Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Puff Puff (sexual term)

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Puff Puff (sexual term)

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A sex term for rubbing faces on breasts that came from Dragon Ball manga. However, as far as I can tell this is not a common term, and is mostly just used within the dragon ball comic and other works by Akira Toriyama. It is not a term that has really caught on outside of that. As such, it's really more of an interesting foot-note, something that's more appropriate for a fan wiki.

As for sources, you may notice that only one is about puff puff directly the destructoid article. The other artices are ones where it's just mentions. Thus, the concept itself does not pass GNG for a stand-alone article. The reference and topic can be covered per game or per manga as needed.

As for what to do with the article, I couldn't think of anywhere to redirect it. It's not quite motorboating (and in any case, that concept itself doesn't even have a page). It seems like too much of a tangential footnote to include in breast fetishism or elsewhere. Thus I'm thinking about deletion. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:43, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:43, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep The nominator didn't provide any policy related issues. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 08:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is WP:GNG, which should be obvious from the opening. It has no notability outside as a footnote to the Dragon ball series. The page reads like a page on a dragon ball fan wiki. It's a WP:PERMASTUB since there's nothing else to explain. It's just a simple dictionary explanation for a term found in a few Akira Toriyama works. It's not a term that is meaningful outside of that, and it's not a term adopted by the wider society. Hell, Motorboating doesn't have a page, yet that is WAY more mainstream and noteworthy. I've never heard of anyone in the English speaking world use "puff puff", or anyone in Japan, or even anime/manga outside of Dragon ball.

Now let's look at sources:

Kalata, Kurt. "The History of Dragon Quest". Gamasutra.

It's a page about the game Dragon Quest, but isn't enough to establish notability for the concept.

"The Japanification of Children's Popular Culture: From Godzilla to Miyazaki - Mark I. West - Google Books". Books.google.com. Retrieved 2012-05-07.

Trivial mention, doesn't establish notability.

"Ūron Arawaru!!" ウーロンあらわる!! [Oolong Appears!!]. Weekly Shōnen Jump (in Japanese). Shueisha (4/5). 1985-01-15.

"This is the actual Dragon Ball comic, thus it's a primary source.

Kauz, Andrew (2010-08-21). "The rubbing of breasts on faces in Dragon Quest IX". Destructoid. Retrieved 2011-04-17.

Okay, this is one article. That's a start.

"Encyclopedia of Play in Today's Society - Rodney P. Carlisle - Google Books". Books.google.com. Retrieved 2012-05-07.

Again, another trivial reference.

Conclusion: Does not pass WP:GNG. A single article is not enough for a WP page forever for the end of time. If you want to keep this page, you need to find more sources. Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gimubrc (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hard delete Completly non-notable. I was amazed to see this has been on the site since 2011. I've been a Dragon Ball fan for years and I've never even seen this mentioned in the fandom once.★Trekker (talk) 01:30, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom This so-called parasexual fetish, which essentially amounts to a "dirty old man" stereotype, if it exists at all, is so rare that most women's only train cars in Japan actually allow boarding by elderly men. Whatever one thinks about that, this is essentially Dragon Ball fancruft. I would also encourage the closing admin to issue a warning to Masumrezarock100 for their disruptive comment above. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. There are no sources that satisfy Wikipedia's verifiability requirements. The contested term is largely unknown, possibly a future neologism candidate. -The Gnome (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.