Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shikoku Eighty 8 Queen

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The result was per WP:SNOW. Schuym1 (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shikoku Eighty 8 Queen

I can't find any reliable sources for this team. The only source on the article is the official site. The league that the team plays in doesn't have a page, same with the members. Schuym1 (talk) 00:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete completely unsourced and looks to be completely non notable --Banime (talk) 00:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your advice. But Eighty Eights exist in V.challege leage (Japan). The source is V.League Official website.
http://www.vleague.or.jp/prog/team/team.php?mode=pc&kind=outline&season=&league=challenge_w&teamid=w_88queen
I'm not good at writing English, so you may un-believe the article. --Chiba ryo (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But that is not independent of the subject. Schuym1 (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You creating a page for the league wasn't such a good idea because the league appears to be non-notable also. Schuym1 (talk) 13:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. VG ☎ 01:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Can someone clarify something for me: is this a fully professional league? If so, then by WP:ATHLETE a player for this team would be notable, and by extension, the team and the league itself. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:52, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I really don't know. When I searched for sources, all I could find was a bunch of blogs. Schuym1 (talk) 19:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Did you search in Japanese? Sources for second-level leagues (of anything but football) are likely to be only in the country's language. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Just an observation: Arguments for non-notability based on lacking an article is highly dubious when it comes to anything in non-English-speaking countries. Wikipedia has vast holes in its coverage outside the Anglosphere. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Here is what I found: http://www.stjohns.edu/athletics/pr_atl_070518b.stj. Does that count as a fully professional league? Schuym1 (talk) 20:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC) Schuym1 (talk) 20:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, it's in English. Schuym1 (talk) 20:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - If it does, I will withdraw this as WP:SNOW. Schuym1 (talk) 20:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Would a fully-professional league team normally play a college team from another country? Honest question: I don't know enough about volleyball. But color me skeptical. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.