Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Lawwell
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The result was keep. Courcelles 15:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Peter Lawwell
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Is a Chief Executive notable? He isn't an owner or a chairman. EchetusXe 18:07, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment Whether a CEO is notable depends upon what he is CEO of. In American terms, the CEO="Commisioner" of the NFL is notable (and each one of them has a long article here), and so is the president of the National Football League; about half the heads of the Arena Football League have articles; for the various semi-professional leagues, none of them do. . What is this particular league the equivalent to? It would seem to be that if there is an organization where the mere playing in it makes a person notable, then the coach and owner of each team, and the/President/CEO/Commissioner of the league certainly must be notable also. DGG ( talk ) 19:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The article doesn't say that this person is the CEO of a league, just of a team in the league. What this person is CEO of really doesn't matter, though. It's whether xyr life and works have been properly and publicly documented that matters. If that hasn't happened, then whatever this person is a CEO of, a biography cannot be written. Sources like Halliday 2003 are a start, but more than that is needed for a full biography. Uncle G (talk) 02:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Halliday, Stephen (2003-09-26). "Lawwell to help Celtic get down to business". The Scotsman.
- The article doesn't say that this person is the CEO of a league, just of a team in the league. What this person is CEO of really doesn't matter, though. It's whether xyr life and works have been properly and publicly documented that matters. If that hasn't happened, then whatever this person is a CEO of, a biography cannot be written. Sources like Halliday 2003 are a start, but more than that is needed for a full biography. Uncle G (talk) 02:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. There are plenty of CEOs with articles, see Category:Chief executives by nationality, but what is more important is whether this one is notable. A google search suggests he is sufficiently notable to have is job prospects discussed in the media. (e.g. Arsenal shortlist Celtic's Peter Lawwell in search for new chief executive, Lawwell on Arsenal shortlist) There are also articles about him in his current job (e.g. Man with the plan: Peter Lawwell, Sunday Herald, Natasha Woods, Nov 13, 2005 and Celtic almost debt-free thanks to good housekeeping from Peter Lawwell) and the tabloids are even interested in his living arrangements (e.g. Celtic chief Peter Lawwell splashes out £1.5m on new mansion.. with heated driveway). In short, he clearly meets the general notability requirement. Rockpocket 11:09, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - just about passes WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 14:00, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, he has received significant coverage for his work, as noted above. I think there may be a difference here from most UK football clubs in that Celtic are one of the few remaining plcs, with the chairman as more of a figurehead and the chief executive really in charge (like most large public companies in the US or UK). In Celtic's case the present chairman is rather notable anyway (!), but Lawwell is the man in control of the organisation. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 22:30, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - meets WP:GNG Zanoni (talk) 09:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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