipedia usage. One complication is that the institution is most notable when the city was known as "Tiflis" in the 19th and early 20th centuries, and the article was originally created under the "Tiflis" name in 2013. Given that there is a successor institution, it seems reasonable to use the modern name of the successor institution, though, even if there's fewer sources on the contemporary era. But I wouldn't be totally opposed to "Tiflis Theological Seminary" as a backup option. SnowFire (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – This Summer (Squeeze song) → This Summer – Since this just got kept at AfD, this is the next move. The other This Summer, the Alessia Cara EP, I found unquestionably non-notable and redirected a week ago. Since nobody's questioned that decision yet, and I still stand by it, it seems fair to call this PTOPIC. Target can either be deleted and converted to hatnotes or moved to This Summer (disambiguation). The latter might be preferable since there are two other entries in the see also section, though a hatnote for all three might not be unreasonable. I'm fine either way. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • This Summer → This Summer (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
  • (Discuss) – Bismillah → Bismillah (disambiguation) – The term Bismillah has a main topic, Basmala, with respect to long term significance; usage of this term are generally in reference to said main topic. As such, the disambiguation should be moved, and a redirect should be created at this title. NasssaNser 07:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Lee Jun-seok → Lee Junseok – Lee uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents.His Harvard University graduate's name is also Junseok. Additionally, the revised Korean romanization system recommends not using spaces between given names. Ehgud2077 (talk) 07:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel → ? – The previous discussion was on moving 'Strikes' to 'strike' version, and it was speedy closed by me as there is a speedy consensus on that matter. However, what had been raised in that discussion is which proposition to be used in the article title.  : The previous discussion was moving "Strikes" to "strikes", rather than to "strike", I believe? I mention this because there may be further strikes by Iran on Israel later in the year, and it's not clear whether this article would include those, or if they would get their own articles. I think clearest would be to include the full date, so this article is specifically about the missile and drone attack on the one day, which I think would be 14 April 2024 (starting in the early morning hours local time). Warren Dew (talk) 05:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Arthur Morgan (Red Dead) → Arthur Morgan – I checked every existing "Arthur Morgan" article page views, but obviously this fictional character page views is way too far compare from the others. And when you look up Arthur Morgan, of course the fictional character is more well known than others. Greenish Pickle! (🔔) 05:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Arthur Morgan → Arthur Morgan (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
  • (Discuss) – Nihon Shōgakkō fire → Japanese mission school fire – per WP:USEENGLISH, even in article it's stated 'English-language newspapers covering the incident in 1923 usually called it the Japanese mission school fire or the Buddhist mission fire.'. The article title appears to be just the school's old Japanese name given from the website with 'fire' added to it - there is no evidence of 'Nihon Shōgakkō fire' that doesn't appear to be WP:CIRCULAR, I also couldn't find any evidence of the presumable Japanese translation of the title. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Bakar → Bakar, Croatia – WP:NOPRIMARY. This small Croatian town does not seem particularly notable, and gets a fraction of the traffic compared to Bakar (musician).[6] Make dabpage at the base name. 162 etc. (talk) 00:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 14, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Milyang Park clan → Miryang Park clan – Per WP:TITLECON & WP:COMMONNAME, the article name should be the Miryang Park clan. Other Korean clans from Miryang, such as the Miryang No clan and the Miryang Dang clan are also titled this way instead of the Milyang variant. The current article title seems to be at its current location based on it being an WP:OFFICIALNAME, however the example cited is based on the url of the Korean-language website of this clan. There are no other indicators on this website that contain the English term "Milyang Park". The term "Miryang Park" or its variants is also used by a variety of sources and appears to be the WP:COMMON NAME: The Korea Times [1][2], the Christian Science Monitor[3], this research paper from the Journal of People Plants and Environment [4], this research paper from the Korean Anthropology Review[5], and A History of Korea: From Antiquity to the Present [6]. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 23:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Travis Lane Stork → Travis Stork – WP:COMMONNAME, sources almost universally refer to the subject as Travis Stork, not by his full name. I'm honestly surprised that it wasn't under the common name prior, given its conciseness. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Convention Centre Precinct → Te Pae – As per the discussion above, there is a case for this article to be renamed. The question is: what should the new name be? You can read my contribution above and I have a slight preference for "Te Pae" as it's what The Press uses most commonly, and they would be the one who write about this facility most regularly. This name is also the most WP:PRECISE. That said, I won't mind if this lands on any of the longer name options. Schwede66 22:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Muhammad al-Bukhari → Al-Bukhari – This is simply the most famous al-Bukhari. Al-Bukhari even redirects here. This is common with Arabic nisbas where strictly speaking, there's a lot of people who share a portion of the fullest version of the name, so we just follow the WP:RS sources for the short form used. Such as his student, al-Tirmidhi (not Muhammad al-Tirmidhi), al-Tabari (not Muhammad al-Tabari), al-Nasa'i (not Ahmad al-Nasa'i) etc. "Bukhari" without the Arabic definite article can be a disambiguation, though al-Bukhari is clearly WP:COMMONNAME per this figure. Aqsian313 (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Lapinjärvi (village) → Lapinjärven kirkonkylä – All of these articles about Finnish church villages begin with The X church village (also known as X; Finnish: X:n kirkonkylä, Swedish: X Kapellby), where X is the name of the municipality. However, there are no references to establish "also known as X" part and the current article names. The official Finnish name of each village is either X:n kirkonkylä or an ambiguous Kirkonkylä (which makes total sense locally). I also did not find an established translation for kirkonkylä (the literal 'church village' is not found in many sources), which is why I am suggesting to use the Finnish name for each village. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 14:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Cumnock (original) railway station → Old Cumnock railway station – I've been tidying up disambiguation for former railway stations in Scotland per WP:UKSTATIONDAB and I'm not 100% sure what the best solution is for these two stations. The first was a Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway station opened as Old Cumnock in 1850, renamed to Cumnock in 1955 and closed in 1965. The second was a Glasgow and South Western Railway station that was only ever known as Cumnock, opened in 1872 and closed in 1951. I feel the natural disambiguation (using Old Cumnock and Cumnock) works best as there was only a brief period where the first station was known as Cumnock and they had different names when they were both in operation. The other options for disambiguation don't really work either as they are both in the same town and they were both run by the same company as the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway became the Glasgow and South Western Railway shortly after the first station opened. The current naming pattern doesn't work with the policy so they will have to move, I don't know what the disambiguation for the second station should be though as their is also a Cumnock railway station in Australia and Cumnock railway station needs to be a dab page. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Nigerien crisis (2023–present) → Nigerien crisis (2023–2024) – Some discussion topics on this talk page seem to agree that the crisis is over, hence this request to move the page title. ECOWAS withdrew sanctions and France withdrew troops, there seem to be no "original crisis" still present. Yxuibs (talk) 03:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 13, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Antun Rudinski → Anton Rudinski – per sources: footballdatabase.eu, eu-football.info, reprezentacija.rs, crvenazvezdafk.com, partizanopedia.rs, fcmetz.com, kicker.de, etc. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 13 April 2024 — Fixing timestamp so RMCDbot puts the notices on the article. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – S.T.S. → S.T.S. (band) – Whether an abbreviation is spelled with a terminal period or not is a triviality. In all of these cases the title without the terminal period redirects somewhere else, so the title with the period should do the same. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Diego Lopes → Diego Lopes (footballer) – huge number of pageviews for the fighter: https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Diego_Lopes_%28fighter%29%7CDiego_Lopes. I believe searched are looking for the fighter over the footballer. I am not sure there is a need for a DAB page since there are only two articles only. Marty2Hotty (talk) 21:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Talladega → Talladega (disambiguation) – Per WP:DABCONCEPT all of the other uses refer to the city so the base name should redirect to it. Only the sing is a full match anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Postmodernism (international relations) → Poststructuralism (international relations) – The current (9th, 2023) edition of the only source cited in this stub discusses this topic under the heading of "poststructuralism", with "postmodernism" being mentioned only as a loose synonym in a box on p. 183. (In the absence of additional sources supporting this being a real sub-field of international relations, I would also support deletion rather than renaming. However this is outside my area of expertise.) Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 19:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Ministry of Heritage, Sport, Tourism and Culture Industries (Ontario) → Ministry of Tourism, Culture and Sport (Ontario) – The Ministry appears to have changed back to using its old name. This is the name listed on ontario.ca, the government's official website and ola.org, the website of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario. The old webpage for the Ministry https://www.ontario.ca/page/ministry-heritage-sport-tourism-culture-industries, redirects to a page with the new name. This change appears to have happened with the appointment of Neil Lumsden as Minister following the 2022 general election. Therefore current name of the article is not longer accurate. Legend of 14 (talk) 18:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Isabella II → Isabel II – Per WP:PRECISE and WP:COMMONNAME. The Spanish version of her name is both unambiguous and more commonly used in reliable sources. Ngrams shows Isabel II is more commonly used than Isabella II, and "Isabella II" is ambiguous with Isabella II of Jerusalem. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 15:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 18:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 17:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Chaldean Mafia → Chaldean mafia – I think the capitalization is unnecessary as the article refers to a collective of groups rather than a single group, and to maintain consistency with other ethnic mafia articles, i.e. Albanian mafia, Serbian mafia, Russian mafia, etc. Shaolin Punk (talk) 15:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Ravi Gulati → Ravi Gulati (activist) – With all due respect, the EastEnders character is simply more well-known. When searched, the vast majority of the results are related to the fictional character, even on searches like "Ravi Gulati activist". This is also reflected in the "References" headings for both, with the real person having only three cited sources. In this case, Ravi Gulati (EastEnders) would also be a redirect. As a plan B, Ravi Gulati could be a disambiguation page, but I think is unnecessary as the character is significantly better documented. FishLoveHam (talk) 15:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – London Country South East → Kentish Bus – This is the common name used by the operator since 1987.[2] Considering the operator was founded in 1986 - the article lead references that, too - I don't think it makes a lot of sense to use an anachronistic name used for only one year as the page title. Hullian111 (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Samajbadi Morcha, Nepal → Socialist Front (Nepal) – I see no evidence that the current title is used more than Socialist Front. In fact, when I googled it pretty much every result used Samajwadi Morcha which could also be the common name. Charles Essie (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Anarchyte (talk) 07:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Naval militia → Naval militias in the United States – Naval militias exist on other countries, not just the United States. This article contains good information about Naval militias in the United States but almost nowhere else. Leonard LMT (talk) 04:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Mozambique boat disaster → ? – Mozambique is quite a big place. Surely we can get more specific. I am not familiar with the region, however, and will let more informed editors decide on a new name. Bremps... 03:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – USS Arizona → USS Arizona (disambiguation) – I believe that the USS Arizona sunk at Pearl Harbor is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC under both criteria. As for usage, over the past 180 days, it's received over 89% of views: 265,274 vs. 20,481 for the modern ship, 8,432 for the DAB page, 1,469 for the Civil War ship, and 778 for the Neshaminy. Under long-term significance, the articles that could be titled USS Arizona consist of only US ships and there's no reason to expect that will change any time soon, and this Arizona is one of the most historically significant US ships of any name. Egsan Bacon (talk) 01:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 12, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Polish–Muscovite Wars (1605–1618) → Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) – The term "Muscovy" is not quite correct in the context of historical events. After the establishment of a unified centralized authority, the country called itself the Tsardom of Russia, not Muscovy. Such a name was relevant only during the times when Moscow existed independently, but the formation of the Tsardom of Russia happened long before the war. This can also confuse the reader since the article refers to Tsardom of Russia, which uses a different designation. Additionally, it should be clarified that this term was often used by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth during the conflict between it and the Tsardom of Russia for propaganda purposes, as the term clearly implies feudal fragmentation of the state. Nowadays, the term is also used as a derogatory term towards Russia - https://www.svoboda.org/a/ukraina-moskoviya-i-drugie-yaroslav-shimov-o-borjbe-za-vostok-evropy/32330846.html, https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/11/29/7378557/. PawelSULKUL (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – EEA → EEA (disambiguation) – So surprised how EEA is still a dab and doesn't redirect to anything (or even an article with this name) yet. Anyway, it is clear than the European Economic Area is the primary topic for EEA so EEA should redirect there, as evidenced by this graph at the European Economic Area 28k vs European Environmental Agency 925 and the Economic Area is way more popular than the other articles known as the EEA. JuniperChill (talk) 21:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – House of Cannabis → THC NYC – The museum is scrubbing House of Cannabis from online presence, possibly due to not being the trademark holders at USPTO Et2kah (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – College of Arts and Sciences → College of arts and sciences – Change to sentence case (MOS:AT). This is a type of college within many universities: it is not a specific institution. Cfls (talk) 14:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Direct Democracy Ireland → Liberty Republic – It has rebranded, and the Electoral Commission has proposed to change its registration. It doesn’t have the prominence of Renua, so the same issues don’t arise in terms of that rebranding. However, my caution is that the registration won’t take effect for these elections, so candidates will still appear on the ballot as DDI. I’d be inclined to call them Liberty Republic, but with an explanatory footnote, but worth a discussion before implementing any change to the article title. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 12:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – MonsterVerse → Monsterverse – The trademarked name is Monsterverse with a lowercase "v". If you view the Monsterverse website, you will see at this at the bottom by the copyright information. Furthermore, the official X profile uses a lowercase "v". ScottSullivan01 (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 10:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Frank Hayes (jockey) → Death of Frank Hayes – This is a one-event biography for a guy who absolutely would never have an article if not for this one event. It isn't about him, but about his death, and it should be there. Red Slash 02:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – AEW Worlds End → Worlds End (2023) – The 2023 Worlds End was the first Worlds End event. The 2024 Worlds End event is coming. Fixer88 (talk) 02:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – WrestleDream → WrestleDream (2023) – The 2023 WrestleDream was the first WrestleDream event and the 2024 WrestleDream is coming. Therefore, both the name of the WrestleDream and AEW WrestleDream pages must change. Fixer88 (talk) 02:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Young Macedonian Literary Association → Young Macedonian Literary Society – Hello. This was the original title until the article was moved back in 2013 without any discussion (or consensus for that matter). I'm unable to restore the original title due to technical reasons. I checked Google Books and Google Scholar and this appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME. StephenMacky1 (talk) 16:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 01:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 11, 2024

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  • (Discuss) – When the Pawn... → When the Pawn ... – Per MOS:ELLIPSIS, there should be a space before the dots. We could also hypothetically use a longer title; I notice several of the cited sources go up to the word "King", so we could use When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks like a King ... (please confirm MOS:CT about the lowercase "like") or at least go as far as "Conflicts", as in When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts ... —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Lake Suviana explosion → 2024 Bargi hydroelectric power station explosion – The explosion was not in Lake Suviana, but in a power plant 30m below the ground. This tree might help finding the best title for the article: * There is a parc: Suviana and Brasimone lakes regional park ** There are two lakes in the park: Lake Suviana (with a dam downstream) and Lake Brasimone ***There are five villages around Lake Suviana including Suviana [it] (namesake) and Bargi ****Bargi is located upstream of the lake. In Bargi is located the Bargi hydroelectric power station [it] (namesake of Bargi); that uses water of Lake Suviana but àlso of other water bassins in the region (what I understand also of Lake Brasimone, but I'm not 100% sure of that) *****The explosion took place 30 metres below the ground, inside this power plant; not in the lake. 82.174.61.58 (talk) 18:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Valerie Bríd O'Leary → Valerie O'Leary – Middle name is unnecessary in article name, makes it easier to find using just first and last name. Radiogrove (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Pied-Noir → Pied-noir – Since the title is blocked by renaming and no one seems to agree to change it, and since all, or almost all, other pages in this encyclopaedia maintain capital letters, I have modified this article accordingly, to maintain some consistency. It's undeniable that in French "pied-noir" (and the plural form "pieds-noirs") is never written with capital letters (see https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/pied-noir/60796, https://dictionnaire.orthodidacte.com/article/etymologie-pied-noir, https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/pied-noir and https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieds-noirs). I propose the lowercase; of course, all other pages that maintain capitalisation should also be changed (about this last point, I think I'm one of the very few in this encyclopaedia who cares about consistency between articles; perhaps because it's tedious and time-consuming work). JacktheBrown (talk) 17:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – France Olympic football team → France national under-23 football team – Per WP:COMMONNAME: sources are referring to this team as the France U23s (see FFF source.) Also, like in most cases, the "general name" of the team is the under-23s, which "takes the place" of the Olympic team at the Olympics. This is the more general name in that the team also competes in friendly matches outside of the Olympics. And again COMMONNAME. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Kalolaa-kumukoa → Kalola-a-Kumukoa – Inline with the few reliable sources on the subject. *In the source (Esther T. Mookini "Keopuolani: Sacred Wife, Queen Mother, 1778-1823", p. 10) used Kalolaakumukoa not Kalolaa-kumukoa, with a break in the line on the page. The hyphen is used to connect the two parts of the name. See the pdf Kalola-a-Kumukoa in some variation is used in: Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii, p. 476; Edith Kawelohea McKinzie's Hawaiian Genealogies: Extracted from Hawaiian Language Newspapers, Vol. 2, p. 13, Kapiikauinamoku's (Sammy Amalu) Story of Maui Royalty [The story of Maui royalty — Ulukau books link], and this newspaper article by Robert W. Wilcox [Robert Wilcox sounds off, 1898. | nupepa (nupepa-hawaii.com) link]. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – College of William & Mary → College of William and Mary – In the formal documents of the college, "College of William and Mary" is the way how the institute addresses itself. This is the usage in the institute's documents, including the Constitution of the Faculty Assembly of the College of William and Mary and the Constitution of the Student Assembly of the College of William and Mary. Cfls (talk) 15:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Billy Sullivan (American football) → Billy Sullivan – Primary topic per pageviews, getting about 89% so far this year.[7] As a plan B, if consensus finds that he is not the primary topic, move to Billy Sullivan (businessman) - the (American football) tag is generally used for those who played the game. 162 etc. (talk) 04:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) → Israel–Lebanon–Syria conflict (2023–present) – The article covers not just the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict in Lebanon, but the conflict in Syria as well. As the casualties list shows only about half the casualties are Hezbollah, the rest are Syrian, Iranian and Palestinian combatants. In this case, the "Israel-Lebanon-Syria" will imply the location of where the conflict has occurred, not the participants (as recommended by WP:NCWWW). Indeed, it would be WP:CONSISTENT with 2006 Lebanon war and South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) , which are both named after places the conflict happened rather than the combatants. VR (Please ping on reply) 03:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Ecclesiastical polity → Church polity – Concision and recognizability. "Church" and "ecclesiastical" are exactly equivalent, but "church" is a more common term to the average user. According to Ngram, the two phrases are now roughly as common as one another, though "ecclesiastical" is more historically prevalent. Dirkwillems (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss) – Rasna → Rasna (drink) – I had disambiguated this recently, and Talk:Rasna (disambiguation) contains a pretty good explanation based on data on why there is no primary topic by usage. User Fram reverted this move now, so here's a formal RM to gather more community input. Fundamentally, we do not have much reason to believe that the term "Rasna" is strongly associated by the average English reader with the drink made in India, and a simple disambiguation list is the easy and reliable solution here. India is certainly a huge English-speaking country, but this product does not appear to be well-known globally (at least according to the current article content). With regard to long-term significance, it's not clear that the drink would come even close to overshadowing the other homonyms, which include the Etruscan civilization, and half a dozen small settlements across Europe. Joy (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Nicaragua Canal → ? – As the opening sentence of this article puts it, "there is a long history of attempts to build a canal across Nicaragua to connect the Atlantic Ocean with the Pacific Ocean", from as early as the 1500s to the most recent and hence most notable one in the 2010s. Currently, the general article is at "History of" and the specific one about the 2010s project at "Nicaragua Canal". Each has a section summarizing the other, Nicaragua Canal § History and History of the Nicaragua Canal § HKND project (2010–present), with {{main}} hatnote crosslinks. This likely made sense when said project was active and there was reason to expect it to result in an actual canal, which would obviously have been vastly more notable than any mere plan to build one. But by the end of that decade, the project had been essentially abandoned, and I don't think it makes sense any longer. "Nicaragua Canal" has about 200 incoming article links ([11]), of which I surveyed the first 20. The result is pretty much an even split between links that should indeed go to the 2010s project, and links that should go to the general page, or in some cases ideally one of its sections about earlier specific projects. But it's more confusing to follow a link to an article that's about the wrong specific thing than to an article that's too general, especially when that specific article has an unspecific title. So a switch would clarify the situation, IMO. The most obvious choice for a new title for the specific article is "Nicaraguan Canal and Development Project", per its opening sentence - though something that includes a date, as the "HKND project (2010–present)" section title does, might be more informative, so I left that open. - 2A02:560:58C3:0:B0B9:6993:EC37:F849 (talk) 15:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Over the River and Through the Woods → Over the River and Through the Woods (play) – Everyone is familiar with the song as using the word "Woods"; it is very confusing to dis-ambiguate the song by using the word "Wood". Georgia guy (talk) 11:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – O Mur Apunar Dekh → O Mur Apunar Dex – Dekh means to look, which is not the correct word. The correct word is country, which is either Dex in Assamese phonetics, or Desh in generic Indian transcription Chaipau (talk) 23:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Chaipau (talk) 17:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 10:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Unge Ferrari → Stig Brenner – He changed his artist name from "Unge Ferrari" to "Stig Brenner" in 2020. The Norwegian article was moved in 2022, and the German article also uses his newer artist name. 12u (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 3α-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase → AKR1C4 – This article covers the type 1 isoform of the enzyme, which is encoded by the gene AKR1C4. The current title is ambiguous with the other isoforms of this enzyme, which each have an article under the name of the gene which encode them (AKR1C2, AKR1C3). This title could be made more precise by lengthening it to 3α-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1. However, to make it more concise and consistent as well, I propose moving the page to AKR1C4 (which was the title until 2012). SilverLocust 💬 19:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Pedro Pagés → ? – "Pedro Pagés" is currently the title of a biographical article of a guy who played two seasons in the major Negro Leagues and does not appear to meet the notability criteria for an article. (Historians don't even know when the guy died). He's certainly less notable than the current Pedro Pagés. If that article is even kept, it should be moved to "Pedro Pagés (outfielder)" and this article moved to "Pedro Pagés." Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 13:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Legal status of fictional pornography depicting minors → Legal status of fictional child pornography – I am making a move request as User:EggRoll97 has reverted my move using with the basis of WP:RMUM. According to WP:RMUM; Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply: No article exists at the new target title; 'There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.' & 'If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself.' My move was done on the basis of WP:CONCISE & WP:PRECISE, as 'child pornography' is much shorter and more concise than 'pornography depicting minors', & the page for Child pornography is not titled 'Pornography depicting minors', or maybe rename it to 'Legal status of simulated child pornography', To fit with the aforementioned article. Why would you object to this? Formerlychucks (talk) 11:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – AnadoluJet → AJet – AnadoluJet has since rebranded to AJet earlier this month and also began ticket sales under the new brand. I am aware that Helios Airways was once named AJet as well, but AJet has a disambiguation page that has Helios listed already. Lifetimelucid (talk) 21:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Vincent Lee Chuan Leong → 1999 Singapore kidnapping case – The current title is effectively WP:BLP1E and WP:BLPCRIME. "Kidnapping of X" may not work given that the victim's name is generally not available outside, and even if so, we should generally avoid naming the victim here was 14yo when it happened. The proposed title is a descriptive one, and if there is a better alternative title, I am amenable to the proposed title as well. – robertsky (talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 22:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Francis, Duke of Guise → François, Duke of Guise – Requesting move of these articles per WP:COMMONNAME. I will begin my argument with ngrams, even though I find them largely overcrowded by noise. Please see [20] [21] [22] [23] Moving beyond ngrams, my argument revolves around the English literature that focuses on the family, the era of the Italian Wars, and the era French Wars of Religion, both areas of which they played a central role in and are therefore not an incidental mention in. Stuart Carroll (2011) Martyr's and Murderers: The Guise Family and the Making of Europe, is the most recent English language biography of the family - it refers to the second duke of Guise as François, his son the third duke as Henri and the fifth duke of Guise as Henri II (also the seventh duke of Guise as François-Joseph though that Wikipedia article is already at François-Joseph, so does not require changing.) The other recent English book which discusses them in the title is Mark Konnert's (2006) Local Politics in the French Wars of Religion: The Towns of Champagne, the duc de Guise and the Catholic League (1560-1595) - it refers to François, and Henri. I will now briefly survey English academics who have written on this area in the last couple of decades, and their various positions on the names. Gould (2006) = François; Roelker (1968) = François, Henri; Knecht (2014) = François, Henri; Diefendorf (1991) = François, Henri; Roberts (2013) = François, Henri; Sutherland (1962) = François, Henri; Tullchin (2012) = François, Henri; Roelker (1996) = François, Henri; Baumgartner (1986) = Henri; Harding (1978) = François, Henri; Heller (2003) = Henri; Potter (1997) = François, Henri; Carroll (2005) = François, Henri; Bernstein (2004) = Henri; Konnert (1997) = François, Henri; Benedict (2003) = François, Henri; Salmon (1979) = François, Henri; Shaw (2019) [only English language survey of the Italian Wars] = François; Pitts (2012) = François, Henri; Neuschel (1989) = François; Kingdon (1967) = François, Henri; Greengrass (1988) = François; Conner (2000) = François, Spangler (2016) = Henri Tingle (2006) is a little unusual, refers to François, and Henry; likewise Shimizu (1970) refers to Francis, and Henri Holt (2002) = Francis, Henry, he is the only French Wars of Religion era academic I am aware of who throughout all his works consistently calls them this way. Wood (2002) never refers to either duke by their first name. sovietblobfish (talk) 11:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 00:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – If a tree falls in a forest → If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? – or If a tree falls ...? It is not clear why the question that is the subject of this article is truncated after the first seven words, leaving the rest unstated and the question mark absent. No ellipsis is provided to show that something is missing. The topic is a question, and that can be seen from the opening sentence, but the article title doesn't show that. The Bruce Cockburn song title truncates it after only four words. If we think the question is just too long, let's stop at four like he did, but add the ellipsis and the question mark. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Lady L → Lady L (film) – For disambiguation. The film gets more pageviews but it was based on the novel so it's best to say no primary topic. In any event whether the initials have a period or not is trivial. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 00:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Joint Light Tactical Vehicle → Joint Light Tactical Vehicle competition – There are basically two extremely similar articles about the JLTV. Actually three. Joint Light Tactical Vehicle resembles an article about the development program, while Oshkosh L-ATV is about the JLTV selected for production. There is enough content for two articles, but I would guess that most people searching for "JLTV" would expect to find an article about the production vehicle than the competition that produced it. Background: "L-ATV" was the marketing name for the truck originally designed by Oshkosh for the JLTV program, which Oshkosh won in 2015. Presumably Oshkosh did not wish to tie the vehicle's success to the JLTV program, and so branded it as Each branch of the U.S. military calls it the "JLTV". Oshkosh usually refers to the L-ATV as the JLTV, although very occasionally Oshkosh will market a variant of the JLTV as an L-ATV on their own initiative. Here is a press release where Oshkosh announces the sale of "JLTVs", not "L-ATVs", to European countries. AM General will take over production of the JLTV from Oshkosh at the end of the year. They will be calling their version the JLTV A2. If this move is carried out there should be a section about the competition with a pointer to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle competition. Schierbecker (talk) 02:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Median state → Median kingdom – The term "kingdom" is more common and natural as evidenced in the article itself. Mawer10 (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mawer10 (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Afon Tanat → River Tanat – Ngrams shows "River Tanat" is used more in English, therefore the WP:COMMONNAME. As used by CPAT[24], NRW[25], and UK Gov. A lot of search results seem to take after Wikipedia when searching the current name. Plus the current name is from Welsh, but not the apparent common Welsh name itself, which is Afon Tanad, so the current is neither the common Welsh or English name. DankJae 12:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – English Maelor → Maelor Saesneg – WP:COMMONNAME, Google Ngrams shows a long preference that "Maelor Saesneg" is used more in English than "English Maelor", therefore is the common name in English. WP:UE and USEENGLISH state to follow the common name, non-English derived names can be used like Île-de-France if they're the common name. DankJae 15:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Polish–Ukrainian ethnic conflict → Polish–Ukrainian relations (1939–1947) – The article's author was unable to demonstrate the source basis for the existence of a Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict in 1942-47; the very fact that he places the Polish anti-communist and pro-independence Freedom and Independence Association on the Ukrainian side demonstrates his poor grasp of the subject, but also, and above all, the inability to narrate the entire history solely through the optics of "ethnic conflict." For indeed, this is a misleading take. First, because it is difficult to define the actors. The Polish side is not homogeneous: there are many organizations, and the three main currents (the Home Army, the Nationalists and the Communists) had different attitudes toward the Ukrainian cause and did not pursue a uniform policy. Likewise, on the Ukrainian side, there is the OUN-M, OUN-B (and UPA), UCK collaborators, Bulbovets, Ukrainian Soviet partisans, Ukrainian SSR authorities, etc. Second, despite generally hostile relations, there were also periods of peace, attempts at agreement, and actual alliances. There is an entire book by Grzegorz Motyka and Rafał Wnuk on this subject: "Pany and rezuny. Cooperation of the AK-WiN and the UPA 1945-1947". Many Ukrainians served in the Polish army in 1939 and in the Polish armed forces in the west. Pavlo Shandruk cooperated with the Polish government in exile etc. These are things largely not currently described on Wikipedia. In the current situation, I see two choices: # due to the fact that the article is a translation from the Polish Wiki of the article under the title " Polish-Ukrainian partisan fighting", we can move it under this title and change the scope to describe the skirmishes between the two partisan movement. # or, as I suggest, move it under the title I proposed and describe the whole of Polish-Ukrainian relations during the war. I believe that such an article would be valuable and would be a " container" tying together all the topics currently described in isolation (the massacres of Poles in Volhynia, the Hrubieszów revolution, the WiN-UPA alliance, etc.). Marcelus (talk) 20:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 19:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Anarchist St. Imier International → Anti-Authoritarian International – In my experience, the term "Anti-Authoritarian International" appears to be the common name for this organisation in historical sources.[27] I rarely see it referred to as the "Anarchist International", as the term "anarchist" wasn't even formally adopted by members of the organisation until after it had already collapsed (see Graham 2019, p. 339). But we do know that they referred to themselves as "anti-authoritarians", in order to distance themselves from the Marxist International. Grnrchst (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Genital modification and mutilation → Genital modification – Fails WP: CRITERIA. 1.) It lacks precision, as it encompasses related but dissimilar topics, often being misinterpreted by users to mean that all genital modifications listed on the page are mutilations. 2.) It fails the criteria of concision. As all genital mutilations are forms of genital modifications, genital modification would suffice. (e.g. It is like if a page was termed "List of dogs and bulldogs" instead of "List of dogs") 3.) It fails the criteria of neutrality, as it implies to readers (problematically) that gender-affirming surgery, labiaplasty, circumcision, and pearling are mutilation. It also associates "modification" with exclusively negative changes. To make it meet WP: NPOV, you'd have to add "enhancement" or another positive term, a proposal that would further fail the criteria of concision. 4.) The title goes against article precedents surrounding body modification articles. All of which leave out titles that give positive or negative personal judgements. KlayCax (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 13:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Novogrudok → Navahrudak – Belarusian is the native language of Belarus, so the name should be transliterated from that native language. --W (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 17:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Self-Defence in Lithuania and Belarus (1918) → Self-Defence of Lithuania and Belarus – The article has been moved several times without any discussion. I think of is more grammatically correct than in; and there is no need to add data range, not until another article exists necessiating a disambig (there is no such article on Polish Wiki AFAIK. As for WP:COMMONNAME, GS returns 2 hits for 'of' variant, and 0 for 'in'. I can't get much useful stuff from GBooks (one book uses the term Lithuanian & Belarusian Self - Defence Force which probably doesn't even merit a redirect. Note also that the Polish article is currently at "samoobrony kresowe", Kresy Self-Defence but that term does not seem to be used in English; one book uses the term "self-defense in the Kresy" which does not sound correct ("the Kresy"??). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Charles I, Cardinal de Bourbon → Charles I de Bourbon (archbishop of Rouen) – There is a lot of intersection between the names Charles, the house of Bourbon and the title of cardinal. See Cardinal of Bourbon and Charles de Bourbon. The current title is confusing because this fellow was not the first cardinal of the House of Bourbon named Charles. He was the first Charles to be archbishop of Rouen. The title I propose follows the French Wikipedia. Srnec (talk) 22:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – The Grudge (2020 film) → The Grudge (2019 film) – According to Box Office Mojo and The Numbers (both of which have been vetted as reliable by WP:FILM/R), the movie's earliest release date was December 31, 2019 in Indonesia: [28][29]; as per MOS:FILM, such date should be considered when determining release dates of movie articles. Initiating this move request on behalf of User:Forty.4, whose technical move request was contested over a month ago (see post above), hence this request. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 15:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – List of Korean films of 1919–1948 → List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule – I don't agree with the 1948 cutoff as a threshold. See Cinema of Korea; I think if anything 1945 would make more sense as a dividing line. The Korean Wikipedia and Japanese Wikipedia agrees with me (ko:분류:일제강점기의 영화 작품; ja:日本統治時代の朝鮮の映画作品の一覧; both mean "[List of] films produced in Korea under Japanese rule"). My guess the original rationale for the 1948 line is that North Korea/South Korea were only officially established in 1948. But they de facto existed from 1945 to 1948, and commonly went by those names. I don't think their official establishment is such an important distinction for us to use such an arbitrary dividing line. 1947 and 1949 in North/South Korea were very similar. 1944 and 1946 were extremely different. Furthermore, I'd argue North and South Korean cinema were divided even just months after the 1945 division; North Korea's first film was the 1946 newsreel Our Construction, and thereafter its major films were basically all government-produced or approved. South Korean cinema was still largely produced by private citizens. If this move happens, I can do the rescope. I'll fit it into the formats of Lists of South Korean films and List of North Korean films. Just tag me once it's done. toobigtokale (talk) 20:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Tasmania Football Club → Tasmania Devils – OK, it's official! Looks like media are going with "Tasmania Devils": [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] – Teratix ₵ 12:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 15:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2018–2019 Gaza border protests → Great March of Return – In this requested move discussion, I am adding even more RS to the overwhelming majority that have already been provided in the last one on 12 October 2023. Per WP:POVNAME guideline:

Googling "Gaza border protest" gives off 6,360 results, while googling the "Great March of Return" gives a whooping 206,000 results, including overwhelming majority of RS! Sources provided earlier: The Guardian, BBC, Middle East Eye, Al Jazeera, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, Medecins Sans Frontiers, a human rights journal, United Nations, and many scholarly works [35], [36]. New sources since then: Vice, The Lancet , The Nation, Foreign Affairs, Sage Journals, Middle East Eye, Reporters Without Borders, Carnegie, Democracy Now, Btselem, Dawn media. More sources since beginning of discussion: Forensic Architecture; CIA Factbook; BMC Psychology journal; and even the Jerusalem Post. Precedent: Only a minority of these RS say Great March of Return in quotes; my response to that counter argument is The Troubles example: they are still being referred to in quotes even 25 years later by reliable sources such as Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, Reuters and Washington Post. Also Kristallnacht [37]. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • (Discuss) – ULTra (rapid transit) → Ultra (rapid transit) – Per MOS:TM, follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the company considers the name preference official. We should revert to that name. Aitraintheeditorandgamer (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 02:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Nudivirus → Nudiviridae – The genus Nudivirus is obsolete. The genus was proposed in 2006 (https://doi.org/10.1007/s00705-006-0872-2), but was replaced in 2013 by 4 new genera and the family Nudiviridae (https://ictv.global/ictv/proposals/2013.003a-kI.A.v1.Nudiviridae.pdf). The content of this page was changed accordingly some time ago. It is now proposed to also change the page title to reflect the currently accepted taxonomy as well as for consistency and clarity. Bernhard Zelazny (talk) 10:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 02:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Fremantle Football Club → Fremantle Dockers – Discussing titles for the new Tasmanian team has me thinking about how our AFL clubs' articles are named – in my view, they're not up to scratch with modern titling policy. For context, of the 18 AFL clubs, Gold Coast Suns, Greater Western Sydney Giants, Sydney Swans, West Coast Eagles and Western Bulldogs currently use the "[location] [mascot]" combo, with the other 13 currently at "[location] Football Club". In my view, we should be using the "[location] [mascot]" combination more often, if not in all cases, because it is more concise, recognisable and is used more often by our sources. Past justifications for using "[location] Football Club" have tended to rest on the idea that articles should use whatever the club's official name is, which is not necessarily true. Aside from this general rationale, some points specific to Fremantle: *Clubs that have acquired their current name after the 1980s – Sydney (relocated 1982), West Coast (entered 1987), Western Bulldogs (rebranded 1996), Gold Coast (entered 2011) and GWS (entered 2012) – all use "[location] [mascot]". The exception is Adelaide (entered 1991, title is "Adelaide Football Club") but their article also probably needs to be moved. Because Fremantle entered in 1995, using "[location] [mascot]" is especially consistent with the more recent clubs tending to use this format. *Many third-party sources use "Fremantle Dockers": PerthNow, Fox, The West, ZeroHanger, Nine, Seven, The Roar Sydney Morning Herald, ABC. I'm not exactly going to say "Fremantle Dockers" is the WP:COMMONNAME, because the actual COMMONNAME is probably just "Fremantle" or "the Dockers", but those names aren't suitable options. *Fremantle consistently use "Dockers" over "Football Club" in their own branding. It's on their logo, their social media accounts, their official app and so on. *"Dockers" is consistent across time. During their time in the AFL, Fremantle have never been known by a name other than the Dockers. *"Dockers" is consistent across teams. There's no reserves or AFLW team using a different name. And some other notes: *This move request is intended as a warm-up to gauge community sentiment and avoid changing too much at once, not to suggest Fremantle is the only club that needs their article moved. *If this move request succeeds, associated articles with "Fremantle Football Club" in their title (e.g. List of Fremantle Football Club players) should be moved to the equivalent title with "Fremantle Dockers". – Teratix ₵ 08:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Lusitania → Lusitania (Roman province) – or simply Lusitania (province), for disambiguation. The vast majority of readers looking for Lusitania on Wikipedia are likely to be looking for the famous ocean liner that was sunk by a torpedo during the First World War. Pageview comparison here. (Note that Titanic is about another famous ocean liner that sank a few years earlier. The two most popular articles on Wikipedia that start with "Sinking of the" are about these two ships.) —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 03:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Shukan Shincho → Shūkan Shinchō – Having the macron in the name is the more correct translation of this Japanese magazine name to English. No standard title has been established in English so we should defer to the technically correct translation for the page title. DCsansei (talk) 19:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 21:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe → Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe – WP:NCROY states

    Do not use hypothetical, dissolved or defunct titles, including pretenders (real or hypothetical), unless this is what the majority of reliable sources use.

    German monarchy was abolished in 1919. The "zu" is in the name instead of "of" as names should not be translated. Move request on similar pages for reference. D1551D3N7 (talk) 11:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 17:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Amytis of Babylon → Amytis of Media – This is the common name by which this historical figure is known, per Google Scholar. Antiquistik (talk) 05:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Antiquistik (talk) 12:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 19:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 05:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sarukhan, Bey of Magnesia → Saruhan – Already redirects here. Else, it can be Saruhan Bey or something similar, because this is the only person with the name on Wikipedia if I'm not mistaken. Magnesia is only a settlement, and he and his descendants ruled a region, more than just one town. So, "Magnesia" should definitely be removed in some way. Aintabli (talk) 01:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 05:01, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Edward V of England → Edward V – Background: There was a recent RM which proposed to drop the "of England" from all of the English Edwards, which ended in no consensus. However, the closer explicitly stated a separate nomination limited to Edward IV and Edward V would be more fruitful, and might be the best next step to pursue. This is that discussion. Rationale: per WP:SOVEREIGN, Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed. Given that there are no other Edward IVs/Edward Vs, it is obvious that no disambiguation is needed. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Frederik IX of Denmark → Frederik IX – He's the only monarch with this exact name, so we should move per WP:PRECISE, and the move will make the article title consistent with his daughter and now his grandson, whose name is spelled without the C. Векочел (talk) 01:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Note: A mistake on my part in saying Frederik IX was the only monarch with this name. He is the only king with this exact name. Векочел (talk) 09:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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References

  1. ^ https://www.jisc.ac.uk/about-us/company-and-charity-details
  2. ^ New name, new colours Commercial Motor 16 May 1987 page 20

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