Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saturn Bomberman Fight!!

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Bomberman video games. Does not seem to have much relation to the "first" Saturn Bomberman. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 17:25, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Saturn Bomberman Fight!!

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Contested prod. No reason was given by the contesting editor, so I'll just copy and paste the rationale used in the prod: Fails to meet WP:Notability (games). Article subject was never released in English-speaking countries. Article has no references. Martin IIIa (talk) 17:43, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the linguistic competence to look for Japanese sources, but would point out that "never released in English-speaking countries" is not a valid reason for deletion. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not by itself, but it is exceptionally hard for a product that is never released to meet notability requirements. Foreign language sources are acceptable when no English alternative exists, but if Japanese sources are the only ones available then the subject clearly does not meet notability requirements for the English Wikipedia.--Martin IIIa (talk) 20:12, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The two halves of your second sentence contradict each other. The first is the one that is true. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A lack of language knowledge on editors' parts is not an argument for deletion. The total lack of coverage, however, is. Even searching its native name (which I added to the article) I can't find a single reliable source reviewing it or mentioning it as relevant. All of the refs are dead, as well. Jergling (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Reference links being dead is irrelevant. Per WP:AGF, we assume the sources were valid at the time they were added. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Bomberman video games as a valid search term, as long as the game exists. (Try to redirect before coming to AfD.) No reviews listed at MobyGames → very unlikely that print sourcing/reviews exist, especially in English. czar 19:17, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would Saturn Bomberman be a better redirect target? Not questioning you, just an honest question: I'm not familiar with this game, and the article is pretty bad, so its hard to tell how closely they're connected. Sergecross73 msg me 19:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I like the list better as a target because at least it's mentioned there—whereas the other Saturn game doesn't mention the Fight sequel czar 17:44, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. czar 19:18, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 21:27, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to either List of Bomberman video games or Saturn Bomberman, whichever is determined to be the best target. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.