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Category:Musical television specials

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 29#Category:Musical television specials

Category:Assassinated incumbent heads of state

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. No merge was necessary because the sole article was already in Category:Assassinated presidents of the United States. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:50, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose other type Category:Assassinated incumbent heads of state (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary as practically all assassinated heads of state were incumbents. PatGallacher (talk) 19:44, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Then also delete Category:Assassinated former heads of state as WP:NONDEFINING. Just because someone used to be head of state at some point doesn't mean it suddenly is significant if they are assassinated like decades later. They no longer have state power or represent the state anymore. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete sibling too per Nl Leeuw. I tagged both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:National Hockey League over-the-air television broadcasters

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:National Hockey League over-the-air television broadcasters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT. Similar categories have been deleted in the past. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:48, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete While league owned entities like NHL Network are defined by the association, this category is just a list of highest bidders over time. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:High school volleyball competitions in the United States

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article and one redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:38, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now with no objection to recreating if we ever get to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:High school volleyball in Missouri

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 1P. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aminé (rapper) albums

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:23, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match undabbed main article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:53, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, there is also Amine (singer). Marcocapelle (talk) 16:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I see now that this was a unilateral page move which occurred after two separate discussions (both on Talk:Aminé) which both ended in no consensus. Should've checked that before making this request; that's my mistake. However, I think the distinction between the two is clear enough (and both have hatnotes to each other) that I would support that page move anyway. If it would be more appropriate to reopen the conversation on the main page's name then I'm fine with that, but I'm gonna leave this here for now. At the very least, regardless of what the main page should be called, it is currently called Aminé and these categories should match that. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:47, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the name is obviously ambiguous, and we even have Category:Amine (French singer) albums. Oculi (talk) 17:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/Revert Main Article Name I'm usually 100% for following the consensus at the article name (no matter how terrible) but, given the history above that it was renamed against WP:RM, it's the article that is misnamed. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I support this solution as well. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have listed Aminé under technical move requests. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Well now that your move request has gone through, this is withdrawn. Consistency achieved! QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Although I assume something should also be done about Aminé since it still points to Aminé (rapper). Should it be switched to Amine (disambiguation)? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think as a redirect with accent it can stay as is. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      Can't say I much see the point of having it as a redirect to the page if it's too confusing to be the page title itself. Surely, if the term is going to lead there either way then it should just be the page title after all, and a hatnote will suffice for clearing up confusion. And if not that, then it should point to the disambiguation page. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:29, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:High school football in South Carolina

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT 2P. Merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now with no objection to recreating if we ever get to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Note that the merge target was deleted on May 26 per C1. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More specific name, as the category mostly lists countries. Dancing Dollar (let's talk) 12:32, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. COVID-19 pandemic cases does not fit the rename as well as the eponymous category. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic by country should not exist without Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic and there is not sufficient content for the both of them. Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic by country should be deleted, it is currently empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Marcocapelle is quite right, as is often the case. Oculi (talk) 14:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Albanian footballers from North Macedonia

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 29#Category:Albanian footballers from North Macedonia

Category:Mammals and human culture

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Mammals in culture. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While technically other animals might be able have some form of culture, I think its redundant to have "human" in this category. ★Trekker (talk) 10:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bishops of the Eparchy of Ternopil - Zboriv

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bishops of Ternopil–Zboriv. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no need for "Eparchy" (diocese) as this is implicit in the ecclesiastical title. There is no need to disambiguate it from other churches as no other church has a diocese of that exact name. Arguably it could be called "Archbishops" but there is only one - the incumbent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - I should have noticed that. Nom amended. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Uniate archbishops of Polotsk

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To distinguish it from similarly named archbishops in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Parentheses is the usual disambiguator for "type". Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose By definition all uniate stuff is Catholic. So far we also do not have an enwiki equivalent of Bishops of Polotsk (Q7723551) (all of which are Orthodox). Until we do, this seems like a solution looking for a problem. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Solution for a problem that exists @Nederlandse Leeuw: It didn't take me long to find Category:Eastern Orthodox bishops of Polotsk. That too is in the incorrect form. It should be renamed to Category:Bishops of Polotsk (Eastern Orthodox Church). Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Laurel Lodged Oh, then I stand corrected. Then https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q86784234 should probably be merged into https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7723551, and the latter should be renamed. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Would it still be necessary to rename this category though? Isn't "Uniate" clear enough to indicate these bishops were not Orthodox? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes - I think so. See Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church where it is written "However, the term "Uniate" became a term of abuse in writings by Orthodox authors, and fell of out favour among Catholics themselves. The people in this church were referred to by the Catholic hierarchy primarily as Graeci catholici (Greek Catholics) because they used the "Greek" or Byzantine Rite, as well as more specifically Rutheni catholici (Ruthenian Catholics).". So we should avoid a term of abuse where possible. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, I did not know that. Then I stand doubly corrected and will support the nom from now on. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But uhmmmm.... your rename proposal still includes the term "Uniate"... Oh well. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's confusing. At the time, it would have been historically accurate to speak of "Ruthenian Uniate Church", but not now. "Uniate" on its own is much more offensive. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bishops of the Uniate Church of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bishops of the Ruthenian Uniate Church. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Bishops of the Uniate Church of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Bishops of the Ruthenian Uniate Church in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
Nominator's rationale: The church was known as the "Ruthenian Uniate Church". It was in the Commonwealth, not of the Commonwealth. Unlike the Patriarchate of Moscow, it was not a Caesaropapist entity so was not a branch of the state. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reply that's a tough one to answer. You have the Greek Catholic Eparchy of Mukachevo which is in present-day Ukraine but was never part of the Commonwealth. On the other hand, while it is Eastern Catholic, was it ever part of the Ruthenian Uniate Church? There's also the Ruthenian Catholic Archeparchy of Smolensk which for most of its existence was in the Tsardom of Russia. Overall, I'd say leave the commonwealth in the title, even if it's a bit redundant. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK then. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:23, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Oil spills

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one or two articles in each of these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now with no objection to recreating if we ever get to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Merited Coaches of the Soviet Union

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Merited Coaches of the Soviet Union (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Merited Coaches of Ukraine (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Honoured Coaches of Russia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD, receiving this award is not a defining characteristic for most of the category members. Follows similar discussions for Tajikistan and Belarus. S.A. Julio (talk) 05:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Their coaching categories are definitely defining, but this award that was given out liberally for that same work history is redundant and non-defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Firefly (franchise) terminology

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Firefly (franchise). (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems like a somewhat unnecessary WP:SMALLCAT. The main category is not very large as is, and it's weird to characterize these as "terminology" anyway. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mosques in Dadu District

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Dadu District. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Mosques in Dadu District (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category with one article. May need an upmerge. BookishReader (talk) 00:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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