Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Will Major

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will Major

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Autobiography that fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. SK2242 (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Could not find one iota of independent coverage. Keep, move, and clean up based on the addition of new sources by Eagles247. Etzedek24 ^{(I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record)} 05:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: One of the sources is a WP:CIRCULAR, the others are just Apple Music links. No independent articles cited. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 05:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per above. Additionally, a wp:before search using "Willie Foster" return a few unrelated result. Using "Will Major" returns a lot of results unrelated to this person. Checking the history of the page, the page is created by Willmajor1 (talk · contribs), which is a clear wp:COI editing. ~ Ase1este_{charge-parity}^time 06:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Aseleste. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 19:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move article to Willie Foster (American football). Subject passes WP:NGRIDIRON, as he played in the CFL in 2007 per [1]. Also appears to pass WP:GNG from his college football career: "Longtime friends and teammates" from The Record, "Speedy Foster catching on with Scarlet Knights" and "Special-teams success isn't enough for Foster" from The Courier-News. He may not be notable for his music career, but, if the article is kept, his WP:COMMONNAME should be used as the new article title. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep passes WP:NGRIDIRON and I see no reason to make an exception. Moving to another article name may be the right choice but I have no opinion on that at this time.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move, per Eagles247. Meets WP:NGRIDIRON #1. Self-promotional material within the article can be removed at editorial discretion. Ejgreen77 (talk) 07:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and move to Willie Foster (Canadian football) or Willie Foster (American football). He passes NGRIDIRON since he played in the Canadian Football League. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move per above. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 21:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and/or recreate as Willie Foster (American football) If it meets WP:NGRIDIRON criteria, well enough. I won't comment on that as I have no insight. However, the lede identifying his accomplishment in the field of music needs deleted entirely. Fails completely under music notability. This is a vanity page by the subject to promote his aspiring music career. ShelbyMarion (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems to be easier to just move it and clean it up. He undoubtedly meets the football criteria. Etzedek24 ^{(I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record)} 20:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ShelbyMarion: I've rewrote the lead to reflect what he's most notable for. Do you still think the article needs to be deleted only to be recreated under the more appropriate title? Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say whatever it takes to fix it to keep this subject on wikipedia as a football player. If merely rewriting, or moving, or recreate, or whatever the proper terminology is, that's fine. He is not a notable person in music and given the fact there is zero RS references I don't see the need for any acknowledgment of it at all, any more than an article on Tom Brady needs to reference that he likes to play golf in his spare time. The edit history log suggests he created his own page to promote his music. So, yeah, the title needs to change from his rapper name to his football name. And if acknowledgment of his music is necessary at all it is not important enough to be in the lede. In fact, I suppose simply deleting the "discography" section and replacing it with a "personal life", using the exact wording you put in the lede, would fix everything. JMO. ShelbyMarion (talk) 12:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.