Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 1997 Pacific hurricane season

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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 00:41, 25 January 2009 [1].

Timeline of the 1997 Pacific hurricane season

previous FLC (23:42, 30 December 2008)

I've cleaned up all the issues pointed out in the previous FLC. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

  • Improved from previous FLC, however...
    • The last two paragraphs can be made into 1.
    • Why is there no summary of the list itself, i.e. explaining in prose the names of the storms, which can be the first/last one or the most significant ones.
      • Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand this request. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • FL's at the end or somewhere in the prose have a quick summary of the list itself, like "The first named storm was...." "The final named storm was....", "(Named storm) had the most significant damage" (prose like that)--Truco 00:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Isn't that the same as "The first storm formed on June 1 and the final storm crossed into the western Pacific on December 6, thus ending the season" is? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
            • I think it would sound better if the actual storm names were given.--Truco 01:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The word "central" in "Central Pacific" is capitalized in the timeline, but not in the prose, which is right?
    • Tropical Depression Two-C strengthens into Tropical Storm Oliwa- the Hawaiian name for Oliver. - I think the longer dash is needed here, I'm not sure whether thats the en or emdash, but is the longer of the two
      • It is the em dash. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hurricane Linda strengthens into the second- and final Category 5 hurricane of the season. - I don't believe a dash is needed here
    • Tropical Storm Nora strengthens into seventh hurricane of the season. - add "the" after "into"
    • Hurricane Pauline strengthens into the seventh- and final major hurricane of the season - needs a full stop, and is the dash necessary?--Truco 00:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done with everything else. Thanks for the review! –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL.--TRUCO 15:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "The first storm formed on June 1, and the final storm crossed into the western Pacific on December 6, thus ending the season." First comma doesn't seem necessary and stunts the flow.
  • "There were 24 cyclones in total for both the eastern and central Pacific, including five unnamed tropical depressions." "five"-->5, as comparable quantities should be spelled out the same. Alternatively, you could change 24-->twenty-four.
  • "Of these, 19 were in the east Pacific; eight peaked at tropical storm intensity, while ten reached hurricane status." Same comment here.
  • "two tropical storms formed, in addition to several tropical depressions." Comma not necessary.
  • "A number of storms entered the region from the east." Is there not an exact figure?
  • "With a total of nine tropical cyclones entering or forming there, the 1997 season was the fourth most active in the central Pacific since satellite observations began."-->The 1997 season was the fourth-most active in the central Pacific since satellite observations began; nine tropical cyclones entered or formed in the region during that period. (something like that, the original sentence has redundancies and awkward grammatical structure)
  • "1100 UTC – Hurricane Nora makes it's" Wrong use of "it's". Dabomb87 (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this list can Easily be transformed into a table with the following columns: Day | Hour | Comment/Note; and would look much better too. Nergaal (talk) 21:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this follows the same format as Timeline of the 2007 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2007 Pacific hurricane season, Timeline of the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2006 Pacific hurricane season, Timeline of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2004 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2003 Atlantic hurricane season, etc. So any major change would have to first be discussed at the project talk page. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the use of tables is discourage when there is a better alternative—they are less accessible and are harder to edit. See WP:LISTS. Julian, you forgot some :D : Timeline of the 1994 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season, Timeline of the 1982 Atlantic hurricane season, etc. (gosh, WP:WPTC churns out way too many of these...) Dabomb87 (talk) 22:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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