Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selfie Type

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 18:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Selfie Type

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It was introduced at the Consumer Electronics Show 2020 and is expected to be launched in 2020. Never launched. See WP:CRYSTALBALL. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 11:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Technology and Software. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 11:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: coverage by BBC and others establishes notability. Whether it was launched or not is irrelevant. We have many articles for products and projects that never came to fruition, and there's no policy to remove such articles. WP:CRYSTALBALL doesn't apply, as this isn't a prediction, it's a description of a past event or idea, which still exists as a notable idea. Owen× ☎ 15:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC) [reply]
• Merge into Virtual keyboard - changed per discussion below with nom. More than enough sources to support this as a section in the merge target. Owen× ☎ 18:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @OwenX, I should have clarified Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL, I meant that it is very unlikely that there will be more info about this particular product from Samsung in the near future, I just mentioned crystal ball because it is a nice idea to have "an invisible keyboard", but since this particular product didn't launch, we can't predict that there will be another product implementing this idea, thus I think it shouldn't have a standalone article. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 17:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Also, coverage by BBC and others establishes notability. Since the only coverage is about announcement, I believe it is not enough for notability: a burst of coverage (often around product announcements) does not automatically make a product notable per WP:NSOFT. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 17:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I understand your point, and agree that such a burst of coverage does not automatically establish notability, and you are correct that we are unlikely to get additional sources about this concept. My claim is that when you take BBC along with all the other sources, this concept of a product marginally passes our usual threshold of notability.

  That said, in an effort to drive to a consensus here, how would you feel about merging this article to Virtual keyboard? We certainly have more than enough sources here for a section in the target page. Owen× ☎ 17:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @OwenX, I think it's a good idea. I noticed that there is a section "Optical virtual keyboard" which is exactly what Selfie Type was about. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 17:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Excellent. I changed my !vote above. If you revise the nomination, we can speedy close this AfD as withdrawn and carry out the merge as agreed. Owen× ☎ 18:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.