- Jan Peder Jalland (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
This was a deletion that happened during another era, where the main motivation for AFD'ing it was a depecrated guideline (WP:NFOOTY). GNG/SIGCOV was an issue, but today I believe the actual quality of the sources would have been discussed with more insight than the comments at the time, which seemed superficial to me. Nonetheless, the subject is a football manager whose career has developed significantly since then; he took over Norway U21. Some online sources about his takeover and the start of his tenure (from national outlets this time...) include [1] [2] [3] In addition there are in-depth pieces about his earlier life, somewhat focused around a bout with cancer, written in Norway's two largest newspapers (paywall): [4] [5]. Among others since I can access the paywalled articles, I request that this article be draftified (or userfied) so I can flesh it out. Geschichte (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Recreate it When there are substantial new sources that cause a reasonable editor to think that GNG is now met when it wasn't before, any admin should feel free to restore the deleted version to draftspace of userspace for improvement. As long as you've added the sourcing and made it a different article before mainspacing it, G4 doesn't apply. Of course, trivial changes or marginally improved sourcing may be seen as gaming the system, but it doesn't sound like that applies here. It's been 4+ years and there's more coverage? Go write an awesome encyclopedia article incorporating the new sourcing. WP:TOOSOON is all about this. Jclemens (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy restore to draft. Close was good, but three+ years later we have an established editor requesting it to work on and improve it based on new information before restoring it to mainspace. If needed when moved, can be addressed via another AfD. Star Mississippi 22:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Restore to draft. The original closing was correct, but the situation has changed. No reason to deny the appellant access to the deleted version, preserving attribution. Owen× ☎ 23:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As the deleting admin, I have restored this to Draft:Jan Peder Jalland. In general, unless there's some strong reason to keep the history deleted (i.e. WP:BLP or WP:COPYVIO), restoring a long-ago deleted article to draft so somebody can improve it is a no-brainer. Especially if the reason it was deleted is no longer valid, as appears to be the case here. RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! If no one objects, I believe we can now speedily close this DRV. Owen× ☎ 16:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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