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Stephens City, Virginia

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I've listed this article for peer review because the article in question has received Good Article status and I am intent on taking it to WP:FAC. I spoke with a FAC delegate and she said another Peer Review was necessary (it previously went through one a couple months prior to the GA review). The page received GA status today, May 31, 2010, so the page at present is GA quality and no changes have been made since GA status was given. I am open to any and all requests and hope to hear from a reviewer soon. Thanks. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Review by MuZemike

Just some comments to start off:

Lead

• The paragraphing in the lead is a bit choppy. I'd recommend organizing the lead into two or three fuller paragraphs, though personally I think two should suffice.
• You might get opposed on FAC for that one inline citation in the lead. I would make sure whatever that citation covers is mentioned in the article, and then remove the citation in the lead.

Layout

• Some of the images do squeeze the text a little and make the article's layout messy. Personally, I think File:StephensCity WelcomeSign.JPG could go if absolutely necessary to improve layout because that's not really contributing anything significant to the article.  Done

Images

• Per WP:CAPTION ("Wording" subsection), if the caption is not a complete sentence, then no end-punctuation is used. There are a few that do not follow that. Please double-check and correct if necessary.  Done

Prose/MoS

• The two paragraphs in the "Education" section could probably be combined into one full paragraph.  Done
• Consider combining paragraphs in the "Transportation" and "Religion" sections also. At the very least, merge that one-sentence paragraph at the end of the "Transportation" section into another one, as you will likely get opposed at FAC for having one-sentence paragraphs, not to mention it's not very good prose style to do that (because of the Internet, many people fall into this pitfall).  Done
• One dablink listed on Dablinks  Done
• External links look good, no deadlinks or 301-returning links found.  Done

References

• Some of the sources given should be italicized, which includes newspapers (anything that is originally available in print) such as The Sherando Times, the Northern Virginia Daily, and Sports Illustrated to name a few.  Done
• For your book sources, try and find and locate appropriate ISBNs and OCLC numbers (if available). Since people can click on these links with how the {{citation}} templates are set up, it makes verifying these sources easier, not to mention make them easier to locate.
• Some of your book sources say "pages xx-yy", while others say "pp. xx-yy". For consistency, stick to one way (either written or abbreviated, though the latter is commonly used and preferred).  Done
• Quite a few of the sources from the city itself, apart from the statistics. You might draw opposes at FAC for the lack of secondary sources, to give you a warning. I say "might" because many of the sources meet the "well-researched (1c)" criterion of being an FA, as most government sources are considered high-quality.

Conclusions

That's what I have for right now. I'll take a closer look at the prose and sources when I get a chance. –MuZemike 22:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments/Questions

On "Images" above, I removed most of the punctuation on the images, except for the images of Samuel Hull's Store, the Historic Marker, and the Government office. Those seemed to be full sentences to me. Could you take a look?

On "Layout" above, I can remove the File:StephensCity WelcomeSign.JPG image, but in the "Culture" section, both of those images are talked about in that section, so I am unsure how to move those or if one should be removed. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On "Prose/MoS" above, I think combining the two "Religion" section paragraphs would make things confusing. The first paragraph talks exclusively about the Glenmary study, while the second talks about about churches location in or very near Stephens City. I think combining these would throw the reader off. I did, however, outright remove the line about the railroad in "Transportation" as another editor had previously told me that since the CSX line doesn't make any stops in Stephens City, it wasn't particularly notable. Still working. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On "References" above, I was wondering where one would find the ISDN numbers on some of the books. Also, I can secondary link to the "Northern Virginia Daily" article where it states the new Mayor and Town Council along with the Town of Stephens City's link, if that would be an acceptable secondary reference. At present, the Town Council is one person shy, they should announce the new person before July 1. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the headers and saw the ISBN and OCLC question - one good place to find those is at WorldCat. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question, when I get these ISBN/OCLC links, do I put them in the URL field or is there is field in the {{cite web}} template that allows you to put ISBN/OCLC links. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am pretty sure you want ISBN (for books, not "ISDN") and OCLC data. I would use {{cite book}} which has a field for ISBNs and I think for OCLC too. See the Works cited section of Ganoga Lake for examples of both used. Generally use ISBN if available, but some older books or those from smaller publishers may not have ISBNs but do have OCLCs. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I caught that after I went to search for it and changed it, probably making the edit conflict you experienced (sorry about that). Does the WorldCat website have ISBN and OCLC numbers or just OCLC? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should have both ISBN and OCLC. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. I will work on that here in a couple minutes. Talking to a friend online at the moment. Thanks for your help. :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]