Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Group 1965

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The result was no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Group 1965

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Cliff Smith 18:12, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Been unable to find reliable sources on this group. Had a lot of content, but I've removed it as promotional, barely sourced, and closely paraphrased. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I have been able to find this rather interesting analysis of the group. The group has also had exhibitions in Europe funded by the Japan Foundation (a semi-independent branch of the Japanese government) that did have some press coverage (for instance, here and here). I have the feeling more can be found. Michitaro (talk) 12:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, maybe merge The first version was a copy vio (deleted) and last year I tried to find info for this with very little luck. Note that there isn't even a mention of the group in the BLP Oscar Oiwa, a member. Maybe some of the info can be merged into his article, although a redirect doesn't make sense because he is only one member of the group. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 20:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A merge would not make sense since this is a group. Also, my sense of the Japanese art scene is that Makoto Aida is the most famous of these artists. I checked one of the Japanese article databases and found several more articles on them in Tokyojin (a major monthly magazine) (座談会昭和40年会の東京, 23(10)通号258 / 2008.9 /　/ p.120～126), Bijitsu techō (the main art journal in Japan) (Document 昭和40年会in大阪+名古屋ツアー-いったいなにが平成の世を生きる彼らをこんなにも魅力的にしているのか, 52(794) / 2000.10 /　/ p.160～166), and LR (昭和40年会緊急シンポジウム-おまえの何が現代美術(アート)なのか, 通号17 / 2000.1 /　/ p.22～45). The weight of coverage seems to point towards keeping it. Michitaro (talk) 23:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 07:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not seeing any evidence of in-depth third-party coverage to verify notability or justify a self-standing Wikipedia article. --DAJF (talk) 11:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional weak keep. By the looks of it, the magazine mentions look quite promising, but without being able to see them, I can't say whether they are actual coverage or just mentions. But with the large number of mentions, I'll assume that they are indeed about the group and thus, it would be the coverage required to pass WP:N. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Beyond the articles I found above, I found some additional articles in Aera (昭和４０年生まれの展覧会, 1996.7.22 p. 73) and in the Asahi Shinbun (アートの中で過ごす夜　触って寝そべり鑑賞, 2005.11.11, Evening ed. p. 7; タカの絵、対比の妙, morning ed. p. 33). I believe there is enough coverage here to satisfy criterion 3 of WP:ARTIST. Michitaro (talk) 03:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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